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Manhunt After Worshipper In His 80s Doused In Petrol And Set Alight Outside London Mosque

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posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
Ha ha ha.
You know absolutely nothing of British society and culture.
I absolutely 100% assure you that you wouldn't last 5 minutes over here.



You're damn right I wouldn't last 5 minutes over there, the women would tear me apart... they're not used to seeing a man with a set.

All the geldings in England, I'd rather visit Moscow because I would have to learn Urdu to visit London.

Besides these folks don't look so uptight...
American Journalist Living in Russia...

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posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus


You're damn right I wouldn't last 5 minutes over there, the women would tear me apart...


I suspect they would, but not in the way you seem to be fantasising over.



.... they're not used to seeing a man with a set.


If true then you visiting certainly wouldn't change that would it.



All the geldings in England, I'd rather visit Moscow because I would have to learn Urdu to visit London.


Nothing stopping you.
I'm sure Comrade Putin would be glad to entertain you and respect your rights.
However, I suspect you've never been out of your state let alone visited another country.



posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
I'm sure Comrade Putin would be glad to entertain you and respect your rights.
However, I suspect you've never been out of your state let alone visited another country.


There are literally a hundred videos like the one above, the narrative just isn't working.

Never been off thee shores, there's no need but I have been all over 50% of the USA and in a good few instances twice, from the front range to the east coast... all up and down and the in betweens.

Although I might be more interested in visiting some cool place in England than I would say California lol.



posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus


There are literally a hundred videos like the one above,.....


And I could post literally thousands of videos of Chicago and parts of Washington DC etc and try to portray them as being typical of the USA....but I don't because I don't think it is.



.... the narrative just isn't working.


Clearly it is with you, you are falling for it hook, line and sinker.



Never been off thee shores,....


That doesn't surprise me one little bit.



... there's no need


Ha ha ha....of course not.



posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake

We can leave it like that if you wish, just wondering how you formed the opinion that you gave.



I came to a possible reason because it seems they were both a part of the same Mosque as in you don't just get random people going into a Mosque and pray like you might see in a Church. They also had a long conversation before the attack, so I'm assuming the conversation led to the attack. I also know that Shiites and Sunnis actually hate each other on an extreme level, so once again who knows.



posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Likely assassination.



posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: bastion



Russia is incredily racist with all non-ethnic Russian being forcibly deported or forced to be cannon fodder against Ukraine


Nice fantasies you had written there.




cannon fodder against Ukraine

you seem to be forgetting at the Ukrainian foreign legion? of course you are.


Russia is a nation that also has Islam. Considering the province of Chechnya. The Number of kick box fighters from Russia.

Are mostly Muslim Russian.



posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero



I came to a possible reason because it seems they were both a part of the same Mosque as in you don't just get random people going into a Mosque and pray like you might see in a Church.


Turns out he was rather a random, with other parishioners saying he had not been seen there in a very long time.

Which begs the question through if he was seen before, even very long ago, do they know who he is and could it help the Police apprehend the culprit?



They also had a long conversation before the attack, so I'm assuming the conversation led to the attack.


On that score i tend to agree.



I also know that Shiites and Sunnis actually hate each other on an extreme level, so once again who knows.


Shiites and Sunnis don't attend the same mosques through, same as Catholics and Protestants attend different places of worship.

Who knows indeed, further information is most definitely required, the old fellow might be able to fill in some of the gaps, but as far as i know he has not spoken out or made comment yet as to the attack or as to the topic of the 5-minute conversation.
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posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Attempted murder or at the very least GBH.

However, there are far easier ways to assassinate or murder an 82-year-old pensioner without resorting to attending the mosque and being caught on camera committing the offense.

If it was an assassination attempt, it was a very public one, with the assassin seeming not to have much regard for maintaining anonymity.
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posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Why?

Perhaps like Putin's Novichok assassination in Salisbury?

Let me guess, the FSB agents were just there to see the famous Spire.




posted on Mar, 12 2023 @ 11:25 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: putnam6
this is a particularly heinous act. So heinous it's possible it was revenge for some grievance between the two,


Is it more heinous than if the man stabbed him to death? I don't think he was trying to kill him and was "teaching him a lesson" of some kind. We also do not know the full extent to his burns as in is he out of the hospital right now walking around?


Respectfully Ive been burned on both legs to above my knees with 3rd-degree burns, it's excruciating pain, and physical pain I still deal with 50 years later. While the stab in the arm and the gash taken out of my head lots of blood but, 2 weeks and just a small scar.



posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 12:26 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Yeah I followed all that scatterbrain stuff.

Do all Englishmen hold conversations like that? asking for a friend...

Couldn't you condense that down to a non-multi-quote type of response?

Your country is soooo tiny that anywhere you go you've basically left it.

She could be an ATSer for all we know...
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posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 03:02 AM
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Yeah I followed all that scatterbrain stuff.


What 'scatterbrained stuff'.
Explanation and details, please.



Do all Englishmen hold conversations like that?


Like what?



... asking for a friend...


Boring, cliched and lacking any originality.



Couldn't you condense that down to a non-multi-quote type of response?


Why?
Does answering specific points raised bother you?
Quoting the point one is answering to gives context and allows for a greater understanding of what a person is responding to.
Standard practice.
Pretty obvious to me.

But now that I know it annoys you.....



Your country is soooo tiny that anywhere you go you've basically left it.


So what?
You said 'there's no point' in visiting another country, why not?



posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 06:00 AM
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I was thinking: what if the publicity of it all was the purpose?
Sure you can go lots of ways with that, like 'attention seeker' or sthg other very personal motivation.

But I doubt the victim was randomly picked. They had sthg to talk about, because they did, so that's proven I think.
Which leaves us with several questions about the victim. Who is he? What's their relationship? Was he the reason the suspect was there in the first place?
After all mosques are great meeting places. Who did he meet the other times he was there?

I mean there are a lot of unanswered questions but I think it's highly possible some type of organized crime outfit is sending a message... is the dude found by now?
This guy probably went there, some type of coercion took place, the victim didn't comply and the message is: do as you're told to others of any group the victim might be involved in.
Attendants of that mosque? A certain ethnicity? Family? Small business owners? Who knows...

But I guess it could also be he wasn't aware they'd figure out his face? And it's not a message, just incompetence.



posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

All good questions Peeple that could probably do with being answered.

Totally agree that the old fellow could possibly fill in a lot of the blanks.

Further information on what happened seems to be few and far between.

I can't even seem to find any updates on the man now that he is home or if the person responsible for the attack has been apprehended.


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posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

It's a "stop the boats" redpill...

Does England need these issues?



posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: iamthevirus


Yeah I followed all that scatterbrain stuff.


What 'scatterbrained stuff'.
Explanation and details, please.



Do all Englishmen hold conversations like that?


Like what?



... asking for a friend...


Boring, cliched and lacking any originality.



Couldn't you condense that down to a non-multi-quote type of response?


Why?
Does answering specific points raised bother you?
Quoting the point one is answering to gives context and allows for a greater understanding of what a person is responding to.
Standard practice.
Pretty obvious to me.

But now that I know it annoys you.....



Your country is soooo tiny that anywhere you go you've basically left it.


So what?
You said 'there's no point' in visiting another country, why not?



You're going to make my head explode!

You know you're just trying to command a narrative or skew/change the context when y'all do that.

That's why all Liberal Democrats can't have direct conversations with others, you have to play twister.

/a disorganized mind is a terrible thing to taste
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posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus

Just what is the problem with replying to issues/points you raise in your posts?


You know you're just trying to command a narrative or skew/change the context when y'all do that.


How so?
Explain yourself, please.



That's why all Liberal Democrats can't have direct conversations with others, you have to play twister.


You honestly think I'm a 'Liberal Democrat'?
🤣🤣🤣



/a disorganized mind is a terrible thing to taste


You seem to be the one who is incapable of conducting a multi-faceted reasoned discussion or conversation.
Some may possible say even any sort of reasoned discussion or conversation.



posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Come on. You are an evil Dem. So am I, apparently.

Strongly suggest that you don't feed that one.

Seems to be the general advice on here about certain types.

No names, no pack drill, as me dear old Dad used to say.




posted on Mar, 13 2023 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

You guys are totally blue pilled, whatever the news says that's what y'all go with.

Strange to find that on a conspiracy site that's all.

But at any rate yes I believe you, carpy and andy6 are left-wing liberal democrats judging from my American perspective.

The center is too far left in UK/EU that even those who consider themselves center there is still left-wing to us.



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