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Italy blames Russia’s Wagner group for surge in migrants

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posted on Mar, 15 2023 @ 10:31 PM
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Its much clear that the Italian people during the last election had being duped on the fake empty shallow promises by some far right parties that had being winning locally.

Now Giorgia Meloni after her little visit political stunt photo op moment with zelensky in Ukraine.


The Itlaina gov is accusing Russia of Russia’s Wagner group for surge in migrants? the same Italian goverment that supported the overthrow of Muammar al-Gaddafi by supporting the so called Libyan rebels.

Who are very much of control of Libya with different ideologies.



Italy blames Russia’s Wagner group for surge in migrants




The Italian government has blamed Russia’s Wagner mercenary group for provoking a rise in migration from Africa to Italy.


This far right goverment in Italy isn't even preventing the human traffickers from coming onto shores nor arresting the NGO boats that majority of the NGO all have Euporean Union flags.


From the article.




Italian governmental data shows some 20,000 people have reached Italy so far this year, compared to 6,100 in the same period of 2022.

Considering that 20,000 trafficked had reached Italy this year and last year. It shows the Italian govs whatever the left or far right arent interested into doing anything to stop or arrest the traffickers.


The far right gov claimed that they would be arresting the NGO boats and their crew so far into 2023 none of the promises had come true.



posted on Mar, 15 2023 @ 10:33 PM
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Amusing that the far right goverment of Italy is blaming Russia for the surge in migrants when both the left and right had six years to prevent the human migration from Libya with polices and action.

Instated you have a far right Giorgia Meloni who doesn't care about the Italian people.



posted on Mar, 15 2023 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Leftists are seething, but I have to say Meloni is the best leader Italy has had in a long time. Very nice.



posted on Mar, 15 2023 @ 11:46 PM
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Its much clear that the Italian people during the last election had being duped on the fake empty shallow promises by some far right parties that had being winning locally.


I know, it’s incredibly confusing. There’s a lot of odd occurrences piling up on each other.

There’s a term for it, and it’s called a trend.

The lines between broader left, right, east, west, neutral, former USSR, ect.

It’s almost like a vast majority of the planet thinks it’s kind of messed up the largest country by land mass is trying to grab more. Yet, their populace isn’t exactly in need of room to spread out.

Whatever, what do I know. Hopefully my engagement made sure you got extra borscht or something.



posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 12:34 AM
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Gaddafi told the West that the only thing stopping millions of sub Saharan Africans heading to Europe was him.That didn't stop tosser David Cameron sticking his toffee nose in there aided by Hilary Clinton.
There can only be one answer to why- these politicians want these unskilled,uneducated Africans here.Replacement theory is not some right wing conspiracy,it's reality.
My city has been flooded with these people.
What's with them wearing Crocs? Government issue maybe?If I see one more Croc wearing African I think I will scream.
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posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 01:34 AM
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I am noticing immigration rates are going up here in Australia as well, it is getting tougher finding a place to live these days.

In some ways it does feel like the western nations are under attack. It was these nations that implemented the jab mandates and now dealing with increased migrants.

In someways I can see why the other nations banded together as America continued its empire of war after WW2 ended. It was Hitlers megalomaniac ideas that brought the rest of the world together to shut that down. With the US/NATO alliance too strong to take head on in a fight, other means to weaken these nations have been employed.



posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 02:24 AM
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a reply to: kwakakev

Perhaps you should look into alternate perspectives on WW2 rather then what the history books tell you
History is written by the victors
History is a lie agreed upon
Not advocating for Hitler being a saint either
More saying question what you are being told
Who was the real megalomaniacs in ww2 ?
If the good guys the allies overcome the axis of evil then how did the world get into its current clusterf**K

Does it appear to you that good guys are in charge of the world since WW2 ?



posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 03:27 AM
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originally posted by: Hiram33
If the good guys the allies overcome the axis of evil then how did the world get into its current clusterf**K


Is the world as bad as you think?

More democracy than ever, less conflict, less poverty, less disease, higher life expectancy. I could go on. The world is a better place today than it was yesterday. Clearly, on many levels it is not, e.g. the natural world is suffering, but if you are a child born in Africa it's better, because you did not die as an infant of some preventable disease.

The reasons for the increase in the mass movement of people from poorer parts of the world to the richer is a complex set of variables. To simplify: (1) There are more young people due to population growth, (2) they all have mobile phones or access to communications and networks, (3) they are all have access to transport, (4) they know that on arrival in a rich country there is a good chance they will be allowed to stay. Why stay in some crappy fly-blown place where life is cheap, when you can live as a King in the UK, or the US.

Russia plays on this dynamic. The OP is naive to think that they don't. After all, Russia and their lackey Belarus would ship in migrants and push them through the borders of Poland, the Baltic States and Finland. Because (a) they made money out of it and (b) it was disruptive.



posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 03:33 AM
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a reply to: Hiram33

There is a lot too WW2, if Germany did not take on the UK and Russia at the same time it could of ended differently. Having the USA on D Day helped a lot.

Since those times, America has had the biggest military machine going around the world. Pacific islands, SE Asia, Middle East. Africa, South America. In looking for a motive of why the rest of the world would want to destroy the western nations, its one to consider.

As for who is in charge these days, looks more like the tough guys.



posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: Cutepants

The far right goverment in Italy is no different.
Giorgia Meloni hasn't done anything to prevent nor to arrest the human traffickers the way she promised during the campaign.

This whole human trafficking in Libya had being happening long before the Russian mercenaries appeared.




Prostitution, drugs and booze to be included in Italian GDP


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posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: kwakakev

Whoever it is in charge, the UN promoted the migrants out of Libya until their video on twitter got criticized.

The UN even claimed in the video that these migrants are forgotten and claims that they are future doctors and teachers? whoever wrote that in the video clearly weren't thinking rational.
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posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: glen200376

Whats the majority of the Albanians migrating to UK? why are they fleeing their so called promised land of Kosovo?

Kosovo Albanians flee misery for EU promised land
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posted on Mar, 16 2023 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Your link answers your question.

They are economic migrants.



posted on Mar, 17 2023 @ 02:47 AM
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a reply to: vNex92

The article you first linked to is 8 years old.
The next link is behind a paywall and the third is 11 years old.

Their relevance to the current immigration crisis in Italy and Wagner operations throughout Africa and beyond?



posted on Mar, 17 2023 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn



The article you first linked to is 8 years old.


There are still migrants from Kosovo coming to Western Europe.




Wagner operations throughout Africa and beyond?

The current Italian goverment is a joke. Blaming the Wagner for the current immigration crisis. When considering the far right government in Italy.

Has done nothing agaisnt human traffickers or the so called "NGO boats" that kept coming to Italy.

Despite that the migrant wave was lower last year. It was still occurring.

The Italian gov has done nothing.

Not even a crackdown on the human migrant centers that exist in central Libya.



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