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Zelensky Wants US Boots on The Ground In Ukraine

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posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: 1947boomer

You really think the western allies won that war? If it hadn't been for Hitler having to defend his eastern front from the Russians, we would be flying the swastika over our capitol today. Russia beat the holy crap out of Germany is the only reason the western allies were able to defeat Germany on the western front.


"According to the Russian historian Boris Vadimovich Sokolov, Lend-Lease had a crucial role in winning the war:

On the whole the following conclusion can be drawn: that without these Western shipments under Lend-Lease the Soviet Union not only would not have been able to win the Great Patriotic War, it would not have been able even to oppose the German invaders, since it could not itself produce sufficient quantities of arms and military equipment or adequate supplies of fuel and ammunition. The Soviet authorities were well aware of this dependency on Lend-Lease. Thus, Stalin told Harry Hopkins [FDR's emissary to Moscow in July 1941] that the U.S.S.R. could not match Germany's might as an occupier of Europe and its resources."

From: Weeks, Albert L. (2004), Russia's Life-Saver: Lend-Lease Aid to the U.S.S.R. in World War II, Lanham, Maryland: Lexington Books.



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: knoxie
More Russian propaganda on ATS. Glad you guys are out in the open now.

So if China supplies weapons to Russia are you guys still OK with that? Are we China supporters now?

😂


Why wouldn't they? If we are sending weapons to Ukraine, how can we say it's bad for China to enter the proxy war to help their ally?



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie

So if China supplies weapons to Russia are you guys still OK with that? Are we China supporters now?



Don't worry...China won't get away with it.

Biden will shoot down some more hobby club balloons.



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 12:39 PM
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Where are the brave ass Brits?
Why aren’t they saving Ukrain?
Where are the brave ass French?
Why aren’t they saving Ukrain?
Where are the brave ass Germans?
Why aren’t they saving Ukrain?


Send YOUR children FIRST!!!



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
Where are the brave ass Brits?
Why aren’t they saving Ukrain?
Where are the brave ass French?
Why aren’t they saving Ukrain?
Where are the brave ass Germans?
Why aren’t they saving Ukrain?


Send YOUR children FIRST!!!


Lets see $115B from EACH of the them to Zelenskyy...just as the US has already done.

That should virtually assure victory for Ukraine.



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT
Those epic cheapskates didn’t even want to pay their fair share for nato.
All hat
No cattle




edit on 1/3/2023 by shooterbrody because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: nugget1

We have had some troops there on temporary duty for years as advisors in a training and NATO integration capacity. Far more civilian contractors than troops though.



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 01:35 PM
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Skidding back to the OP. There's a danger in building a world-view around devious Twitter out-of-context snips that are crafted to get the gullible all riled.

This may help...


CLAIM: A video clip shows Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saying that Americans will have to send their “sons and daughters” to the war in Ukraine.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. Zelenskyy was explaining that if Russia attacked NATO member states, which are U.S. allies, the U.S would likely send troops to protect those countries. He was not suggesting Americans would have to fight in Ukraine.


Fact check



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: 1947boomer

Actually the biggest factor in the defeat of Germany by the Russians in WW2 was the rail roads in Russia having a different width than Europe. Hitler didn't check or plan on that and the lack of railways to re-supply the front lines brought the offensive to a crawl. By the time they adjusted it was too late. Russia had re-built it's army and re-supplied. Not changing the subject to the current conflict.



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 11:31 PM
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I'm tired of this stinking BS! Russia, Russia, Russia! (Spoken in a Jan Brady voice).

If the U.S.A. or any other country is as bad assed as they make themselves seem, they would be using the Ukraine to show off the latest and greatest weaponry to prove once and for all who is the dominant force and baddest MoFo on planet Earth. If anyone is on the top of this heap and is holding the best cards, they better play their hand now and stop holding back.

I am so tired of this crap, they need to get something more than "boots on the ground" in the Ukraine, like some high tech gizmos with some full on stopping power, end of rant.



posted on Mar, 1 2023 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: 19Bones79

Oh #, am I getting demoted?



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 12:48 AM
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a reply to: Cutepants

Only on Call of Duty





posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: 19Bones79

Well that's just a video game



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: Cutepants

Indeed...



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 02:07 AM
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originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: vNex92

Taken out of context, he is talking about the wars been fought in the middle east and ww2 when talking about the american sons and daughters... he is not saying he wants US boots on the ground in Ukraine at all.






Perhaps you can explain the context?



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 02:10 AM
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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
I'm tired of this stinking BS! Russia, Russia, Russia! (Spoken in a Jan Brady voice).

If the U.S.A. or any other country is as bad assed as they make themselves seem, they would be using the Ukraine to show off the latest and greatest weaponry to prove once and for all who is the dominant force and baddest MoFo on planet Earth. If anyone is on the top of this heap and is holding the best cards, they better play their hand now and stop holding back.

I am so tired of this crap, they need to get something more than "boots on the ground" in the Ukraine, like some high tech gizmos with some full on stopping power, end of rant.


I think we both agree its just another training ground for the military that involves live ammunition and lives.



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 02:19 AM
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The Nazi did win the war... The EU is Hitler's vision for Europe.

Do folks really think the globalists came from nowhere like they're a new sect.

All they did was put lipstick on the pig... If you are a leftist and believe in this one-world an one-race utopia ideology you may be a Nazi.

edit on 2-3-2023 by iamthevirus because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: iamthevirus
The Nazi did win the war... The EU is Hitler's vision for Europe.


No, the Nazi's did not win WW2. A Europe that was controlled by Germany was a vision that predated Hitler.



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 03:03 AM
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originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: 1947boomer

You really think the western allies won that war? If it hadn't been for Hitler having to defend his eastern front from the Russians, we would be flying the swastika over our capitol today. Russia beat the holy crap out of Germany is the only reason the western allies were able to defeat Germany on the western front.


Agree completely.


Though the allies fought bravely and without US financial/industrial capacity Hitler would have won regardless.

Truth is without the Soviets the D-Day landings would neither have been possible or even contemplated, and there would be a vastly different Europe to the one we have today.

At any rate the idea that the west had "fighting fascism" as their motivation is extremely naive. This was another war of Empires with wealth and power as the motive. All wars seem to be this, even the so called "religious wars" .



posted on Mar, 2 2023 @ 03:33 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: iamthevirus
The Nazi did win the war... The EU is Hitler's vision for Europe.


No, the Nazi's did not win WW2. A Europe that was controlled by Germany was a vision that predated Hitler.


It's only the blind who can not see it.

The world is very simple, it works like this...

You are an Individualist or you are a Collectivist.

If you want to work toward one world and whatever goals that is to advance us as the human race or whatever you have been sold on then you are a collectivist.

If you want to build that new age pyramid or tower of babel whatever then you are a collectivist.




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