Ukraine is running low on ammo. Europe faces pressure to produce more

So exactly how is Ukraine supposed to go on the offensive when they are already running low on ammo? Please note for the US it on some munitions it will take months or even to get out weapons supplies back to pre-war levels .

IF China wanted to make a move on Taiwan now would be they time to do it.

Ukraine is running low on ammo. Europe faces pressure to produce more.

www.nbcnews.com...

As Ukraine runs low on the ammunition it needs to continue fighting off the Russian invasion and foreign stockpiles grow bare, some of Kyiv’s staunchest backers, including the United States, are putting pressure on European allies to quickly ramp up arms production.

An ambitious proposal made by Estonia and reviewed by NBC News would have Europe increase 155 millimeter artillery shell production by seven times, moving manufacturing capacity from 240,000 to 300,000 shells per year to up to 2.1 million shells annually.

The estimated cost would be nearly $4.25 billion for the joint acquisition effort that would be shared by European Union member states. If fulfilled, Europe would produce Ukraine’s ammunition needs in six months, rather than the four years it would take at current production levels, the proposal says.

Just before giving a blistering speech that denounced Russia at a United Nations Security Council meeting dedicated to the first anniversary of the invasion last week, Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Reinsalu told NBC News that he had discussed the proposal with several of his European counterparts at a dinner in New York City.

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NATO has heaps more ammo, but does it want to go next level with the history of the area?

I wish we had a better idea of how much each country produces at the moment. Serbia is rumored to be selling rockets to Ukraine. But either way this is good, they're showing long-term commitment.

a reply to: putnam6

How much Ammunition does Ukraine need to WIN this war, by driving Russia out of the country?

Are there enough soldiers left?

a reply to: Cutepants

I wish we had a better idea of how much each country produces at the moment.

Do you really want to know? Every nation has a black market, do you want to go into a hornets nest? Some of this trade ain't as bad as others. Could I buy a beer these days without the Mafia?

The general idea of capitalism was each person sort their own part out. Why do you want to know it all? And if you did could you comprehend it?

a reply to: putnam6

Ok, with as much money as we have been dumping into this country, not only should it have enough ammo, but all of its ammo should be made of solid gold.

Stupid money laundering, America Killing operation. That is what this really is

a reply to: kwakakev

Of course. Is it better to just stick my head in the sand? And why couldn't I comprehend it?

a reply to: Cutepants

Good call on the guilt trip. Where is this global economy going? The general idea of a free economy was that people sort there own things out. If no one is getting hurt the economy will do what people want.

Now with all this CBDC and some Orwell big brother watching everything we do, what business is it of theirs?

Well being as the Ukrainian top knobs have filled their offshore accounts with the billions that have been given and they can't get another single dollar in, with the money they have been given to actually but arms AND ammunition. Now they just want ammo. Well that sells just as well on the black market so the lower echelons of the Ukrainian forces can get their grift.

a reply to: kwakakev

The truth will set you free.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: kwakakev

The truth will set you free.

No it wont! It's all according whose "truth" rules the roost.

NATO likely has a large stockpile that could be used if any of the countries would be willing to release the shells.
At the same time there are reports that the Russians are out of ammo and soldiers.

Basically it comes down to who can get supplies rolling first.

a reply to: crayzeed

If don't want to know the truth, then how can you discern which "truth" is true and which is false?

a reply to: putnam6

They should just make Ukraine a "Gun Free" Zone.

Problem?

Solved.

ukraine lost and isn't worth more effort to destroy the whole world.
maybe next time they think twice before they let in cia, soros, shoot at russian citizens and provoke russia by joining nato.
this war started years before 2022.

originally posted by: putnam6
So exactly how is Ukraine supposed to go on the offensive when they are already running low on ammo? Please note for the US it on some munitions it will take months or even to get out weapons supplies back to pre-war levels .

Well, Russia ran out of everything last year (so I was told) and they seem to be doing fine, so...

IF China wanted to make a move on Taiwan now would be they time to do it.

Why would China want to move on Taiwan? It's part of China officially already, there has been a peace there for 70 yrs or so, and it's likely the majority would be happy with a negotiated reintegration anyway.

If the US keeps stirring things up or arming them they might have to move in for their own security. They wont stand for a US client state just off their coast forever. If the US would stay away there would be more chance of peace for all involved.

originally posted by: Cutepants
I wish we had a better idea of how much each country produces at the moment. Serbia is rumored to be selling rockets to Ukraine. But either way this is good, they're showing long-term commitment.

Not sure if I follow, apologizes, do you mean the GDP or an itemized list by country?

At the Wikipedia link below please look at the itemized list by country, yea I know it's Wikipedia but it's pretty well-sourced and it's listed by what's been committed and what is remaining to be shipped

www.ifw-kiel.de...



en.wikipedia.org...

US aid Itemized

Tanks

31 M1 Abrams [To be delivered][427][92]
45 T-72B tanks (manufactured by Excalibur Army, purchase and upgrade financed by USA) [delivered from December 2022 onwards]
Infantry Fighting Vehicles

109 M2A2 ODS Bradleys [To be delivered]
Armoured Personnel Carriers[427][92]

300 M113s [Delivered from July 2022 onwards]
100 Armoured Medical Treatment Vehicles [To be delivered]
250 M1117 ASVs [To be delivered]
90 Strykers [To be delivered]
Command Vehicles[427]

4 Bradley Fire Support Team vehicles [February 2023][92]
Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles[427]

440 International M1224 MaxxPro [Delivered from July or August 2022 onwards][92]
37 Cougars [February 2023][92]
289 Unknown MRAPs [To be delivered. 108 pleadged in January 2023, 181 more pledged in February 2023][92]
Infantry Mobility Vehicles[427]

1800+ HMMWVs [Delivered from April 2022 onwards][92]
100+ Light Tactical Vehicles [To be delivered][92]
Other vehicles[427]

44 trucks and 88 trailers to transport heavy equipment
6 armored utility trucks
100 armored medical treatment vehicles
Towed artillery[427]

142 155mm M777s [Delivered from April 2022 onwards][92]
72 105mm Howitzers [To be delivered][92]
Self-Propelled Artillery[427]

18 155mm M109s [To be delivered] (along with 30 ammunition support vehicles)[92]
Multiple Rocket Launchers[427]

20 227mm HIMARS [June 2022] (further 18 to be delivered)
Surface-To-Air Missile (SAM) Systems[427][92]

8 NASAMS Batteries [Delivered from November 2022 onwards]
2 MIM-23 Hawk firing units [February 2023]
12 AN/TWQ-1 Avengers [Delivered from December 2022 onwards]
1 Patriot Battery [To be delivered]
Missiles

2 AGM-84 Harpoon (Launcher and an unknown number of missiles) [July 2022][92]
Precision-Guided Munitions (PGMs) [July or August 2022] (Fired from MiG-29 and Su-27 fighter aircraft)[92]
AGM-88 HARMs [Delivered from July or August 2022 onwards] (Fired from MiG-29 fighter aircraft)[92]
Laser-Guided Rockets (Believed to be APKWS) [Delivered from April 2022 onwards][92]
Over 1,600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems[427]
Over 8,500 Javelin anti-armor systems.[427]
Over 54,000 other anti-armor systems and munitions.[427]
Over 2,500 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles.[427]
RIM-7 missiles for air defense [To be delivered] (For use by Ukrainian Buk SAM systems).[427][92]
4,000 Zuni aircraft rockets.[427]
Electronic Warfare Equipment[427][92]

Electronic Jamming Equipment [May or June 2022]
Vampire Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems [To be delivered]
Helicopters[427][92]

20 Mi-17V5s (Originally destined for Afghanistan) [Delivered from April 2022 onwards]
Drones[427][92]

100 Switchblade 300 kamikaze drones [April 2022]
10 Switchblade 600 kamikaze drones [To be delivered]
300 Switchblade kamikaze drones of unknown type [Delivered from April 2022 onwards]
1801 Phoenix Ghosts [To be delivered]
RQ-20 Pumas [April 2022]
15 Boeing Insitu ScanEagles [To be delivered]
Jump 20 Reconnaissance UAVs [To be delivered]
Altius-600 Reconnaissance UAVs [To be delivered]
CyberLux K8 Reconnaissance UAVs [To be delivered]
Radars[427][92]

26 AN/TPQ-36 Firefinder Weapon-Locating Radars [Delivered from April 2022 onwards]
4 AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel Air Surveillance Radars [April 2022 onwards; 4 more pledged in February 2023]
4 Counter-Mortar Radar Systems [4 delivered from April 2022 onwards; 20 more pledged in February 2023]
28 Counter-Artillery Radars [To be delivered]
20 Multi-Mission Radars [To be delivered]
Engineering Equipment[427][92]

M58 Mine Clearing Line Charge [Delivered before October 2022]
22 M1089A1P2 and M984A4 HEMTT [Delivered around October 2022]
8 M88A2 Hercules [Delivered around October 2022]
6 Unspecified tactical recovery vehicles [Delivered by February 2023]
Ships And Underwater Vehicles[427][92]

16 Mark VI patrol boats [17 June 2020][428][429]
10 Dauntless Sea Ark Patrol Boats [Delivered from September or October 2022 onwards]
2 Small Unit Riverine Craft (SURC) [To be delivered]
6 40-foot Riverine Patrol Boats [To be delivered]
Unmanned Coastal Defence Vessels (USVs) [To be delivered]
40 Armoured Riverine Boats [To be delivered]
Mortars[427]

30 120mm mortar systems
10 82mm mortar systems
10 60mm mortar systems
Over 13,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
Ammunition[427]

Over 1,000,000 155mm artillery rounds
Over 6,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds
Over 10,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems
100,000 rounds of 125mm tank ammunition
45,000 152mm artillery rounds
20,000 122mm artillery rounds
50,000 122mm GRAD rockets
370,000 105mm artillery rounds
Over 175,000 120mm mortar rounds
545,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition
Over 100,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition
M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions
C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing
Military gear[427]

Over 75,000 sets of body armor and helmets
Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear
Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment
Cold weather gear
Miscellaneous equipment[427]

Obstacle emplacement equipment;
Tactical secure communications systems
Four satellite communications antennas
SATCOM terminals and services
Thousands of night vision devices, surveillance systems, thermal imagery systems, optics, and laser rangefinders
Commercial satellite imagery services
Over 350 generators
Medical supplies to include first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
Field equipment and spare parts
Training

Trained Ukrainian troops since April 2015 as part of JMTG-U (Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine)[430]
Financial aid:

$1 billion loan on 4 March 2014.[431][432][433]
$560 million on 12 May 2017 via the 2017 Consolidated Appropriations Act.[434]
$350 million on 12 December 2017 via the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act.[435]
$200 million on 20 July 2018.[436][437][438]
$200 million on 19 January 2022.[439][440][441]
$13.6 billion in combined military and humanitarian aid for "responding to the situation in Ukraine", via the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2022 on 15 March 2022.[442][443]
8 August 2022 the World bank announced a $4.5 billion grant from the United States government to the Ukrainian government, meant for funding social payments, healthcare services and pensions.[444]

Ukraine will get reloaded with NATO ammo to go on and stalemate Russia on the battlefields (in this 'timeline' )

see, Russia needs to be a world influence so they can 'lead' the Strike-against-Israel, foretold in Ezekiel 38 Prophecy (timeline)

Russia is to lead Iran (presumably bombed out nuke enrichment & bomb making capability) Iraq ArabStates Syria & Others
in a act of retribution for IAF sneak attack on Iran-Persian nuke infrastructures both in country and in Syria & Lebanon


the attack by Russia led forces will be crushed, China annexes Russias' Siberian resources, Damascus gets nuked by Turkey-as-Caliphate coup leadership


theres a bone with meat scraps still on it

a reply to: Quintilian

Yes Russia is running low too, but

Google "China weapons to Russia"




Google the coming war over Taiwan plenty of sources believe it's almost a certainty. Do you have anything to support your opinion except your opinion?



www.dw.com...

China and the US: On collision course for war over Taiwan
Richard Walker
12/29/2022December 29, 2022
China insists it will "reunify" with Taiwan. The people of Taiwan say they don't want that. The US says it would defend Taiwan against attack. As we enter 2023, this three-way tension is approaching the breaking point.

p.dw.com...
"We can only avoid a war by preparing for a war," said Taiwan's president, Tsai Ing-wen, approaching the end of 2022 with a stern message for her people.

"Taiwan needs to strengthen our ability to defend ourselves," Tsai said, announcing that from 2024, compulsory military service would be extended from four months to a full year.

"No one wants war," she said. "But, my fellow countrymen, peace will not fall from the sky."

a reply to: putnam6

I meant how many artillery shells each country produces. Or how many of each type of shell, rocket etc., that would be interesting to know. Or even how many each corporation produces.

www.ifw-kiel.de...

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this, but it's based on the official announcements. Some of it is unannounced or only announced as a package of aid worth a certain sum of money without going into detail.