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The AFP on Twitter is reporting that talks between Xi and Putin are having an effect. Talks of a cease fire and an invite to Zelensky

Meanwhile, the Japanese PM is also on the way to Ukraine.

Japanese PM to Ukraine

Zelensky invites China

Interesting turn of events.

I'm curious to what it looks like on a world stage when peace is negotiated between eastern nations while the west is pushing for more war.

a reply to: JinMI

From your link:

"Japan PM Kishida will meet Ukraine President Zelensky in Kyiv to "convey respect for the courage and perseverance of the Ukrainian people" and emphasise the "unwavering support for Ukraine of Japan and the G7": Japan's foreign ministry"

a reply to: JinMI

When did peace become such an ugly word?

*shakes head*

a reply to: JinMI

Lets hope Russia agrees to withdraw from Eastern Ukraine, and return Crimea.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Well if you want to put it all in here, that's fine.

Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida is en route to Ukraine for a surprise visit after pressure to travel there as this year's host of the Group of Seven summit

originally posted by: Tebus
a reply to: JinMI

Lets hope Russia agrees to withdraw from Eastern Ukraine, and return Crimea.

Let's not talk fantasy and instead focus on reality.

Thanks.

a reply to: JinMI

International ubuntu... just in time for a fake alien invasion by... the United Nations #TR3Bulation drones.
Internet killswitch... click. Oh no, my crypto!

"Peace sells, but who's buying?"

originally posted by: JinMI
Let's not talk fantasy and instead focus on reality.

Thanks.

The reality is if that your neighbor broke into your house you would kill them or pummel them until they left. Not wait for your neighbor and some dude in a completely different neighborhood to figure out what was best for you.

Or I could be wrong.

BS. Putin just got served. Bottom line..by the baddest court on earth with international jurisdiction. He's got nowhere to go unless he wants to escalate..The Hague told that prik they're done screwin around..everything that happens now is people playin catch up..poo poo is done…and all it cost was a whole shipload of death and destruction..gut tells me pooty just got took out behind the barn..or is super fraid he's about to, he knows exactly what they can authorize.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Russia isn't our neighbor.

Ukraine isn't in our neighborhood association.

a reply to: didntasktobeborned

Cool story.

Why isn't the US in the ICC?

originally posted by: JinMI
Russia isn't our neighbor.

Ukraine isn't in our neighborhood association.

We're discussing the premise of your Original Post which was Putin and Xi discussing peace for Ukraine.

But, to your point, if your neighbor broke into your house and the best gun shop around was going to get you some ammo, you'd take it.


Or maybe you wouldn't. Still waiting on how you would handle it.

Cuz we r youngins…and as so many here like to mention we aren't the world police..and I suppose the ICC already has bailiffs.


a reply to: JinMI

a reply to: JinMI

Yes, he does not seem to be there to negotiate a peace as you seem to claim.

That's my only point.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yea, I'm not great with analogies.

Peace for Ukraine, peace for Russia.

Peace for the plebs dying on both sides.

a reply to: JinMI

The analogy I gave was very simple.

What would you do?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

In who's shoes?

Ukraines? Not be a tool for the east or west.
Russia? Not go back on agreements and treaties previously made.
The West? Same as Russia.

DblTrouble

originally posted by: JinMI
Russia? Not go back on agreements and treaties previously made.

So you're saying Russia should not have violated the Budapest Memorandum? Now that they did, what do you do?

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Tebus
a reply to: JinMI

Lets hope Russia agrees to withdraw from Eastern Ukraine, and return Crimea.

Let's not talk fantasy and instead focus on reality.

Thanks.

Unlikely, but we can certainly hope.

From a realistic perspective, the first course of action would be to secure a lasting ceasefire. This will only be achieved by a number of concessions. Ukraine will need to be able to export its agri product and have Russian forces move back to some point in eastern Ukraine that doesnt threaten Ukraines access to the sea.