Covid: 3 mrna shots means big trouble?

This man on twitter says that those who took 3 doses of the mrna vaccines could face serious consequences regarding the immune system.
He is talking about a study pubished in a highly regarded magazine (I'm not a specialist - far from that).
He says that if the results from the study would be replicated, we would be in a very dangerous situation (I paraphrase).
But I don't know who this man is and I didn't see the study. Maybe any of you know if this man is believable?

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a reply to: zandra

I don't get your question.

If someone here tells you that this man, for some reason, is not believable... are you going to run to the pharmacy to get 3 doses of a mRNA experimental genetic treatment that turns your body into a spike protein factory?... Which different studies around the world have proven that it increases the possibility of having myocarditis, facial paralysis, among other immune system and nervous system malfunctions?....

a reply to: ltrz2025
It's a simple question. No? Okay then.
I ask the ATS members who are much better informed than me if this man is credible and if they know about the study he is talking about. What I do with the answer? Expand my knowledge. But why do you seem to have a hard time with that?

He first talks about there being a DNA and a MRNA version of shots.
There was the old vector version (Janssen &Janssen or Johnson & Johnson), there was the Oxford AstraZeneca vector with a monkey twist and then there was the Moderna/Pfizer MRNA variant which became the oppressed norm.

Got that?
Carry on...

a reply to: zandra

We live in a world of lies. What is credible?
In this world, you must use your own logic.

Does the government give a crap about your health and life?
Does the government care about your money?
Do they care about your money more than your health?
Does the government care about their own actual lives and their immediate families more than you and yours?

If this 'virus' is so deadly - then why do we not mandate the 'vaccine' for arguably the most important people who are running the country (congress)?

If the virus is as real and deadly as they say it is - then why are our supposed leaders not hiding in a basement and inside a glass bubble? Instead - why do we see them wearing a useless cloth mask - not taking the real shot - and also taking the useless mask off the moment the camera is off???

Why??

Would

You

TRUST

ANY OF THIS?

Its interesting because I would think it was the opposite... that its causing our immunesystem to overreact and attack too much healthy tissue around the infection.

I guess his idea is relatively easy to test. He says the immune system's will to respond.
Well its not going to not respond and the we have elevated levels of leucocytes etc....

If it triggers the system to not fight, then it would hinder the production of antibodies.

If he means the antibodies ability to handle the infection, then its about resistance.

a reply to: zandra
His name is Bret Weinstein.

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: ltrz2025
It's a simple question. No? Okay then.
I ask the ATS members who are much better informed than me if this man is credible and if they know about the study he is talking about. What I do with the answer? Expand my knowledge. But why do you seem to have a hard time with that?

He probably refers to the Nordic study, which showed that having 3 doses increases your chances of having myocardities by 9 times. europepmc.org...

What you didn't get in my message is that, you don't need to be aware of all the scientific studies in the planet. Having common sense is enough. You should not run to get an experimental genetic therapy, in any case or scenario. That's just st*pid.

a reply to: zandra

If you're going to make a thread based on a twit, you should at least find the study discussed in it and provide a link.

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: ltrz2025
It's a simple question. No? Okay then.
I ask the ATS members who are much better informed than me if this man is credible and if they know about the study he is talking about. What I do with the answer? Expand my knowledge. But why do you seem to have a hard time with that?

Yes, Bret Weinstein has a PhD in evolutionary biology and has been an expert on some aspects of the Covid pandemic from the start. Infact, the dark horse podcast with him and Steve Kirsch was one of the major influences for me since the beginning of the pandemic, where the asked why ivermectin and vitamin D were suppressed. They knew it came from a lab almost immeditaley. This was before the vaccine, but after that came out they were immediately skeptical.

a reply to: Itisnowagain
Thank you my friend

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

It was you I was waiting for :-) Thank you

a reply to: Daalder

He talks about Moderna and Pfizer, if you have no common sense, I know I can discuss about that with you (but I wan't).
The more traditional virus based vaccines and the DNA vaccine (as far as I know only in India) are not on his table. You are not a good listener ... But I'm sure you will disagree with that.
I don't like your tone (the least of your worries).
Have a good live and thank you for your reaction.
Meanwhile ... I carry on ...

a reply to: watchitburn

I know, but I couldn't find it. I was hoping for your help.
ps I really did the best I could

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

I have been through this ... I do not trust ... I've noticed the worlwide censorship from the very beginning. To me only that was enough.
To me, it seemed like one person pressed a red button and triggered global censorship. That testifies to an incredibly complex and prepared organization beyond my comprehension. I have my beliefs but they are subject to change because the situation is fluid. As these vaccines came to market way too early the conclusve studies are still a long way off. My first eye opener was the very first time Dr. Dolores Cahill came forward. But I now think she presented it a little too darkly. Of course you never know.

a reply to: ltrz2025

I was going to stop responding to your comments, but you seem like an okay guy.
Contrary to what you think, I should spend a lot more time looking for studies. It's about my children's future. Will they be vaccinated with mrna vaccines? Will they be able to have children? Will they develop anything (you know what) as a long term consequence of those mrna vaccines?
People with three times the knowledge of you and me combined - not that I am underestimating you - are talking about the POSSIBLY of the greatest genocide in human history. And you come to tell me that I can't spend fifteen minutes a day looking for new studies? Okay, today I spent some time responding to your -and other- post. But this was really the first time and a big exception.
ps sorry I thought you were daalder ... after reading your post I have the feeling you must be a better guy than he is :-)

a reply to: zandra

I always try to be the best person I can be and I try to treat others the way I want them to treat me, with honesty, truth and light. You can, definitely, look to scientific papers minutes or hours of the day, no issue there. What I was telling you is that common sense should be enough for you. In fact, being fully honest and respecftul, the fact that you even consider jabbing your children with this thing (which is not a vaccine), means that you are lacking common sense already, and no scientific study will help that.

I know, you are probably angry right now becuase you probably feel that someone insulted you over the internet and we all know how "bad" that is. I get it. But no, I'm literally trying to tell you that you should really think this through and that there is NO WAY that you could actually consider the possibility of jabbing your children with everything that happened. Just the fact that the governments have tried to force or blackmail everyone to take this experimental sh*t should be enough red flag for you to stop yourself from doing that. The fact that you are looking everyday for "scientific research" already tells you how EXPERIMENTAL this thing is. Are you really considering turning your children into an EXPERIMENT?... Where is the common sense in that?

Plus, in Rational-land, people know that drugs can have adverse reactions to medications up to 20 years, that's why usually the "normal vaccine" development and research takes more than 15 years to make. So, you can read all you want for the next 10 years and STILL you wouldn't be able to tell the adverse reactions to this experiment.

Again, you are lacking common sense, as a person and a father. This was obvious right from your initial question and I made you aware of it. Sorry for that, now yes, be angry and respond.

Much love and I hope the best for your kids.

a reply to: ltrz2025

I really like your style

a reply to: Terpene

Much love

a reply to: zandra

I didn't know there was a DNA version untill I looked it up.
I did know it was about the MRNA Pfizer Moderna.
Sorry about that. My bad indeed.
Pfizer did warn about the possible effect in the immune system though in their prescription.

Maybe this helps?
www.science.org...