A 7.8 earthquake has hit Central Turkey it's bad

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: putnam6

Sorry haven’t read through the whole thread but just watched some videos and have to say I’m really shocked at the constructions of some of the apartments.
The way they absolutely collapsed into nothing is quite shocking.

Did you see the drone video, of 5 building complex in a circle with one in the middle, the middle pancaked to the ground, and all the other 10-plus story same buildings around it are standing enough that it looks as if people could have gotten out of those buildings.

waht made it shake so violently while others semi survived

a reply to: putnam6

Good info. I thought there were several in the 7-8 range rather than 1 big one and a bunch of smaller ones.

But as you said it's an ambiguous definition anyway.

Whether we're talking about swarms or not though, the idea that "this has been going on for a day" is unusual just doesn't hold water. Earthquake activity can persist for hours, days, even weeks.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: nugget1

Any information on whether, and how, these "rules of thumb" apply to different types of faults, ie.; subduction faults vs. strike-slip faults?

What type of fault gave way in Turkey?

The best information I can give you is you're unlikely to get solid, reliable answers from strangers in an internet forum. Take anything you read here with a grain of salt. That includes from me. I don't have the qualifications or experience studying this. Doubtful anyone else here does either. Anything you're gonna learn here you can probably learn in 15 minutes on Google.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: nugget1

Any information on whether, and how, these "rules of thumb" apply to different types of faults, ie.; subduction faults vs. strike-slip faults?

What type of fault gave way in Turkey?

That would be a Strike-Slip fault... www.britannica.com...

I called my Son in Cali told him to be aware - Also there was just a 3. something in Buffalo NY.

Quake that big in Turkey has to have some kind of chain effect .

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: putnam6

Sorry haven’t read through the whole thread but just watched some videos and have to say I’m really shocked at the constructions of some of the apartments.
The way they absolutely collapsed into nothing is quite shocking.

There is a YouTube series I have been working my way through Fascinating Horror that goes through a lot of man made disasters like fires, crashes, sinking and building collapses. In the last category I recently watched one on a Korean dept. store collapse and they talked about how the area had gone through rapid modernization and a building boom leading to cut corners and corruption in the interests of rapid development. That building pancakes.

I wonder if some similar factors are at play here, and the earthquake is just the final straw.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: putnam6

Sorry haven’t read through the whole thread but just watched some videos and have to say I’m really shocked at the constructions of some of the apartments.
The way they absolutely collapsed into nothing is quite shocking.

Did you see the drone video, of 5 building complex in a circle with one in the middle, the middle pancaked to the ground, and all the other 10-plus story same buildings around it are standing enough that it looks as if people could have gotten out of those buildings.

waht made it shake so violently while others semi survived

No. I did see one in that type of setting where it was starting to lean, but maybe what you saw is what happened at the end.

The one that got me is the one where people are running as the buildings are just collapsing all over and you can hear a man scream Allah… You can hear the pain in his voice, it is sooo sad!

a reply to: JAGStorm

I shudder to think what the big one will look like in Cali between liquefaction and all that weight over empty aqufiers.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JAGStorm

I shudder to think what the big one will look like in Cali between liquefaction and all that weight over empty aqufiers.

My parents lived in the Pacific Northwest, my mom said she knew the big one was coming. It would always freak me out when I would go visit them.

Living in Florida we saw first hand how scary sink holes are, I can’t even image that x 1000000000

a reply to: JAGStorm

Those buildings can have all the shock absorbers in the world, but the ground gives, it won't help them.

a reply to: ketsuko

For people that want to see some of the damage.
Warning very graphic!

a reply to: putnam6

waht made it shake so violently while others semi survived

The bedrock and buildings have modal characteristics like any solid mass. Certain compositions, geology, shapes are more resonant than others and that is why a similar building next to you could be destroyed, but your building survives. I really pray for the people over there as this is certainly not over yet.

I am seeing more reports of new earthquake.

A new earthquake struck the southeastern state of Kahramanmaraş, measuring 5.4.

3500 and rising. Long estimates say 10,000 possible before this is over ☠️

a reply to: xuenchen


apparently, another 7.5 to 7.8 has hit about sixty miles north of the first big one.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: putnam6

Sorry haven’t read through the whole thread but just watched some videos and have to say I’m really shocked at the constructions of some of the apartments.
The way they absolutely collapsed into nothing is quite shocking.

Did you see the drone video, of 5 building complex in a circle with one in the middle, the middle pancaked to the ground, and all the other 10-plus story same buildings around it are standing enough that it looks as if people could have gotten out of those buildings.

waht made it shake so violently while others semi survived

No. I did see one in that type of setting where it was starting to lean, but maybe what you saw is what happened at the end.

The one that got me is the one where people are running as the buildings are just collapsing all over and you can hear a man scream Allah… You can hear the pain in his voice, it is sooo sad!

I can't imagine the frustration of knowing people are trapped like that and getting hit with an aftershock.

Said it before the Turks are handling this with overwhelming courage and professionalism.

It is I had to turn it off for a little bit, and just walk outside and look at the sun...

I've only walked away from following the news for 3 hours and the figures have jumped to:
Turkey = 2,379, Syria 1,380 = 3,768.
I dread to think what it will go up to overnight.
Why are we not hearing anything about Syria?
Rainbows
Jane

PS, update, Syria has gone up to 1,444

originally posted by: angelchemuel
I've only walked away from following the news for 3 hours and the figures have jumped to:
Turkey = 2,379, Syria 1,380 = 3,768.
I dread to think what it will go up to overnight.
Why are we not hearing anything about Syria?
Rainbows
Jane

PS, update, Syria has gone up to 1,444

I am starting to see more from Syria. I think more was focused on Turkey because there was a lot of social media coverage, videos, even live streaming.
I can’t imagine what they are going through right now. I have only been through two earthquakes and they were very small but still caused a lot of damage, but this is truly catastrophic!

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: putnam6

Good info. I thought there were several in the 7-8 range rather than 1 big one and a bunch of smaller ones.

But as you said it's an ambiguous definition anyway.

Whether we're talking about swarms or not though, the idea that "this has been going on for a day" is unusual just doesn't hold water. Earthquake activity can persist for hours, days, even weeks.

The only thing that made some sense is most of the recent devastating quakes in Turkey were along the northern fault, building pressure on the southern fault where all of these quakes seem to be occurring.

Regardless you were correct there is something in the region that is making the aftershocks more severe.

at Fukushima, they had 800 aftershocks of more than 4.5 spread out over 2 plus years,

Turkey has had 65 earthquakes of more the 4.5 since this started less than 24 hours imagine how many it will have by 2 years later.

Seems like a geological or fault line dynamics even the largest modern quake didn't have.

en.wikipedia.org...

The main earthquake was preceded by a number of large foreshocks, with hundreds of aftershocks reported. One of the first major foreshocks was a 7.2 Mw event on 9 March, approximately 40 km (25 mi) from the epicenter of the 11 March earthquake, with another three on the same day in excess of 6.0 Mw.[7][58] Following the main earthquake on 11 March, a 7.4 Mw aftershock was reported at 15:08 JST (6:06 UTC), succeeded by a 7.9 Mw at 15:15 JST (6:16 UTC) and a 7.7 Mw at 15:26 JST (6:26 UTC).[59] Over eight hundred aftershocks of magnitude 4.5 Mw or greater have occurred since the initial quake,[60] including one on 26 October 2013 (local time) of magnitude 7.1 Mw.[61] Aftershocks follow Omori's law, which states that the rate of aftershocks declines with the reciprocal of the time since the main quake. The aftershocks will thus taper off in time, but could continue for years.[62]

a reply to: anonentity
Some of the footage of the destruction on that video is horrendous. One area (aerial footage) had a few high rises, but the rest of the buildings were 'pancaked', it was looking right across a city. Mother nature achieved in less than a minute what man takes years to destroy in wars!
Sad Rainbows
Jane