Tucker Carlson shares bizarre tale of troops dying from UFO encounters

a reply to: Ophiuchus1
'The times they are changing...." In days past, humans considered themselves unique, alone to master the Universe. We assumed that by natural conceit and because we were told that by science, government and religion.

Now we face the truth of some of the mysteries of the universe are reviewed to us directly by the presence of those conveyances we call UFOs. It is a bitter truth long denied by our sciences, governments and religions. Now, those former controls are softening their positions. Why would that be? It can only mean that the visitors are requiring actions from them and down to us individually that not in keeping with what was SOP.

Problems caused by these visitors to our fellow earthlings will vary because the visitors are not just one or a few, but probably into the hundreds and each have their own ways and manners of operation--maybe quite contrary to our ways even if they must operate within certain parameters.

The best proof of the vast variety of visitors is to scan some of the thousands of UFO photographs taken over the decades since 1947. In those images are every shape and configurations that the human mind can imagine. Sure, many are fakes, but the larger collections cannot be totally dismissed. The kind and variety of craft we see is indicative of many, many different species of life are coming to earth. There are other more direct evidence of that being the case, but it is not time to punch humanity with that knowledge. TPTB have their fumbling ways to carry the message and it will be incremental but always lacking because they must appear to remain in control regardless.

While the "greys" are the instigators for most of the typical abduction accounts we know about, there are far more grisly tales that have happened and are not likely to be known about. Livestock mutilations by UFOs, "mutes" have been common for decades if not before. Of course, the thousands (if not far more) human abductions cases are proof of what the visitors are doing to us in the grand scheme of making us reputable galactic members. With the abductions, the visitors, greys or otherwise have no qualms manipulating humans in mind and spirit in various degree to further their selected outcome. In general, the lot of them may benevolent toward our race, but many individuals have paid a steep price for their brethren.

originally posted by: mirageman

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I recall a UFO story just over (or near) the US/Mexico border where several police/military from Mexico were dead at the scene. The vehicle was allegedly recovered by the US military. I believe that was in the 60's.

This, however, sounds like tucker has been nicking bidens gibberish pills....

It's from 1973 if I am thinking of the same case.

The story is highly dubious in my opinion. With very little evidence beyond "a story".

UFO Crash Retrieval Coyame, Mexico : Fact or Fiction?

That is the one I was thinking of. Thank you for finding that. I always thought it was a bit odd, and really nothing but anecdotal evidence. But, then again, a ufo story where first responders died, not the kind of story you want publicized. Or I should say, back then you wouldn't want it publicized. Today, go for the ratings and shake the money tree...

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

We'd never know if this was just another Tuskegee 2.0...


Because your government is not above such things.

Servicemen have approached them and they get traumatic brain injury, or they’re killed,” Carlson said on the podcast. “I’m like, why isn’t this on the front page of the New York Times? I don’t know.”

I haven't heard about any of these, however, the dark side to abductions and UFO encounters you rarely hear or read about are the severe side effects associated with contact or near contact.

Soldiers and their brains while near UFOs, sound like a deterent mechanism, like RAID for bugs, but for humans.

a reply to: Observer19

Your post is reasonable to me overall……

I believe this to be true

Sure, many are fakes, but the larger collections cannot be totally dismissed. The kind and variety of craft we see is indicative of many, many different species of life are coming to earth.

The below is an eye opener……. I can’t reconcile in my mind…that all of these images would be deemed faked, hoaxed, by others.

I can’t prove any or all of these are real…..on the flip side…I can’t prove any or all of these are fake.

My gut tells me some of these got to be real…..

Best UFO Pictures pages

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a reply to: Framesend

This unfortunately reads to me as a more likely MK-Ultra related experiment. Never trust the public “former-CIA” source lol. Alludes to medical records being classified due to Rendelsham-related possibly ongoing activities.

If some guys on a military base start seeing unrealistic things, then you find out the CIA was in any way connected - it is ridiculously more likely that they were a part of some likely drug-induced CIA testing than they experienced something otherworldly.

Bingo. You win the prize.
Certainly, these injuries to people can be the MK Ultra leftovers or back then.
They will like leeches take advantage of this ufo story to foster their own sinister agendas


On the topic in general of the now all of a sudden---dangerous ufos and aliens---I got to say this is interesting because it enforces the---Ufos are dangerous meme---TTSA started out with.

We might want to know what particular event started these IC ufo responders with the idea ufos were a danger.

What about all the decades of there's no threat from them? What events or event justifies this new attitude? Certainly not those Nimitz cowboy hoopin' and hollerin' videos.

Maybe we can expect a lot more stories like this coming out.

The time and place don’t matter. There’s nothing new under the sun, just recycled items to program us through particular insider newspeople.

originally posted by: Arnie123
I haven't heard about any of these, however, the dark side to abductions and UFO encounters you rarely hear or read about are the severe side effects associated with contact or near contact.

Soldiers and their brains while near UFOs, sound like a deterent mechanism, like RAID for bugs, but for humans.

I definitely can’t believe…..that an advanced race of aliens would go to planets thinking every place is cumbaya ….. they would be fools not to bring something for self defense or offense if its to take control..

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Another thing that gets me is why there are no new ufo flaps or recent events.

All we do is go over old events.

What’s up with that?

What story does that tell?

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Perhaps it becomes obvious? that not all aliens and the craft they fly… are alike?

Case in point…..how is it abductees like B&B Hill….or Travis Walton…or Whitley Strieber didn’t suffer from any radiation or brain injuries?

Were they not near operational Crafts before being taken onboard?

I guess they were the lucky ones…….

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ow about the russian? soldiers turned to stone or something?

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Perhaps it becomes obvious? that not all aliens and the craft they fly… are alike?

Case in point…..how is it abductees like B&B Hill….or Travis Walton…or Whitley Strieber didn’t suffer from any radiation or brain injuries?

Were they not near operational Crafts before being taken onboard?

I guess they were the lucky ones…….

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ow about the russian? soldiers turned to stone or something?

You must mean this report……….read what I have highlighted


Sounds like a Sodom and Gomorrah effect…..turning people into pillars (poles) of salt (stone)..

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I'm just going to throw this out there. The U.S. Embassy in Havana Cuba has had multiple report, from staffers, of developing Brain trauma. The trauma is now called "Havana Syndrome."
Here is a still shot of a Tic-Tac object that could be coming from the direction of the US Embassy in Havana.

It is located in the upper middle of the picture.. The video can be found here: ufostalker.com...
This was taken from a balcony in the Casa Vista del Mar Jose Puntilla Polo looking across the Rio Almendares. To the Left and out of the video, is the U.S.Embassy.


This photo is where the UAP was spotted.


Here is another displaying the proximity of the where the UAP was and the US Embassy.


www.google.com...@23.1384542,-82.4100404,2082m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x88cd79d5f1d6817b:0xa 66689f666e933e!8m2!3d23.1458786!4d-82.3876316!16s%2Fm%2F010x6_tq

a reply to: Violater1

From wiki on Havana Syndrome

The Senate Intelligence Committee leadership (chair Mark Warner and vice chair Marco Rubio) said in 2021 that it was working with Burns and the CIA on connection with the investigation, saying, "We have already held fact finding hearings on these debilitating attacks, many of which result in medically confirmed cases of Traumatic Brain Injury, and will do more."

……So as far as I could tell ….there hasn’t been any Havana Syndrome reports resulting in death due to the brain injury.

So as I reflect back to the OP……..Tucker says that he was told by Kit Green (as MM posted as being the Stanford source) that there were resulting deaths from brain-injury due to UAP activity……

I’m interested in the deaths angle to the story…….did Kit Green lie to Tucker? If not…where are those cases of deaths? and more than one case at that……

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There are links to this subject that have been hiding in plain sight.

Remember the failed spook sponsored enterprise that was TTSA?

Not one journalist or even amateur podcaster asked about why these guys were appointed to the advisory board.



They are still there to this day : tothestars.media...

You tell me why an entertainment company needed (and still needs) a counter-biological weapons expert, a brain function expert and a Biomedical Ressearch Attorney involved with Traumatic Research for the Military?

Early on, Garry Nolan (who worked with Kit Green studying anomalous injuries) was also a member of the TTSA advisory board. Kit Green, of course, has a long association with former $cientologist Hal Puthoff, who also still sits on the TTSA board.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

So as I reflect back to the OP……..Tucker says that he was told by Kit Green (as MM posted as being the Stanford source) that there were resulting deaths from brain-injury due to UAP activity……

No Kit Green was not necessarily the source. It is more likely ***Garry Nolan is 'probably' the source, as he is a Professor at Stanford. He also gave a long interview to Tucker Carlson last year.

I’m interested in the deaths angle to the story…….did Kit Green [***] lie to Tucker? If not…where are those cases of deaths? and more than one case at that……

A lot of this is protected by patient confidentiality legislation. But Dr. Green is also on the record saying

Twenty five percent of my patients die within five to seven years of my diagnosis, and I have no idea of how any programs I knew about years ago can do these things”

Source :Kit Green - Phenomenon [Jacobsen]

I will add that Dr. Green responded to questions from Keith Basterfield in 2020...(and specifically if any deaths occurred as a result of exposure at Skinwalker Ranch).

The reference to the fatality rate does not include any persons from the Ranch...but is a different and primarily military population. That earlier group has been discussed somewhat in books as you mentioned, and I have no further insight.

I am attempting to write a clinical case study of several of the more interesting cases, that touch on the issues of "non-lethal" weapons. I am baffled. I am certain that no injuries I have encountered in referred cases...or others for that matter, require paranormal or "off world" technologies to have caused harm.

This conclusion I have reached slowly, over the past 10 years, but it is data driven. Many of my colleagues I respect disagree. No physicians disagree. That is sadly a defeat for me. A forensic physician must seek to discern 'perpetrators' and criminal motive as well as unknown morbidity and mortality and etiology of illness and injury. I have no clue as to perpetrators and motives. But I don't require magic and aliens to characterize the injuries and pathologies."


Source

originally posted by: mirageman

You tell me why an entertainment company needed (and still needs) a counter-biological weapons expert, a brain function expert and a Biomedical Ressearch Attorney involved with Traumatic Research for the Military?

Good question.
....it wasn't to do any real science.

Justice didnt do any real aerospace engineering nor Lue any real MASINT/COINTEL either.

Built an organisation that is structured and staffed almost exactly like a SAP....but then spent all their time doing weird half assed, am. dram. renditions of existing post 1947 USA UFO lore.

I dont like it as a silver bullet theory- but the idea they were copying what they believed to be real (i.e an existing ET WUSAP) seems to explain a lot of expensive people not actually doing anything.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Perhaps it becomes obvious? that not all aliens and the craft they fly… are alike?

Case in point…..how is it abductees like B&B Hill….or Travis Walton…or Whitley Strieber didn’t suffer from any radiation or brain injuries?

Were they not near operational Crafts before being taken onboard?

I guess they were the lucky ones…….

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Or the more obvious answer us don’t believe everything you hear.

originally posted by: mirageman
That story is more than five years old.....

Dr. Christopher ‘Kit’ Green’s Experiencer Group

The Stanford Professor is Garry Nolan.

Yes….I erred to ask if … did Kit Green lie to Tucker…..it should have been did Garry Nolan the Stanford Professor lie to Tucker?

The deaths of service people should be a concern to ARRO … Tucker is correct to state …

“[In] a number of cases, these things have landed on military bases. ... Servicemen have approached them and they get traumatic brain injury, or they’re killed,” Carlson said on the podcast. “I’m like, why isn’t this on the front page of the New York Times? I don’t know.”

Where is the media on the UAP related deaths?

It seems to me that the details or documentation of any deaths and the circumstances surrounding those deaths should be transparent to the public.

Now …..I can’t say if people will panic if they knew UAP’s can kill, or lighter put than that….can cause deaths.

Well…. people like Nolan and or Green should find a way to leak the case files out if they are truly aware of them or possess them…..imo.

Confidentiality is fine up until the cause of deaths becomes a concern for the publics safety. How many deaths will it take?

If it wasn’t for the leaks of LuLu and Mellon…..we wouldn’t be this far along publicly and governmentally…on UAP’s.

Now we need leaks on the physiological aspect of Deaths related to UAP’s.

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One thing Tucker is not about is bull#. If he mentioned it, it is most likely true and we all certainly want to hear more about it.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I read a story from in PA that happenedback in the 1950s or 60s. There was an airbase near Rickett's Glen state park. I've seen it back in the 80s, then it was turned into a youth conservation corps or camp for troubled teens or something. But during WW2 it was a radar station and was picked for being well located and at a high altitude. Anyway, two service men had a missing time event and reported seeing a strange light and UFO. They had ill effects afterwards from whatever happened to thenm.

You know, I’m not an alien, or ufos are a danger person.
I’m not kumbaya as in Greer either, BUT…
It stands to reason that IF they wanted to attack us, they would do it surreptitiously, not necessarily openly.
It always bugged me when people speak so certain ALIENS HAVE NEVER ATTACKED US.
How do you know that?
One above poster mentions the Cuba syndrome, and I think of 911 and many mysteries we can't determine the source of. It is a possibility those are alien attacks.

How do we know that some sinister alien force is NOT behind such unknown events? Im not saying it is the case, but WE DONT KNOW.

And ufologists always say—IF THEY WANTED TO ATTACK US, THEY'D HAVE DONE IT.
Oh really, how do you know that?
Maybe they are taking their time. Maybe they're not like humans who shoot first and ask questions later. Maybe they can afford to ask questions first and shoot later!

All this is hypothetical; I have no opinion, but won't exclude anything cause we just don't know.