Would you volunteer to leave earth with Aliens?

a reply to: Bob350

Hell of a distance to travel for some takeaway all the same Bob350.

Plus I've got to imagine any civilisation capable of devising the means to cross the vast distances between the stars, and surviving the journey intact, have most likely mastered the ability to feed themselves whatever they please really without having to resort to eating people.

a reply to: andy06shake


They most likely will have mastered the technology to create a replicator. Then they can create whatever they like all they need is any elements with enough atoms to create a chain for whatever they wish to create.

a reply to: LeeMich83

I suppose any aliens that happen to visit may very well be replicators aka Von Neumann probes of some sort.

a reply to: andy06shake

That's a pretty harsh view of humanity. Maybe not to the point of self-hatred, but to the point of self-loathing.

I would say that people are inherently good, but when psychopaths and sociopaths have a tendency to rise to power, their insatiable greed tends to spoil things for the rest of us.

We are getting close to the point where our technology will be capable of restoring transparency to government, making accountability and justice a possibility once more.

a reply to: IndieA

Unfortunately to become a politician it attracts certain personality types, narcissists and sociopaths because they crave power and constant reassurance. It feeds their personality traits. Their are the odd politician who is in it for the good of the people however their path is always blocked by the nasty personality traits as its a party system in the UK and USA. Look at Trump and Biden. Trump is a narcissist and Biden is a sociopath.

a reply to: IndieA

That's a pretty harsh view of humanity.

Yeh recorded history is what it is IndieA.

And the picture it paints is hardly an endorsement of our species by my guesstimation.

Depends how you look at it all the same, good and evil being very human constructs.

Aliens might see our résumé from a somewhat different perspective.

On the subject of people well a person may very well be inherently good, with the best of intentions, but thats what the road to hell is paved with is it not?

And the fact of the matter is that large groups of people don't play well with others.

If in doubt well look at what happened to the indigenous population of America once the Europeans arrived, even the millions of Buffalo got proper fu@k#d never mind the humans already there.

Yeah, tell me everything about how this thing works then take me back to Earth so I can make money off it.

a reply to: eManym

Just spitballing the conundrum.

But i suppose unless the alien craft that takes you on a journey to their world utilizes a method of propulsion that somewhat circumvents the problems that relativity would present.

By the time you get back the people on Earth may have invented most of the technology that the aliens saw fit to bestow.

That's if they have not destroyed themselves or become extinct of course.

a reply to: andy06shake

I expect craft capable of moving across the galaxy should be capable with faster than light travel. I suspect they circumnavigate the rules of relativity by somehow creating a bubble in which the mass inside is protected by either a neutrino shield making the craft pass through everything with no interaction or by creating a bubble of anti-gravity.

a reply to: LeeMich83

That would amount to something along the lines of the Alcubierre drive concept i suppose if it does not involve time dilation.

Which does not so much travel faster than light but achieves travel by contracting space in front of the vehicle and expanding space behind it.

a reply to: andy06shake

I just think to protect a fragile biological body the craft needs to not feel the effects of the motion. To do this I can only see a way of basically creating a temporary mini universe independent of ours so that when vast distances and speeds are achieved neither universe is affected. Think of it as like a bubble in soda rising to the top of your glass.

a reply to: LeeMich83

Pocket universe might be somewhat above our pay grade all the same.

To achieve anything reminiscent of such you would essentially have to replicate the big bang on a miniature scale.

Now if you are doing so in this verse, and it does not stay miniature, in the same to similar manner we speculate the big bang occurred well........there goes reality as we know it, and the rest of the universe ta boot.

It would be like formatting a hard drive, if the hard drive was reality if something goes awry.

a reply to: andy06shake

The thing as humans we forget due to how we have been conditioned is that anything is possible if you fully understand the universe and know how to manipulate it. Science should be focussing on cracking gravity first, once we understand that then our knowledge will absolutely snowball. Looking at the craft we have witnessed on earth they all seem to be able to completely ignore the effect of gravity. This is observed by the change of direction and the speeds they travel. To do so gravity would create a G-Force that would tear a biological entity apart. Therefore the only conclusion is they neutralise the effect of gravity on the craft somehow.

a reply to: andy06shake

Humanity is a relatively young species that still has some evolving, refining, and weeding out to do.

There is hope for us, so we shouldn't just write ourselves off.

a reply to: LeeMich83

Maybe. A whole lot depends on who or what the "Aliens" are.
This question is synonymous to "Would you get into a car with a 'rich' person?"
Gotta trust 'em right? They're wealthy and famous and in the public eye and must therefore be trustworthy, right?

Same connotation, but could have a world of different outcomes depending on the "host".

a reply to: ObsidianCube


Its totally risk vs reward. I personally would go even knowing it might not be a great outcome for me however the chance of discovery is limitless. For me the potential reward outweighs the risk.

originally posted by: LeeMich83
a reply to: ObsidianCube


Its totally risk vs reward. I personally would go even knowing it might not be a great outcome for me however the chance of discovery is limitless. For me the potential reward outweighs the risk.

I see your perspective. I have to ask myself though... If the reward will be null eventually (in case of death)... could it really be considered a reward? Surely in order to enjoy the benefits of reward, one has to be able to experience them somehow?

Unless of course you mean rewards beyond what we consider "death". In which case I certainly can only speculate and dream.

a reply to: ObsidianCube

Just knowing is enough for me. I have always wondered how everything works, what the point of everything is, why are we here, what else is out the and ultimately what happens after death. Just knowing some or all of those elements would be the ultimate reward for me even if I don't really get to do anything with the information. Human kind has always wondered what is beyond our horizon, it is built into our DNA.

originally posted by: LeeMich83
a reply to: ObsidianCube

Just knowing is enough for me. I have always wondered how everything works, what the point of everything is, why are we here, what else is out the and ultimately what happens after death. Just knowing some or all of those elements would be the ultimate reward for me even if I don't really get to do anything with the information. Human kind has always wondered what is beyond our horizon, it is built into our DNA.

I can indeed relate to that sentiment. Even a brief moment of revelation, an answer to our existence, an explanation of the universe, would be worth it. Whether those questions will be answered in that moment or moments following, remains an unknown.

a reply to: IndieA

There is always hope IndieA.

No point in spitting out children if we ever thought otherwise.

But the fact that we seem hell-bent on our own destruction and choose to disregard the lessons we should have learned from history from one generation to the next combined with the level of technology we have attained does not bode well for our continued survival as a race.

At least not in its present condition.

Think it was old Albert Einstein that said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results” well that's humans in spades far as i can establish.