Warnings of Future Water Shortages

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: ElGoobero

Several years ago there was an exchange of primary school visits between Portugal and Morocco.

I don't know much about Morocco, but I've watched this music video filmed there and at least this part of Morocco looks really, really dry. (I guess some other countries wouldn't allow her to file her nails while sitting on top of a car driving on 2 wheels, they probably want her to sit in the car and wear a seat belt or something). I feel like I need to go get something to drink when I watch this video:

M.I.A. - "Bad Girls" (Official Video)


I've been interested in the history of why past civilizations have collapsed, and a number of them have collapsed from drought. Some of them were stable civilizations that lasted for maybe 600 years, then suddenly there was a massive drought, so it's a reminder how fragile human civilization can be when water is lacking. It's probably easier for the Earth to sustain say, 5 billion people than say, 10 billion so I hope people wake up someday and realize that. Some have, but most haven't.

In the following list of civilizations that collapsed from drought, Syria is listed and it's claimed that human-made climate change is at least one factor, but I think for the other 9 collapsed civilizations, I don't think the drastic climate changes can be blamed on humans...climate changes...some of these droughts lasted for centuries!

Ten Civilizations or Nations That Collapsed From Drought

Some of these are better known like the Maya civilization collapsing due to drought:

Collapse #4. The Maya civilization of 250 - 900 AD in Mexico. Severe drought killed millions of Maya people due to famine and lack of water, and initiated a cascade of internal collapses that destroyed their civilization at the peak of their cultural development, between 750 - 900 AD.

I lived through the California drought that lasted 376 weeks beginning on December 27, 2011, and ending on March 5th, 2019. We were told things like "you need to use 25% less water than you did last year". I felt penalized because I was already conserving water before the drought started (like watering my lawn less frequently than daily like most people did). Then we were told what days we could water our lawns. As the drought went on, there were some incentives to remove the grass lawn (which was turning brown from lack of water) and replace it with things like rocks and cactus plants which don't need much water. Several of my neighbors did that.

Then the more serious impact was there wasn't enough water to go around for the farmers (there was water, but regulations didn't allow it to be used, to keep minimum water levels for fish populations etc). So when the farmers couldn't get enough water, some farms started shutting down, and food prices started going up since less food was grown in California and had to be imported from elsewhere. The reservoirs were getting lower and lower so I think the impacts could have been more serious had that drought continued. Last year, more desalination plants were approved, but they aren't a full solution as discussed here:

DRIED UP: In California, desalination offers only partial solution to growing drought

The American West is experiencing its driest period in human history, a megadrought that threatens health, agriculture and entire ways of life....

With more than a thousand miles of Pacific Ocean coastline, California appears to have access to a wellspring that other arid states lack. The technology to transform that unlimited sea supply into potable drinking water has existed for decades, through a process called desalination. Yet while two new desalination plants have received approvals in the past couple months, California’s coast isn’t exactly teeming with such facilities.

That’s because the technology, which is both expensive and energy intensive, can leave behind a mammoth-sized footprint on both surrounding communities and marine life, even as it helps quench the thirst of a parched citizenry.

originally posted by: ElGoobero

climate change, pollution, development, etc etc.

I don't know. there's so much alarmist / environmental stuff in the media its hard to take it serious anymore.
I don't doubt people in some places are struggling.
we in the Eastern part of the USA are blessed with plenty of fresh water. It's hard for me to comprehend not having it.

anyone with knowledge of this issue?

there are really three main issues with water. first off you have places like China, where they have easily accessible fresh water. but have severely polluted that water, turning it into poison, and thus "need water". then you have places like Canada and the US, where though we were on the same path, have been working for decades to deal with those pollution issues.

then you have places like desert areas, where water, even underground, can be scarce, especially places like California, where even with the scarce water supply, they have far overused and abused it, so that it is running out. caused by things like far too high a population compared to the amount of water. as well as possibly even worse, insisting on growing crops like nuts, which require massive amounts of water on top of that.

and then you have places like Africa. where there is water available, just not at all easy to get to, as it can be quite deep underground. and the people who live there seemingly incapable, and not just financially, but lack of skills, and sadly even apparently lack of interest in getting to that water. instead just patiently waiting around for Europeans and North Americans, to come and provide them with that water.

in the end in a large part of all three of those issues are in the end caused or at least not at all helped by the people in those places.

as for water in places like North America. we have plenty of water now, but what of the distant(?) future? you see North America, just like pretty much every county, is quite literally been draining into the oceans, ever since the ice age, ice caps melted. and while yes, we do have things like the natural system of evaporation and rain, i am rather sure we don't gain as much water from that rain (especially rain, that evaporated from the oceans, in the interior of the continent). for example we have almost 700,000 gallons of water going over Niagara falls, EVERY SECOND. and all that water (along with even more collected on it's way), is literally all draining into the Atlantic ocean. do we get anywhere even remotely close to that amount of rain, especially rain that came from evaporated ocean water, falling every second? no, in fact most of the rain we do get, in much of the area that feeds the great lakes, comes from the great lakes, and waterways that feed it. (and remember the great lakes/st Lawrence river, are not the only major waterway systems in North America).

and the truth is, the lakes up North are, and have been drying out for hundreds of years, as they have been slowly draining into the ocean. when you are up north you run into a lot of old logging infrastructure. things like log shoots, that are both high and dry, and far back from river and lake beaches. where perhaps within the last hundred or so years, were actually IN the water. in fact as a kid, we did a canoe trip, he had done as a young teen. and the water levels had dropped significantly from when he had done it. including the fact that the had been able to use one log shoot for their canoes, instead of portaging, and that shoot was nowhere even close to the water when we went (it's amazing how long wooden structures can last). on another trip, we did a route that had not been done in over 40 years. in *the old man, who had retired from running the camp (but still lived there in the summer), had been a teenaged leader on that last trip. in fact, the reason the stopped using it was due to safety concerns from the heavy logging in the area. and the trip coming around a bend in the river, just as they blew up a log jam, with no warning. yet when we did that same route only 40 years later, there were many spots that were barely deep enough for a canoe. and you could even see the old logs, and shoreline off like twenty feet from the currant shore, and a few feet higher. as what was once a roaring river, was now only a stream.

heck, even a lake, directly connected to lake Ontario, where my family is from, the water levels have been down about two feet or so, from the level it was when i was a kid, for well over a couple decades now. something that really concerned my grandfather who was raised pretty much on the edge of that lake. (but then again, people have gained a lot of new lakeside land from it).

so while yes, we do have a lot of water now, how, long will that actually be true, and not just us, but the same cycle is happening everywhere, as almost all fresh water on the planet, is draining into the oceans?

a reply to: ArMaP

clean water can be a problem, but it doesn't have to be. i lived in the Philippines, where the "tap water", could be literally dangerous. and while you can build tolerance for it, if you go to another area, it can still make you very sick (a problem whispered to be the result of Japanese war crimes). it's fine to do things like to cook, bath or wash dishes with (although no hot water, except for some inline water heaters for a shower, for those with money), safely, you just can't drink it. but it's not a huge problem, since there are government licenced, water purification businesses, everywhere. and it was reasonably priced (although there are many poor who can not afford it). they would pick up you 20L jugs, then deliver the water to you, for under 50 cents. so while there is a problem, it can be, and is rather easily dealt with.

just like in Africa, where there is a well known water shortage, the shortage of clean, drinkable water is not really true. it the lack of the people being willing and able to access it for themselves. and are completely reliant on people from places like North America and Europe, to come and provide them with that water, time and time again. since when those North Americans and Europeans leave, the people allow the equipment to fall apart and fail, leaving them waiting yet again for those people to come back, and give them water, yet again. it is a never ending cycle.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: HUBE007

You really think all the concentration in the 80's and 90's wasn't just a set up for future campaigns to throw money at invisible and made up problems? Capitan Planet and Al Gore were soooo concerned with the "hole in the ozone layer" and when it disappeared as mysteriously (and might I add NATURALLY) all that talk shifted to "climate change" the next B.S fear porn our "elected" "leaders" milk our paychecks for. It was all part of social programing for the next generation of suckers to fall for.

Please do not continue to fall for this dribble and see the patterns our governments are replaying over and over to no end.

They are currently de-populating the Earth by millions with Covid and its Vaxx, the populations of the world are now shrinking not increasing.

Time to wake up

Well yeah, obviously tens of thousands of scientists have been involved for decades in setting it all up

Meanwhile, the question is: what lies are we being told today that are just a set up in order to raise taxes or reduce population or get guns banned in 2085?

One of the most obvious to me is the "mass shootings" being done through the MK Ultra project.

originally posted by: generik
just like in Africa, where there is a well known water shortage, the shortage of clean, drinkable water is not really true. it the lack of the people being willing and able to access it for themselves. and are completely reliant on people from places like North America and Europe, to come and provide them with that water, time and time again. since when those North Americans and Europeans leave, the people allow the equipment to fall apart and fail, leaving them waiting yet again for those people to come back, and give them water, yet again. it is a never ending cycle.

They let the equipment fall apart, in many cases, because there isn't local knowledge of how to keep it working.

This is one of those problems that need more to be done than just providing the means to get to the water. To keep things working they need either for some of the people that installed the systems to remain there forever, taking care of the system, or create the conditions to allow local people to be technicians and engineers that will be capable of replacing the people that installed the systems, allowing that region to be self-suficient.

It's like that old saying of giving a man a fish or teaching him how to fish.