6 year old shoots his teacher

a reply to: Dalamax

No supposed to take guns to school, so there is that.

Here in the UK or in America, i imagine its the same in your own nation.

Maybe this was a large 6 year old? Alternatively you may have been a slip of a child.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

a reply to: Dalamax

I thought you Scots were all about freedom? What happened, did you run out of blue paint?

Aye brave heart was a movie Dalamax.

What we are not about is guns in schools, or on our streets, or in the hands of the public bar the likes of farmers for pest control.

And since banning the things, have not had a mass school shooting since Dunblane, so there is that also.

I don’t see why not, if everyone is armed then there is no feeling of superiority when you carry a weapon.

In fact it would encourage a polite etiquette and probably discourage bullying.

a reply to: andy06shake

a reply to: andy06shake

Far as i can establish women have been part of the workforce here in the UK since the turn of the first world war.

If I remember my history correctly one of the biggest impacts of the industrial revolution in the UK was that spinning machines and mechanical looms forced many women out of the textiles industry in favor of child labor.

So your not about freedom, my esteem for the Scotts has been sadly diminished today.

don’t get shooty, get stabby! Amiright?

If all you lot were armed and trained to use firearms instead of fear them, who would bring a knife to a gun fight?

a reply to: andy06shake

a reply to: Dalamax

I don’t see why not, if everyone is armed then there is no feeling of superiority when you carry a weapon.

We don't need weapons or everyone to be armed to feel safe or superior.

In fact it would encourage a polite etiquette and probably discourage bullying.

You treat people how you find them.

Does the ownership of weapons discourage bullying in the likes of the USA?

Because all those little crazy bastards armed to the teeth that shoot up schools near enough every second week do indeed appear to have been bullied.

And its generally the reason they choose to commit such acts of depravity far as i can establish, or so say the ones that lived.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Kids have always wanted to do things like this. It's hardly new that a kid day dreams about bumping off a teacher.

I don't know about "bumping off" a teacher, but yeah... I can remember getting mad enough to fight a teacher. Difference was, I knew the consequences and that kept me in line.

I can't remember ever thinking about shooting a teacher... maybe because we had guns in the house. I knew how to use them, they weren't a mystery to me, and I knew better.

What's changed is that unsecured guns have become more accessible. You've got way more people simply stashing guns in draws or glove compartments where kids can get to them.

No, you've got that backwards. I grew up with a gun rack in the living room prominently displayed and full of loaded guns. It's still there, still full, and still loaded. Most people I knew had a handgun of some sort in a glove box or dresser drawer, loaded and ready. I might do that now.

At high school, when kids were able to drive, the student parking lot was overflowing with pickup trucks. Most had a gun rack in the rear window. Almost all of those gun racks held rifles or shotguns. The majority of those were loaded. I'd hazard to say that close to half of the cars parked there had a handgun in the glove compartment or under the seat. Most vehicles were unlocked, mainly because the locks were broken. The big discipline problem at the time? Smoking in the bathroom. School shootings were simply unheard of.

Today, we have the larger cities (incidentally, where most of the violent gun crime occurs) having ordinances that require a gun to be unloaded at all times, heavily registered, two rooms away from any ammo, safety on, equipped with a trigger lock, key to that in another room, locked in a gun safe, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone decides they need to be disassembled! That was ludicrous back in the day; what are you going to do if someone breaks in the middle of the night? Ask them to wait an hour while you find the keys, unlock the gun safe, unlock the trigger lock, re-assemble the gun, retrieve the ammo, and load the gun so you can shoot them?

Here's what has changed: I knew what a gun was from the time I asked what that thing on the wall was. Dad showed me how to fire it and how to safely handle it, and he was damn strict. I watched movies with guns and thought how silly they were; they were play shooting! The first time I saw the idiots on Miami Vice holding their guns sideways I fell in the floor laughing! In JROTC in high school, I was allowed to practice shoot with an actual M-16, .223 caliber (aka 5.56 NATO) on a public range, with the gun locked on semi-auto (a few times we got to use the three-round burst option after we got good enough). I watched my instructor, Sgt. Smith, fire an M-60 carbine on full auto.

Today, even talking about a gun of any kind, drawing a picture of something that looks like a gun, will get one expelled from school. Households are forced to lock their guns away. In the cities, there is nowhere to fire a gun. If anyone sees a gun they run away screaming. The only place for kids to learn about guns is the movies and video games!

JimMi hit the nail on the head earlier: anti-gun culture has scared most of the country into an irrational fear of firearms and that has led to a de facto ban on firearm education. Kids are shooting places up because they don't know any better. We need to teach our children how to handle a gun safely and impress upon them the seriousness of using a gun.

TDDAgain also has a point: parents have stopped parenting. They tend to send kids to school instead of teaching them the basics of life at home. School is for academics, not basic life skills, and they have also been taken over by the "woke" crowd. And it's not by choice always... we have accepted single-parent homes as normal and proper instead of a home in distress. We have also adopted a "hands-off" general attitude when it comes to discipline; spanking a child is considered "child abuse" (ironically while subjecting them to sexual indoctrination before puberty and allowing them to take dangerous drugs over an imagined "condition" is considered proper).

Is it any wonder why kids are messed up today? It isn't to me; we messed them up on purpose!

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Dalamax
I don’t see why not, if everyone is armed then there is no feeling of superiority when you carry a weapon.

In fact it would encourage a polite etiquette and probably discourage bullying.

a reply to: andy06shake

I'm not so sure, there are a lot of people who simply wouldn't draw a gun on another person if they had one, and people who would want to draw first if everyone had one.

a reply to: Dalamax

So your not about freedom, my esteem for the Scotts has been sadly diminished today.

Doubtful.

don’t get shooty, get stabby! Amiright?

If you say so, but knives are hardly the answer nether.

Having been stabbed a few times, ile tell you one thing, its fecking painful nevermind traumatic in the extreme.

If all you lot were armed and trained to use firearms instead of fear them, who would bring a knife to a gun fight?

Say what now, why would you bring a knife to a gunfight?

That's apt to end badly is it not?

I think you require some extra training or at the very least a refresher course. LoL

originally posted by: nolabel
a reply to: JinMI
Yes. Life is cheap in America.
It is a problem of your own making.

How about comparing the number of murders in the US, where gun ownership is recognized as a natural Right, to other countries where guns are fully outlawed under oppressive regiumes like China and N Korea... how many people have been murdered there? Millions? Tens of millions? More?

Guns are not the problem. People are the problem. Failure to punish criminals is the problem.

a reply to: MykeNukem

I'd support my kid "ventilating" a POS pedo teacher.

I disagree; we're talking about a 6-year-old child. They shouldn't even know what a "pedo" is, much less be able to identify them accurately and readily.

If there's any "perforating" to be done, that's the parents' job.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

I don't know about "bumping off" a teacher, but yeah... I can remember getting mad enough to fight a teacher. Difference was, I knew the consequences and that kept me in line.

When I was 6, there were times that I'd have killed half of my class if I'd had a gun in my hand. Largely because I was 6 and angry for some reason. Usually something that seemed important at the time because I was 6.

I'd like to say that I knew right from wrong, and I'm pretty sure that I did, but 6 year olds have very little impulse control.

I knew what a gun was from the time I asked what that thing on the wall was.

I'm noticing a theme here, you're talking about long guns used for hunting and farming. Most of these shootings happen with hand guns.

a reply to: tanstaafl

In this instance, the child having acquired a gun, took it to school, and shooting a teacher would seem to be the problem.

They should charge the parent or parents by my guess.

It's a wonder it was not detected via the metal detectors schools have in place these days at the front doors.

Then again who the hell is screening 6-year-olds for firearms???

The mind boggles really.

a reply to: TheRedneck

If there's any perforating to be done, it should be after a person has been brought before a jury of their peers and sentenced to perforation after a fair and impartial trial in a court of law.

This isn't the old west.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: MykeNukem

I'd support my kid "ventilating" a POS pedo teacher.

I disagree; we're talking about a 6-year-old child. They shouldn't even know what a "pedo" is, much less be able to identify them accurately and readily.

If there's any "perforating" to be done, that's the parents' job.

TheRedneck

This was all hypothetical and admittedly, rhetorical.

Of course I wouldn't want that to happen, but we were discussing "hypothetically" if that IS what happened, I'd support it.

Kids know when somethings not right.

Yea, you can believe there would be some "ventilation" being done if I was their parent. If I was feeling merciful.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

More than just one industry, and not just textiles, all the same.

They also sent them down mines and in and out of the likes of chimneys for a start.

As a general rule of thumb Women started to be employed here in the UK mainstream at the turn of the 19th century far as i can establish.

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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: andy06shake

Kids are quite perceptive and can be cruel... teach caught a cap from a 6 year old for some reason.

Teacher obviously sucks, You're Fired!

Nah. The teacher should have been armed. If the teacher was the armed "good guy with a gun",and shot the armed 6-year-old, this would be a different story.

Everyone is a victim in this story, there are no heroes... only one perspective is required and that is to process it thru that lense, the victims perspective.

a reply to: andy06shake

It's a wonder it was not detected via the metal detectors schools have in place these days at the front doors.

Yikes, is all that I have to say to this.

You do realize that 90 percent of schools don't have metal detectors, and even those that do are mostly in tough inner city areas.

I remember back when it was considered extreme for schools to have security guards. Now school districts have their own swat teams.

When did America become a Robocop movie?

As it is with people, proper training turns the meek into reluctant self preservers and eager bloodletters into consequence considerers and If everyone was polite about it then you could never be sure who was which.

Apologies for that sentence, gun control is something that can be done by each of us individually and therefore shouldn’t be a matter that government has any say about.

a reply to: AaarghZombies