Henry Gruver visions - Chinese and Russians invasion of USA and England

A prophet and man of God who had visions concerning WWIII.

I found the original complete vision within the internet archive pages (1986) because many have attempted to include themselves within his vision or have cut his vision to control public fear. Others attempting fame and fortune from Henry Gruver's visions.

Currently England is considering to give the Ukraine jet fighters and Putin warned the UK if they do this....there will be severe consequences. USA has approved sending 30 M1A2 tanks (M1 tanks are phazed out and replaced with the M!A2 120mm) to Ukraine and allegedly also discussing giving Ukraine F18's jets.

This could start WWIII...this year 2023 as Nostradamus predicted.

You will find three small videos which play automatically.

Judge for yourself:

archive.org... struction+of+America+and+England.mp4

a reply to: DeathSlayer

I hate to say it, but guys like him fantasize about stuff like this.

He was fantasizing about being SO special to God that God would choose him, above all other faithful, to give an apocalyptic vision to. Congratulations, you're now a chosen one as special as the prophets in the Bible.

Moving forward, in his video he says in his vision that he saw nuclear explosions in the major cities of the east and west coast. He names New York, Seattle, Miami, Los Angeles, etc. In a nuclear war, these would not be primary targets to hit at first.

It would be military targets like the most important bases, the bases that have nuclear weapons silos, they'd want to negate our military first. As for murdering millions of innocent people in the big cities, who knows, but these would not be the first targets to get hit.

If you're praying for rain, you're going to dream about it, if you can understand my analogy. But armageddon is good for Christians, they get to go to heaven via rapture or a quick death with absolutely no fear or pain because they'd know that this is it, time to live forever in paradise.

I'm not saying that I'm not a Christian as you might assume from my critical reply. I'm saying that guys like this are a dime a dozen and this is called doom porn.

That is your opinion which I accept.

Do you also think Nostradamus is also wrong?

He also prophecized WWIII in 2023?

a reply to: Thrumbo

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Hmnmm...

The Russians have about zero capability logistically of invading England let alone the United States unless the rest of the EU stood against us. Same with China.

China "would have to" highjack ever commercial freighter and tanker in the supply chain to achieve that.

The Anglo-American powers show hesitancy in supporting Ukraine, the Poles are more than willing to pull their chestnuts out of the fire.

Where did Nostradamus predict ww3 in 2023? There's only one instance where Nostradamus gave a specific year (1999) in his quatrains.

originally posted by: Thrumbo
He was fantasizing about being SO special to God that God would choose him, above all other faithful, to give an apocalyptic vision to. Congratulations, you're now a chosen one as special as the prophets in the Bible.

Well said. No god-sent man bears self-witness, even Pharisees in the gospel narratives knew this. When a seer's ego and sentiment comes into play, the prediction loses its accuracy.

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Moving forward, in his video he says in his vision that he saw nuclear explosions in the major cities of the east and west coast. He names New York, Seattle, Miami, Los Angeles, etc. In a nuclear war, these would not be primary targets to hit at first.

No, but they are symbols of economic power, ideal targets for reprisals from terrorists or enemy countries. 9/11 represents an escalation which has yet to be culminated (comparable to Charlie Hebdo), refer to the 1993 & 1997 incidents prior, and since then, most attacks have been staged by radical Islamists.

The Austrian seer from Waldviertel (discounting Gottfried von Werdenberg, whose predictions are too detailed, who boasted that he was the only seer who saw clearly) predicted New York's nuclear destruction while American clairvoyants Cayce & Cheiro predicted New York would be devastated by natural disasters.

Waldviertel glimpsing a rain of fire from the east is sufficient proof for his credibility. Cheiro's predictions may have been delayed for our times. "Gigantic sunspots and magnetic disturbances will upset climatic conditions in all countries from the year 1926 to the end of 1938." A geomagnetic storm had already happened in May 1921, but nothing happened until January 1938. Why delay the prediction for five years rather than capitalizing on the trend in its peak moment?

originally posted by: Thrumbo
It would be military targets like the most important bases, the bases that have nuclear weapons silos, they'd want to negate our military first. As for murdering millions of innocent people in the big cities, who knows, but these would not be the first targets to get hit.

If our politicians and their military cohorts were sensible, this would hold true, but let's not overlook the psychological impact of bombings (why else would Israel and Turkey annually drop their munitions near Gaza and Greece respectively?), not to mention the systematic targeting of cultural sites (i.e. Dresden, Syria).

Here is a premonition of China invading the US shared with me by a brilliant inventor: old.reddit.com... The point is that psychological warfare will play an increasing role in the coming conflicts. Also, we may expect nuclear weapons to be largely displaced by chemical and biological warfare.

Allegedly, the US will use psychotropic weapons against the Chinese to drive them back. Could the "Havana Syndrome" be projecting their own intentions onto Russians (who were ruled out by the CIA)?

originally posted by: Thrumbo
But armageddon is good for Christians, they get to go to heaven via rapture or a quick death with absolutely no fear or pain because they'd know that this is it, time to live forever in paradise.

The Christians think exactly like Hitler did. Sebastian Haffner once said he was the "potential suicide par excellence"; that with his removal from the world, he's relieved from duty.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

First of all, only and idiot president like the one we have under the democrats will even try to wage a war against Russia, is not way in hell US can sustain such a war.

Still Ukraine is not important and have nothing of importance to fight for, but the greed and corruption of those with personal and private interest in that country, like Soros and cabals.

It will not be a 3-world war, on in our lifetime.

Ukraine does not rate such and incursion.

a reply to: Thrumbo

He was fantasizing about being SO special to God that God would choose him, above all other faithful, to give an apocalyptic vision to. Congratulations, you're now a chosen one as special as the prophets in the Bible.

You realise how arrogant you are to make assumptions about whom God would select to transmit a message to the people?

It has to be somebody, so why not him? He's probably just some bloke who has a prophetic gift, who was willing to share the information.. Do you think anyone gets fame, wealth & acclaim from publicising a prophecy? Of course not - they are castigated by reprobates such as yourself, cast to the winds & ostracised from society.

It's happened with myself that something I saw in a dream turned out to be a real world prophecy which could have actually saved many lives in the UK. The only reason I was chosen for that is because I will always share such things here on ATS in the knowledge that the information posted here is automatically assessed by military intelligence if certain triggers can be taken into account. So there was a chance that someone with the authority to do something about it would read the post & decide to act based on the information included which could be verified. And indeed the outcome was relatively favourable for our people & our Royal Air Force.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

There is no profit in the two superpowers bombing each other back to the stone age. Especially for the elite and their extended families. Unless it is simply to depopulate.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Wow. I listened to all three recordings. My gut tells me there may be something here.

The "leadership" of the US is a menace to the planet, to civilization and to future generations. They are perverse and believe that they are entitled, nay, they have a God given right, to do what they are doing. I don't believe we can do a thing about it except prepare for the worst, cooperate with each other and duck and cover. They are in charge of everything, they are liars, and they are going to put most of us through a whole lot more pain. Unfortunately, the hand of God is not going to issue forth from the heavens and strike down any of these people, except through human agents here on the planet.

I'm going to guess they will take California, New York, DC and Miami. Cess pools, all. So real #e karma is coming our way, but his timing was off. I think 2026, maybe.

SF is a disgusting place, as is LA...the world would be better w/o them...

Was it Red Dawn, a movie in which the US was invaded by North Korea? Megaphones blaring a message, something like, "don't worry citizens, we're just after your leaders..."

a reply to: anonentity

Isn't that what they are doing? COVID failed, vaccine is too slow, hence...