God exists, but not the way most people want it to, or recognize.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

Things get boring when people only tell half of the story.

Enjoy your stay.

a reply to: charlyv

What absolutely astounds me is the number of people who think they know better/more than God.

Even worse? The number of people who gamble away their eternity by not even bothering to research the truth.

Just in case you want a little education? Try even the first 3-4 minutes of the vid.
Or this one...
peace

a reply to: Untun

Your response does not correlate to the fact that we co-create this world through our observation of it.

originally posted by: socialmediaclown
a reply to: Untun

Your response does not correlate to the fact that we co-create this world through our observation of it.

Physicist and mathematician Freeman Dyson explains what is wrong with "the picture of the observer interrupting the course of natural events" (affecting or shaping reality) in the video below when discussing the misconceptions in quantum physics (21:23 - 23:56, keypoints at 22:05, 22:45 and 23:06):

1. "statements about the past cannot in general be made in quantum mechanical language...as a general rule, knowledge about the past can only be expressed in classical terms" (Lawrence Bragg, joint winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1915, mentioned: "everything in the future is a wave, everything in the past is a particle"; which is related to this issue of applying and interpreting QM incorrectly as described at 2:40 in the video)

2. "the role of the observer in QM is not to cause an abrupt reduction of the wave packet with the state of the system jumping discontinuously at the instant when it's observed. The picture of the observer interrupting the course of natural events is unnecessary and misleading. What really happens is that the quantum description of an event ceases to be meaningful as the observer changes the point of reference from before the event to after it. We don't need a human observer to make QM work, all we need is a point of reference, to seperate the past from the future, to seperate what has happened to what may happen, to seperate facts from probabilities."

originally posted by: zerbot565
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we also know God is omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (everywhere), omnipotent (all-powerful)

God is able to see everything and to act anywhere he chooses. (Proverbs 15:3; Hebrews 4:13) However, the Bible does not teach that God is omnipresent​—that is, present everywhere, in all things. Instead, it shows that he is a person and that he resides in a dwelling place.

- God’s form: God is a spirit person. (John 4:​24) He is invisible to humans. (John 1:​18) Visions of God recorded in the Bible consistently portray him as having a distinct location. He is never depicted as existing everywhere.​—Isaiah 6:​1, 2; Revelation 4:​2, 3, 8.

- God’s dwelling place: God resides in the spirit realm, which is distinct from physical creation. Within that realm, God has a “dwelling place in the heavens.” (1 Kings 8:​30) The Bible mentions an occasion when spirit creatures “entered to take their station before Jehovah,”* showing that in a sense, God resides at a specific location.​—Job 1:6.

Fact: God dwells neither on the earth nor elsewhere in the physical universe. (1 Kings 8:​27) 1 Kings 8:27 says: “But will God really dwell on the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens, cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built!”

A slightly more detailed version of these points can be found in my comment in the thread "Who is God to you?"

a reply to: whereislogic

But nobody can show you where He is. The question is "where is everywhere?" when we do not see Him here? Are we nowhere?

originally posted by: charlyv
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This is why I call out hydrogen, the simplest element that created all of the stars. These stars in turn synthesized every other element from hydrogen, and those elements and energies created all molecules and so forth, leading up to the ultimate molecule that can intelligently replicate itself - DNA !!!!!

Have you ever seen some DNA that actually* replicates itself (without intelligent interference)? So without the help of molecular machines (enzymes) made of proteins that are made of amino acids, or intelligent chemists forcing a specific desired reaction, abandoning any attempt at recreating realistic prebiotic conditions and reactions. (DNA is made of nucleotides, not amino acids) Otherwise, it would not be replicating itself. That would be a misnomer then. *: so not simply described that way.

edit: In the words of James Tour, last video, after 29:48: "Because you just throw down self-replication as if it's a phenomenon that just pops up." (spontaneously)

Also, DNA is not RNA. So please, no examples of so-called "RNA self-replication". Not that that subject isn't interesting either, plenty to be said about so-called "RNA self-replication" as well. As there is regarding some of the other steps in the part of your story "leading up to the ultimate molecule that can intelligently replicate itself - DNA". After all, you'll first need some nucleotides (see below starting at 22:55):

"Before nucleotides, Ribose" (quoting the chapter below at 7:09, are those called chapters? See the youtube bar for the video when it's divided into different sections with titles):

And then we can talk about "'small molecules' to RNA - Never Been Shown" (26:58), and so-called "RNA Self-Replication" (35:18):

Also, now that I see what he says about self-replication at 29:26, I realize I should have just focused my response on that (see edit now). So if anyone doesn't feel like watching all the things I've referred to, at least watch that part. For those willing to dig a little deeper*, you can also watch the chapters in between the 2 chapters mentioned above the video, and the summary starting at 48:46.

*: The “understanding heart is one that searches for knowledge”; it is not satisfied with a mere superficial view but seeks to get the full picture. (Pr 15:14)

a reply to: whereislogic

Everything that exists in this world when deduced to its simplest form is pure energy. That energy doesn't translate to sound until it interacts with your eardrum and becomes an electrical impulse in your brain. It doesn't translate to an image until it interacts with your retina and becomes an electrical impulse in your brain. It doesn't translate to odor until it interacts with olfactory neurons in your nose and becomes an electrical impulse in your brain. It doesn't translate to taste until it interacts with your tastebuds and becomes an electrical impulse in your brain. It doesn't translate to touch until it interacts with sensors in your body and becomes electrical impulse in your brain. Everything happens inside your mind.

Through memory, your brain can recreate senses without the need for outside stimuli. You can recollect the smell and taste of an orange without an orange. You can recollect the image of a forest without being in a forest. You can recollect the sound of birds chirping without the birds. You can recollect the feeling of a warm flame without the fire. Everything happens inside your mind.

Your mind is similar to a VR headset. You put on the headset and it transports you to a virtual world. You can see the world and move around in it. Maybe you see something like trees or mountains. If you remove the headset and take it apart, the virtual world is not in the pieces and parts of the headset. The trees and mountains are not in the components of the headset. The mechanisms of the headset generate electrical impulses that recreate the virtual world that your senses translate. Without the headset, this virtual world doesn't exist.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

That makes going out of your mind sound cool.

a reply to: charlyv

So, in other words, ignore Jesus, ignore over 2,000 years of experiences and contact with Elohim/God, only what YOU believe is true. You seem to be claiming to be the Messiah then?

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: charlyv

So, in other words, ignore Jesus, ignore over 2,000 years of experiences and contact with Elohim/God, only what YOU believe is true. You seem to be claiming to be the Messiah then?

Who said Jesus should be ignored. I believe Jesus was a highly enlightened person who only wanted good for the world. My statements about God are much higher level than any words or scriptures and insists that God is within you, as I believe Jesus thought as well.

Just like the chemistry dude - whereislogic, posting all that DNA and RNA stuff, it is a lot of minutia that ignores the real reason that people should believe in God. The details of exactly how that all happens is not required and clouds the issue.

God is the reason anything and everything exists and brought to this current part of our history, out science shows that to be absolutely true.

We do not need to remember ancient numbered verses of human written parables to convince us. In this day and age, just understand that you would not be here, if there was no God. That is really the only message I am trying to get across.

originally posted by: charlyv

We do not need to remember ancient numbered verses of human written parables to convince us. In this day and age, just understand that you would not be here, if there was no God. That is really the only message I am trying to get across.

How did you find this path, and what is it called?

Are you saying that since you found a pass amidst the trees in the forest which leads to the path, that others then who may come after need no such guidance or navigation assistance?

When blind one does not see the world God is invisible in.

a reply to: whereislogic

where is this heaven of heavens ? space ?

a reply to: zerbot565

Heaven: Hebrew, sha·maʹyim; Greek, ou·ra·nosʹ.

The Hebrew sha·maʹyim (always in the plural) seems to have the basic sense of that which is “high” or “lofty.” (Ps. 103:11; Prov. 25:3; Isa. 55:9) The etymology of the Greek word is uncertain.

The full scope of the physical heavens is embraced by the original-language term. The context usually provides sufficient information to determine which area of the physical heavens is meant.

The expression “heavens of the heavens” is considered as referring to the highest heavens, which, since the heavens extend out from the earth in all directions, would embrace the complete extent of the physical heavens, however vast.—Deut. 10:14; Neh. 9:6.

The physical “heavens” extend through earth’s atmosphere and beyond to the regions of outer space with their stellar bodies, “all the army of the heavens”—sun, moon, stars and constellations. (Deut. 4:19; Isa. 13:10; 1 Cor. 15:40, 41; Heb. 11:12) The first verse of the Bible describes the creation of such starry heavens prior to the development of earth for human habitation. (Gen. 1:1)

In case you don't feel like clicking the 2 linked Bible texts before, Deut. 10:14 says (NW): “Look, to Jehovah your God belong the heavens, even the heavens of the heavens,* [Or “the highest heavens.”] and the earth with all that is in it.” Neh. 9:6 says: “You alone are Jehovah; you made the heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens and all their army, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. And you preserve all of them alive, and the army of the heavens are bowing down to you.” Remember that 1 Kings 8:27 also uses the exact same bolded expression.

More details and other usages:

Heaven (Aid to Bible Understanding)
For example:

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SPIRITUAL HEAVENS

The same original-language words used for the physical heavens are also applied to the spiritual heavens. ...

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The spiritual heavens are also the “proper dwelling place” of God’s spirit sons. (Jude 6; Gen. 28:12, 13; Matt. 18:10; 24:36) The expression “army of the heavens,” often applied to the stellar creation, sometimes describes these angelic sons of God. (1 Ki. 22:19; compare Psalm 103:20, 21; Daniel 7:10; Luke 2:13; Revelation 19:14.)

(Ancient) Hebrew has less words than English. Context is very important in the Bible to determin what is meant and how best to render it in English. Or in any other ancient text for that matter.

Just a comment on the idea that consciousness isn't neccessary for observation and measurement of a thing. That may or may not be true but to point to an instrument making observation and the bringing of a thing into actuality as a refutation is sidestepping the issue to an extent. Panpsychism - the idea that in some way consciousness, or it's potential exists in everything is being taken seriously by some physicists now due to materialism being unable to adequately explain how a dead unconscious thing is able to affect and bring about a measurement of reality by acting as the catalyst to alter the superpositional. It's a far out idea but is gaining traction.

originally posted by: fastzombie
Just a comment on the idea that consciousness isn't neccessary for observation and measurement of a thing. That may or may not be true but to point to an instrument making observation and the bringing of a thing into actuality as a refutation is sidestepping the issue to an extent. Panpsychism - the idea that in some way consciousness, or it's potential exists in everything is being taken seriously by some physicists now due to materialism being unable to adequately explain how a dead unconscious thing is able to affect and bring about a measurement of reality by acting as the catalyst to alter the superpositional. It's a far out idea but is gaining traction.

What word descrambler do we use to decode that glossolalia.

Your words have no meaning, are you a struggling AI?

We are in the quantum era. Quantum physics will reveal new information about consciousness and the subatomic realm that will turn classical physics on its head.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

Yet the day will become the night and the night will become the day as usual.

a reply to: Untun

Time is an illusion.