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Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty 'outdated or harmful' for lack of 'inclusivity'

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posted on Mar, 7 2023 @ 11:31 PM
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Who bans books? Well, they technically destroy them by changing the entire story into something unrecognizable. So, instead of writing new fairy tales, they must DESTROY all memories of existing fairy tales.

Can anyone explain why they must wipe out children's fairy tales and replace them with their insanity? Oh right, they are not coming for the children are they?

Ladybird Books used sensitivity readers to re-examine its children's fairytales

www.dailymail.co.uk...



Once upon a time... the handsome prince rescued the beautiful princess and they lived happily ever after.

But in 2023, he could be an average-looking bisexual commoner – and they certainly won't live happily ever if he forgets to ask which pronouns she prefers before slaying the dragon.

Ladybird Books has used sensitivity readers to re-examine some of its children's fairytales to check their inclusivity, according to The Sunday Telegraph.

The Penguin-owned publisher's catalogue includes classic tales such as Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty – but the characters and plots have been identified as 'outdated or harmful'.

Industry insiders claim problematic tropes include a lack of diversity among blonde-haired and blue-eyed protagonists.



thepostmillennial.com...



Other problems that happen "at first sight" in the fairytales, according to the sensitivity readers, are the "presumption of gender pronouns." Sensitivity readers recommend "gender-neutral language," such as when a princess first looks upon a prince and not to assume the prince is a man.

The status of princes and princesses themselves were deemed problematic, such as in Snow White, because it "may suggest to children that what is important about these characters is their social rank."

The sensitivity readers also said the fairytales were ageist for often depicting the villains as elderly and that their lack of diversity was a problem, as many princesses were described as "white, and with golden hair and blue eyes."

Industry experts told the Telegraph that these changes are necessary because these works of classic literature "may have a negative influence on children by teaching them to privilege certain values or appearances."

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posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

God forbid kids should read books that even suggest a knight is as moral as a gangbanger.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

FFS I have had about enough of this
What's the future generation going to look like
Gender neutral woke pc transhuman transgender insect eating souless automatons with no independant thought emotion or creativity
A complete inversion of the original blue print
And you know there is only on thing standing in the way of that sort of future and that is us!
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posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 01:35 AM
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Mabel O'Donell,, sowed the seeds of long overdue culutral revisionism when she wrote 'Here We Go' aka 'Janet and John' learn to read book 1 in 1949, published by Ladybird abd used to teach a generation of children to read.

The very first page of the very first book has Janet - a proto feminist archetype - directing John to 'Look John. Look down here. Look down.', John compliantly looks down at a strange dog, a motif for the uncertain future, perhaps.

By page 2 Janet is both holding - cradling perhaps - the dog in her arms and with Johns encouragement, looking to the future.

John points to the sky and an aeroplane saying 'Look Janet. Look up. Look up here' - clearly encouraging Janet to engage the wider world, asking her to reflect on it in her own terms.

The only sop to existing cultural norms was John not wearing a pretty frock. The next edition may correct this.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

If you look at the original Grimm fairy tails, they have quite different endings than what is currently known.
This is just doubling down on a long standing process.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: infolurker




Who bans books? Well, they technically destroy them by changing the entire story into something unrecognizable. So, instead of writing new fairy tales, they must DESTROY all memories of existing fairy tales.


Started way before ladybird and sensitivities was an issue. Books and stories have been altered since before most could read which is where the conundrum lays, oral tradition naturally evolves stories were print is just static until some decides to tweak the text. Personal reasons Vs an agenda? I couldn't care less.

Burn the books and relearn the art of story telling. The kids will appreciate it.

Or just make your own storytime books, printers are really cheap these days and they're not that difficult to operate.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 06:33 AM
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It's the systematic erasure of European folklore and culture. They say whites don't have culture? This is why. They erase it and appropriate it in their image.
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posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 06:54 AM
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Out of date.

Grimm was mentioned. Pick any old story, myth or faery tale and it'll have been retold and changed in someone's cultural image, there's endless discussions on ATS about how religions did this over 1000s of years instead of pointing fingers we might as well just say it's a human phenomenon to appropriate.

It's a bittersweet symphony if you ask me.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 07:04 AM
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I don't think this is anything to fear. It is not new, and almost every old fairy tale was not originally written for children, and almost every culture has it own version of the tales of life lessons.

We are being manipulated to see the evil in everything. Even when we are the ones putting the evil into what we choose to see.

There are a lot of books I have read over the years. Even before audio books I read at least one book a week, sometimes more.

I find books to be the one place where the reader has control of their mind. They read the words, but the minds does the rest.

You can tell a person what you got out of a book, but I think the beauty of reading is that it should be a garden where everyone gets to walk freely and can choose what they want to see and which flowers they want to smell.

Most people think folk that do not see, think, and do, what they believe is the right way, well...... then they are just plain wrong.

We have to stop being so rigid. It is not always about us. Sometimes it is about someone or something else.

We are locking ourselves into a cage of our own making, but we are giving the key to those we don't want to control us.

You can't be free if you are spending all your time helping to lock up everyone you think is different from you. Because as much as we are all the same, we are also all different. It will be just a matter of time before they come for the different in you.

Please, the "you" is a generalization, not a personal attack.

edit on 8-3-2023 by NightSkyeB4Dawn because: Clean up.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 07:16 AM
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What's next - 'Alice In Wonderland' will now become 'Al In Wonderland'?



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
It's the systematic erasure of European folklore and culture. They say whites don't have culture? This is why. They erase it and appropriate it in their image.

And yet Europeans / those of European descent made the majority of inventions which make our modern day life possible.
The continual attempt to take over is horrendous.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: infolurker

If you look at the original Grimm fairy tails, they have quite different endings than what is currently known.
This is just doubling down on a long standing process.



Exactly. The original CInderella story, for example, had each of her step sisters actually take a knife and cut off a portion of their foot to make the glass slipper fit, and the Prince believed them, both times, until the birds alerted him to a trail of blood they were leaving behind them on their way to the palace.

The song we used to sing as little kids, Ring Around the Rosies, is about all the people dying from Small Pox.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
It's the systematic erasure of European folklore and culture. They say whites don't have culture? This is why. They erase it and appropriate it in their image.


And I'm supposed to offer prostration & penance for using chopsticks.

I think some folks could stand to check themselves. The original source material folklore *some of the Disney shiz came from weren't exactly from the Maya or Zulu here.
edit on 3/8/2023 by Nyiah because: * because some dingleberry or another will whine about specifics.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: Hiram33

the future people from South Park



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 11:44 AM
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The "marginalized community" is notorious for writing Fanfiction where they gender swap and create all sorts of torrid love affairs between traditional literary characters.

It's a huge market.

Why are they going after the originals now?

Not enough?



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah

We're talking about changing the entire face of the tale because it looks too European now, not about how the concept of the Witch roasting Hansel and Gretal being too brutal.

How can a European folk tale look too European? Isn't it supposed to?

The truth is they like the story but hate the origin.


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posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 12:28 PM
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Instead of rewriting classic literature the whiners should be writing their own original stories.

But they can't because they're not that creative. Look at Hollywood. Nothing original has come out of there in years.



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: Creep Thumper

Evil can't create; it can only destroy. This is an evil ideology.

There are wonderful, rich folk lores all over the world full of stories to share. Many of those stories feature the ethnic faces they claim they want to see represented. Why not go there?

Why only destroy the stories we grew up with?



posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 01:35 PM
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When they say lack of inclusivity is it because those stories are based off Euporean Mythologies?
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posted on Mar, 8 2023 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

When are they going to outlaw the original stories and just have what they want?

When did people as a culture become so damned sensitive that the written word could cause such harm?

10 years from now when they're burning books, people will wonder how it could ever get that far, and I'll remind them that they allowed it and accepted it at the start.




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