Bakhmut about to fall.

a reply to: vNex92

And I thought Russia had to invade because of Nazis?

a reply to: vNex92

I think some people need to research the term "Russian Separatist". Guess what Nationality those fighting a civil war for the last 10+ years are?

a reply to: vNex92

Yes, it was Putin that started this war.

Any comment on the Russian actors fomenting protests in Moldova?


By any chance?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Talking about actors.



If you can pay someone to act like this i wonder what else they'd do for a few $$$

I prefer his new image tbh.

a reply to: WhatItIs

Considering for Russia now this war in Ukraine had become now a battle of its existence and the American polticans in the senate made it clear with their ambitions.

Decolonizing Russia
This group is upset that Russia has intervened in Syria prevented the Jihadist Groups to American Media Rebels from taking over.

Now this group funded by American tax payers dollars they are thinking of turning
Decolonizing Russia as a Moral and Strategic Imperative.

They already made several comments on MSM outlets about mentioning how this war in Ukraine will make sure Russia isn't only defeated on the battlefield in Ukraine.

But erased as a civilization and state.



Russia’s barbaric war on Ukraine—and before that on Syria, Libya


The HelsinkiCommission does indeed believe what US did in Libya was a good done.
What Russia did is not. We Good They bad...


What this Commission on here are talking about is Russia's 1000 years of existence and its provinces which they earned through tribute from the Mongol invasions during their invasion of Europe.

Moscow’s dominion over many indigenous non-Russian nations, and the brutal extent to which the Kremlin has taken to suppress their national self-expression and self-determination.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
You seem obsessed with Putin..

Any comment on the Russian actors fomenting protests in Moldova?

How is that USAID funded georgia protests coming along? it seems they are now actively seeking a regime change..

a reply to: Grenade

Russian Separatists who are Ukrainian/Ethnically Ukrainians and want nothing to do with Kiev's government.

This war started 2013/2014.
With the regime change in Kiev.

a reply to: vNex92

Ain't that the truth.

a reply to: WhatItIs
Few Commanders that were killed Bakhmut were Avoz.

a reply to: Grenade

I see your point. Those two routes appear to be the only supply routes available, and it appears Russian forces are close enough to sever both of them. The area between them appears quite mountainous, so that would deny any overland routes. From that perspective, it certainly looks like Bakhmut is about to fall to Russia. I can't see Ukraine as able to prevent that now; it will have to be retaken if Ukraine wishes to regain control.

Maybe you can help me out here: from my thinking, if control of an area becomes a foregone conclusion, wouldn't it be a better strategic move to retreat to a more defensible position? After all, it's not like Ukraine has unlimited manpower. So what could Ukraine's reasons be for standing their ground in Bakhmut?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: vNex92

If only Ukraine and its Ukrainian polticans that were favored by US Gov actually followed through the Minsk agreements none of this war would had happened.

There were a few reasons it failed, but none were a reason for Russia to invade Ukraine and try to take the whole country, or even be involved at a military level with another country's internal issues.

We also see now a year later all the reason's kind of went up in smoke kind of like the whole Donbas area that Russia has now destroyed on a grand scale, so much for saving Donbas... geez

a reply to: TheRedneck

I think sabotaging the bridges previously utilized for supply suggests exactly that, a controlled fighting withdrawal. You don't blow bridges if you're planning to mount an offensive over them or maintain control.

Ground assaults against such entrenched positions are going to be costly for the Russians and it's good optics for the Ukrainians to be inflicting such losses. However, i'd assume with such heavy fighting Ukraine is currently rotating to alleviate combat fatigue and replace casualties. If the Russians mount attacks from the North and South behind their position and cut them off then that strategy becomes obsolete and the tables turn rapidly.

I haven't looked into the strategic importance of the Area although there doesn't appear to be a major road network other than the ones i've mentioned. Most likely this battle is about the symbolic importance.

Again, I'm just an "arm-chair general" so take it all with a pinch of salt. I've been demolished by my lad at Hearts of Iron enough to know my limitations.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Ukraine shelling Donbas

The people of Donbas have been under fire from their own government long before Russia chambered the howitzers.

A quick look at Google maps will show you Eastern Ukraine in ruins long before Putin rolled over the border.

a reply to: Grenade

Don't forget Putin started this war in 2014, not 2022. Too many people here want to ignore the history to be honest.

a reply to: Cutepants

It takes two to tango.

originally posted by: Grenade

A quick look at Google maps will show you Eastern Ukraine in ruins long before Putin rolled over the border.

Russia sure cleaned up whatever was left standing kind of like so many other places too. It's now a never-ending sea of this below. People make statements like yours, but it is like saying a stolen pack of gum is the same as robbing a bank and killing everyone inside. Yep, stealing in both cases, but holy hell there is a huge difference.

a reply to: Cutepants

I find it interesting to see that the highest proportion of Ukrainian refugees from this war fled to RUSSIA.

Ukrainian Refugees by Country

a reply to: Xtrozero

That's the face of war. Again, i'm not taking sides.



Dresden 1945 after allied bombing

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: TheRedneck
I haven't looked into the strategic importance of the Area although there doesn't appear to be a major road network other than the ones i've mentioned. Most likely this battle is about the symbolic importance.

Zelensky recently said that it would be an open road through the east if Russia captures Bakhmut, or something like that. And a lot of people latched on to that, but I think it was lost in translation and just meant that the road is open if they don't block it at some point. So if not Bakhmut, then they'd be fighting over Kramatorsk, or whatever is the next smaller town in between.

Still, I'm surprised that this has gone on so long. Maybe Ukraine is clinging to it too hard out of pride, or there's something I don't know.