Mexican President Threatens Republicans Calling for US Military to Target Drug Cartel

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned

originally posted by: Metallicus
The cheapest way to end the drug cartels is to legalize the drugs.

…and set up an escort service for all the right reasons. (that's kid rock)
cartels are running so much 'legitimate' business in the states it's nuts.
people working for them and being trafficked by them and don't even know it.
They figured out some time ago that the way they do business would have to evolve..The legalization helps them and the prohibition doesn't hurt them..I used to think legalization would eliminate the black market..guess what..It has made it more profitable for them.
As another poster mentioned I will re iterate..They are dug in, only thing You can do is not support their business by buying into this faux state legalization that does nothing but make the cartels more wealthy..even if you legalize it at the federal level that's gonna help them too…all the states that have voted to legalize could just as easy introduce measures to the opposite and maybe the people have had a good enough taste of what legalization WITH REGULATION brings…confusion, different loopholes, and tech methods becoming better and better for smuggling..maybe the people in those states that voted for legalization are too stoned to vote now..we could flip the script maybe..and UFPs are hovering as we speak..unidentified flying pigs

i rather agree with you about the legalization of drugs not hurting the criminals. in fact, i also used to think legalization would destroy the criminals. then while i was living overseas, they completely legalized marijuana. and has been legal for a few years before i came home last year. now i had been reading articles since it was legalized talking about people still buying from their old dealers, instead of buying "legal" weed from the store. something i thought was being blown out of proportion like the news services like to do, make something out of nothing, to cause controversy. but it turned out i was wrong about all of it. in fact my first friend i met up with after returning home, told me as we were smoking, that he was still buying from the same dealer he had been using for years prior to legalization. and many others like 3 out of five units that smoke it, three buy it from illegal dealers from what they had said, one buys from one of the stores down the street, and the last gets it free from the government to help treat his bipolar issues (a very interesting case on it's own. since he also has CPD and is not supposed to be "smoking" anything, heck even a campfire is bad in that case. they are supposed to send him CBD oil, and candy. but they always seem to substitute marijuana bud every time for the oil or candy, getting the missing later. almost like they are "out of stock" and substituting a "close" match to the missing product.

and trust me, it's not because there are no close stores nearby that they can buy from in most cases. since there are just so many pot shops everywhere, except a few municipalities. in fact, in the under 1 mile between me and the next major street, on one side of the street we have FOUR pot shops. it's crazy, there is one at the corner of the main intersection, then 2 small strip malls without any, then the next strip mall has TWO in it, separated only by a medical supply store, and variety store. then the next (and last) strip mall also has one. i seriously can not go anywhere in the city it seems without seeing at least one pot shop in any even small business/shopping areas. and it's not even about price, since the black market weed, is no cheaper than legal weed. the fact is it seems most of the black market for weed is now about a lack of trust over the legal weed.

Its not truly legal if it is regulated in any way by LE.


In my state the department of health and senior services handles the money. Licensing fees, everything. Its a joke..Only so many business license granted under a lottery supposedly and all of those were already promised out via back door deals before "legalization" even went into effect..like I said, a joke and a breeding ground for new black market activity to grow like ..well, like weed.

It has to be consumed by the medical industry and made just as cheap as aspirin..ALL drugs...


a reply to: generik

originally posted by: lordcomac
Considering we don't have any border enforcement, we might as well just take Mexico and make it a new set of US states.

Right down to the Panama canal.

It would probably cost less than we already pay for the border patrol that isn't allowed to do their job, and once complete we'd have more land, more people, and more control of who comes and goes.

Of course, we would need to fix our own government first, the entire West Coast is a lawless wasteland as it is, begging to be controlled...

Maybe Mexico will take that instead.

I'd rather just build the wall up the left coast to Canada, wall off everything west of I-5. Mexico thinks this land belongs to them anyways so let them have California, Washington, and Oregon.

It's not as if the US military have a great track record as world police and have a long history of backing drug lords and warlords when doing so.

The governors calling for the action are from the States cartels get the majority of their weapons from - often aided by US corruption and paid for with 100s billions in profits from Americans buying drugs from the cartels. Maybe they should be cleaning their own back yard before invading others.

The cartels need to be taken care of but it needs a well thought out mutually agreed policy with major changes in attitude from both countries instead of poorly thought out policy that will only drive cartel and arms dealers profits even higher at the cost of civillians in both countries.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: M5xaz

The only reasons people like MTG are currently pushing this "going to war with the cartels" rhetoric is because of the Americans that were kidnapped after willingly going to an area they were warned against and the fentanyl epidemic that, as we've established, is mainly supplied by Americans coming through legal ports of entry.

So, how does a wall fix either of those things?

From the article in the OP:
"In the wake of the kidnapping of four Americans and the killing of two of them in the border city of Matamoros, Mexico several Republicans in Congress have demanded the United States step up its fight against Mexican drug cartels, even if that means crossing the border to do it."

Some Republicans propose this military invasion of Mexico because of the kidnapping issue.
When Republicans propose a bad idea, I have no problem saying so.

Similarly, you should learn to be less far-left partisan and more pragmatic. Walls do work. Human trafficking/kidnapping is at least as bad an issue as drugs. Preventing MS-13 gangmembers from entering the USA should be a concern to you as well.

I know you don't support a wall because you want no limits on immigration, which economically, no country can support.

a reply to: M5xaz

How does a wall or military presence help people that voluntarily crossed into Mexico and were kidnapped while on Mexican soil?

originally posted by: 727Sky
Wonder if he is also on the take ....

Maybe he doesn't want to die...

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: M5xaz

How does a wall or military presence help people that voluntarily crossed into Mexico and were kidnapped while on Mexican soil?

Can't stop or fix stupid.
If you want to jump in a shark tank, go for it.

A wall will stop MS-13 from crossing over to the US, and will stop human trafficking of all kinds.

some good news

decent bust

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned
I don't remember which Mexican President said it, but it was funny..he said "America wouldn't have a drug problem if Americans didn't do drugs." That was the most poignant thing to ever come from Mexico…besides Ana Gabriel of course..I won't post one of her vids out of spec but if You've never listened, You should..tears may just happen.

And the Mexico wouldn't have a cartels problem if their members didn't breathe air.

originally posted by: iamthevirus

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned
I don't remember which Mexican President said it, but it was funny..he said "America wouldn't have a drug problem if Americans didn't do drugs." That was the most poignant thing to ever come from Mexico…besides Ana Gabriel of course..I won't post one of her vids out of spec but if You've never listened, You should..tears may just happen.

And the USA wouldn't have a cartels problem if their members didn't breathe air.

Doesn't seem to have made the slightest dint in cartels with the decades of siccarios, high death rates, torture, canabalism, killing rivals which are far worse fate than US military could ever inflict. (i.e censored versions/descriptions of 'funky town', 'miss pacman' and 'ghostrider' descriptions are avail on youtube.

If Texas and AZ stopped supplying the cartels with weapons and US cut off funding to cartels then there may be a slight change. The last 50 years proves death is no detterent when $100s billions in profit are the 'reward'.

Doesn't seem to have made the slightest dint in cartels with the decades of siccarios, high death rates, torture, canabalism, killing rivals which are far worse fate than US military could ever inflict. (i.e censored versions/descriptions of 'funky town', 'miss pacman' and 'ghostrider' descriptions are avail on youtube.

If Texas and AZ stopped supplying the cartels with weapons and US cut off funding to cartels then there may be a slight change.

Somebody's paying attention, and sounds like they understand that their description here is just the entrance to the real bad stuff…My suggestion..ignore this quote and carry on with what you've become comfortable with because some things are indeed difficult/impossible to un see..

a reply to: bastion

Ain't nothn' a few John Rambo's can't handle...

I Seen worse stuff than that depicted in movies and video games.

Europeans may trip on it, afterall depicting smoking in a film is horror!

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: bastion

Ain't nothn' a few John Rambo's can't handle...

I Seen worse stuff than that depicted in movies and video games.

Europeans may trip on it, afterall depicting smoking in a film is horror!

Is this for real? Because I promise you Holmes, there's things happening that absolutely are not being portrayed in movies and vidya games..but they are on film..arent they guys..things ..just leave it there…not a contest so elaboration isn't needed..but yr dead wrong..I know the Rambo part was sarcasm, but the rest is puzzling..



All boots in Mexico would do is provide a distraction and cover for the cartels..this Mexican president thinks we r fc*in dumb..

And the people of Mexico love peace, they're not warlike man..they have to stand up as a people, but they can't. They never will I fear, talk about oppression. And our army isn't big enough to do anything but make the bad people richer. facts. What, You think occupying central and South America would be easy? Not the difficulties presented by enemy combatants, they're laughable (but brutal)..bottom line, we go in, things get worse that are already bad for a bunch of fairly innocent people

a reply to: 727Sky

“I would just like to tell them either they change their treatment of Mexico or from today we will start an information campaign in the United States so that all Mexicans, our fellow countrymen, know about this aggression by Republicans against Mexico,” López Obrador said Thursday during a news conference.

WOW! What a scary threat!
/sarc

I say "Bring it!" If there's anything the American People can take, it's more transparency. I want to hear what he's got!

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: bastion

Ain't nothn' a few John Rambo's can't handle...

I Seen worse stuff than that depicted in movies and video games.

Europeans may trip on it, afterall depicting smoking in a film is horror!

Is this for real? Because I promise you Holmes, there's things happening that absolutely are not being portrayed in movies and vidya games..but they are on film..arent they guys..things ..just leave it there…not a contest so elaboration isn't needed..but yr dead wrong..I know the Rambo part was sarcasm, but the rest is puzzling..

All boots in Mexico would do is provide a distraction and cover for the cartels..this Mexican president thinks we r fc*in dumb..

You scared bruh...?

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned

Doesn't seem to have made the slightest dint in cartels with the decades of siccarios, high death rates, torture, canabalism, killing rivals which are far worse fate than US military could ever inflict. (i.e censored versions/descriptions of 'funky town', 'miss pacman' and 'ghostrider' descriptions are avail on youtube.

If Texas and AZ stopped supplying the cartels with weapons and US cut off funding to cartels then there may be a slight change.

Somebody's paying attention, and sounds like they understand that their description here is just the entrance to the real bad stuff…My suggestion..ignore this quote and carry on with what you've become comfortable with because some things are indeed difficult/impossible to un see..

Yup - even the description is stomach churning. Forgot to point out that whatever people do don't watch the originals of them (thank fully haven't myself and all the descriptions are from people who've seen a lot of gore but were scared by seeing those for years.

No idea why the other poster thinks watching a holywood film or playing a video game means they can handle the real world and videos showing real people having all their skin peeled off and face repeatedly set on fire, having their limbs chainsawed off, tongues ripped out etc until they die...no suprise they're hiding behind a keyboard to state such instead of taking on cartels and think Rambo was a real person.

lol..fear..keeps us from having to deal with pain, its a great thing.

don't want to be a minimal poster..soo…yea..Rambo and some booby traps..I got ya
a reply to: iamthevirus

originally posted by: bastion
It's not as if the US military have a great track record as world police and have a long history of backing drug lords and warlords when doing so.

The governors calling for the action are from the States cartels get the majority of their weapons from - often aided by US corruption and paid for with 100s billions in profits from Americans buying drugs from the cartels. Maybe they should be cleaning their own back yard before invading others.

Weak... what is this some kind of double speak?

USA bad boohoo

a reply to: didntasktobeborned

The videos are for them, rampant of course on the uncensored internets in Mexico.

It is to keep them in fear...

Maybe we can produce a video of letting a huge group of migrants in say a few hundred and we all take a train ride to a processing center where they think they're going to get a free phone and a court date. But instead as we march them through the processing center we strip them of their clothes and valuables, further down the line we give them a fee dental exam looking for that precious gold teeth and fillings that the camera slowly pan over to reveal a huge pile of gold teeth on the floor.

Further down the line still... I think you may be able to paint a mental picture of what's going on here as we walk with our migrants to the shower rooms. The clip goes dark for a moment and then a light begins to shine and you realize it is a door at the back of the showers area and when the camera steps outside all you see are huge mounds of ashes in piles stretching for acres off into the distance.