Bakhmut about to fall.

After all the rhetoric about the failing Russians and their massive casualties Bakhmut is about to fall, will NATO intervene, and send in the troops? The analysis suggests that the Ukrainian people might have had enough of Zelensky and his backers. Either way, Russia's war machine is producing precision missiles so fast that they will inevitably overwhelm Ukrainian defenses without intervention,

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so it looks like this war is reaching a critical stage.

a reply to: anonentity

American kids are needed he said, die he said. He can eat a face full of yumchata Chit.

originally posted by: Islandparty
a reply to: anonentity

American kids are needed he said, die he said. He can eat a face full of yumchata Chit.

I wouldnt let my kids join the U.S. Military given the way its currently setup & run, let alone fight for some other land.

a reply to: anonentity

Then why are russia forces halting the push forward atm and why is the boss of Wagner as we speak being cut off from Putin?

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Then why are russia forces halting the push forward

Why isn't Ukraine showing the real casualties from the war? Ukraine isn't allowing the MSM to film the missile attacks in Kiev.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

According to the analyst, it will now be an air war. Missiles primarily.

Based on the time it's taken the elite Wagner neo-Nazi army to take one tiny little town, they should reach the Polish border sometime in the next 1,000 to 1,500 years .....

It's a war. Nobody wins every battle and territory will change hands. The fact that it's taken this long for Bakhmut to fall is more an indictment of Russia's military than anything else.

Let's not forget that the fall of Mariupol was shortly followed by Ukraine's counter offensive that saw Russian forces pushed back across the border in some places.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

not only that. Here is the reality, in order to be on the offensive, you need a army 3X the size of the defending army to take it. This is due to casualites. The fact the Ukrainians have a casualty rate of 1X5 against Russia means they are fiercely defending it, causing massive casualities to Russia. Inevitably, Russia will take it, thats not a question. The question is at what cost. If Ukraine can keep a casualty rate of 1X5 with Russia, that means for Ukraines 250K army, Russia needs 1.5 million to counter it for offensive. Right now, Russia is using tech and they have around 400K army. This is why Russia looks sloppy right now. The tech to army ratio compared to the Ukraine to Russian army ratio is out of alignment. Russia is adjusting, which means that the casualty rate will go down 1X4 or 1X3. This means that the Russian army will be more effective. Now, Ukraine is countering by getting weapons and training from the west, so their goal is to keep that number up, as realistically the more men Russia loses on the offensive means the less they have to defend against a couter offensive by Ukraine. War typically favors the defenders when fighting on there homeland unless exposed to overwhelming superiority. Russia initially had superiority, lost it, trying to get it back. This is a war of attrition, where as long as Ukraine can bleed Russia the war continues. The cost is land. Eventually there will be peace, the question is what it will look like.

Camain

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
Based on the time it's taken the elite Wagner neo-Nazi army to take one tiny little town, they should reach the Polish border sometime in the next 1,000 to 1,500 years .....

Ooh, you can’t mention the FACT that the Wagner group are Neo Nazi, that goes against the narrative. Unfortunately Putin is behaving like the fascist dictator. It will end how it will I guess. I imagine some sort of fudged peace agreement which will be way better than nothing.

a reply to: camain

Yeah. IIRC, Germany took Verdun but it didn't win them the war.

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Zelensky warns of 'open road' through Ukraine's east if Russia captures Bakhmut, as he resists calls to retreat. - March 7, 2023.

"We understand that after Bakhmut they could go further. They could go to Kramatorsk, they could go to Sloviansk, it would be open road for the Russians after Bakhmut to other towns in Ukraine, in the Donetsk direction," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in an exclusive interview from Kyiv. "That's why our guys are standing there."

originally posted by: Islandparty
a reply to: anonentity

American kids are needed he said, die he said. He can eat a face full of yumchata Chit.

Thats not what he said.

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Cool if you dislike Zelensky , totally your opinion , but don't spread lies please.

He was refering to NATO countries that could be at risk should Russia take the Ukraine , then the US would have to send soldiers as part of the NATO agreement. that was all he was refering too.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

yep, I don't think there will be a clear winner. eventually both will run out of steam, or the west will stop sending weapons which will force ukraine to make peace. there are all kinds of dynamics at play here with many different outcomes.

Camain

originally posted by: camain
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

yep, I don't think there will be a clear winner. eventually both will run out of steam, or the west will stop sending weapons which will force ukraine to make peace. there are all kinds of dynamics at play here with many different outcomes.

Camain

war? More a coordinated genocide, eyes on the prize... A new israel? With a lot of wef thrown in. We don't need no stinking slavs!

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It's a war. Nobody wins every battle and territory will change hands. The fact that it's taken this long for Bakhmut to fall is more an indictment of Russia's military than anything else.

Let's not forget that the fall of Mariupol was shortly followed by Ukraine's counter offensive that saw Russian forces pushed back across the border in some places.

Wrong like usual...

Ukraine has been building the defenses of Bakhmut for 8 years it's the linchpin of Ukraine. By many estimates it was one of the most militarily fortified positions on the planet...

And Russia just took it...

You should really get mentally prepared for Ukraine and America by extension and their eventual capitulation to Russia.

a reply to: anonentity

will NATO intervene, and send in the troops?

No.

a reply to: JAY1980

So when the war is still in full swing come the summer you'll admit that you've bought into Russian propaganda?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Then why are russia forces halting the push forward

Why isn't Ukraine showing the real casualties from the war? Ukraine isn't allowing the MSM to film the missile attacks in Kiev.

Why isn't Russia showing it's real casualties from the war?

Your double standards are quite breathtaking.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Then why are russia forces halting the push forward

Why isn't Ukraine showing the real casualties from the war? Ukraine isn't allowing the MSM to film the missile attacks in Kiev.

Are they not?

A simple Google search come up with loads of MSM footage. Like this:


www.cnn.com...

More lies?