Girl to receive NT$3 million payout for adverse COVID vaccine reaction

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Taiwan
09/08/22

Taipei, Sept. 8 (CNA) A panel of experts appointed by the Ministry of Health and Welfare has agreed that an adolescent girl from Taoyuan who developed myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart, after taking the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, should be paid NT$3 million (US$97,087) in compensation.

The girl, identified as a minor above the age of 10, is the youngest person to date to be compensated under the government's Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), the Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) said Thursday.

The girl who received the NT$3 million sum, surnamed Kuo (郭), developed symptoms including a fever, headache, and sore throat 11 days after taking the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

In hospital, a cardiac ultrasound showed that she was experiencing systolic dysfunction, while a blood test revealed signs of heart failure and an electrocardiogram showed a third-degree atrioventricular (AV) block, the report said.

Another case of myocarditis post vaccination featuring a 10-year-old girl who has been compensated after developing the condition as well as heart failure 11 days after being vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine.

I am not quite sure why a 10-year-old girl has to be vaccinated with a product which is untested, experimental, and potentially hazardous. The mRNA vaccines are well known for their very unpleasant and serious adverse reactions and on the top of this children have miniscule chances of getting sick and die due to Covid-19.

The panel decided to award her compensation but could not establish causation as the symptoms appeared 11 days after the vaccine was administered, which as it seems in Taiwan is considered a longer period of time.

Myocarditis post vaccination seems to be a very serious issue and data has to be gathered from all parts of the world.

I remember when this first started... Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).

VAERS

Should of been a good enough warning sign...but yet here we are...they're still pushing the vaccine!!!

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

Well... Those who engage in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality and the truth will see no connection between Covid-19 mRNA vaccines regardless of when the symptoms appear.. Either it's immediately after the vaccine has been administered or 11 days after or in another given time.

But the story is very familiar to all of us.

originally posted by: jerryznv
I remember when this first started... Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).

VAERS

Should of been a good enough warning sign...but yet here we are...they're still pushing the vaccine!!!

It has to be noted there is underreporting of these adverse reactions and that not many are even aware of the existence of VAERS and that they could report issues with the vaccines.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

It has to be noted there is underreporting of these adverse reactions and that not many are even aware of the existence of VAERS and that they could report issues with the vaccines.

Okay!!!

It's noted!!!

Compensation was awarded for having myocarditis post vaccination. The amount was $97,087

Similar compensations should be awarded to all victims of vaccine injuries and they have to be more generous imo. Myocarditis is rather serious regardless of the attempts to downplay the condition by those who have stakes in promoting these products. And of course the vaccine apologists.

Thailand is also giving compensation also.

originally posted by: musicismagic
Thailand is also giving compensation also.

They seem to be giving compensation even for myocarditis. That's doesn't mean myocarditis isn't a serious condition, on the contrary it is serious regardless of the attempts to downplay the condition here in the west. But the 'symptom' of myocarditis is regarded as relatively common and not that serious...

So the question to the vaccine apologists is the following:

Was it really the vaccine or maybe another cause?
Myocarditis could be caused by Covid-19 too or other viral infections.

1) It looks like the panel recognises that most likely the cause of myocarditis was the Pfizer mRNA vaccine.

2) If it's not the vaccine then it raises serious questions on how protective the vaccine is against Covid-19 as one can get vaccinated and develop not only Covid-19 symptoms but a serious condition such as myocarditis.

From the article

The VICP panel convened on Aug. 11 to review 70 recently filed cases involving individuals seeking compensation because of side effects from a COVID-19 vaccine, and decided that claims in 14 cases were valid.

There were 70 recently filed claims. Although 14 cases were valid for compensation the other 56 were not valid but that doesn't imply those individuals were not injured by these products.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

Well... Those who engage in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality and the truth will see no connection between Covid-19 mRNA vaccines regardless of when the symptoms appear.. Either it's immediately after the vaccine has been administered or 11 days after or in another given time.

But the story is very familiar to all of us.

Actually, this proves us right. We were very open and honest from day one that some people would be harmed, and that some people would die. Heart inflammation is a well documented side effect that has happened with previous vaccines, and pretty much every vaccine ever used at an international level has killed people. That's not even a mater for debate, it's why government compensation schemes exist, so that people can get straight out compensation without having to sue big pharma.

The issue here isn't that people will be harmed, it's how common the harm will be.

We said it would be rare and that death rates would be in the low hundreds on a global scale over 5 or so years. The other side said that death rates would be in the 10s of thousands, or even millions, in the US alone. Depending on who it is that we're talking about.

Well, we're not knee deep in dead as was predicted, and the fact that when someone is harmed by the vax their names get in the papers and they get compensation shows that only a handful of people are dying and that there is no coverup.

Notice how different this case is from the usual ones on this forum. We have a named individual, proved to exist pre-pandemic. There are lots of clear details, and they have a standard well known side effect.

It's not a nameless friend of a friend who doesn't have social media, who happens to be a world class athlete, who phased through a wall and started screaming the headlines from tomorrow's newspaper, before shape shifting into a lizard monster.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
From the article

The VICP panel convened on Aug. 11 to review 70 recently filed cases involving individuals seeking compensation because of side effects from a COVID-19 vaccine, and decided that claims in 14 cases were valid.

There were 70 recently filed claims. Although 14 cases were valid for compensation the other 56 were not valid but that doesn't imply those individuals were not injured by these products.

You're right, it doesn't "imply", it legally verifies.

Out of all of the millions of people vaxxed there, 14 have been found to have been genuinely harmed. Demonstrating that vax injury is indeed exceedingly uncommon, and that the vax is 99.999 percent safe.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
From the article

The VICP panel convened on Aug. 11 to review 70 recently filed cases involving individuals seeking compensation because of side effects from a COVID-19 vaccine, and decided that claims in 14 cases were valid.

There were 70 recently filed claims. Although 14 cases were valid for compensation the other 56 were not valid but that doesn't imply those individuals were not injured by these products.

You're right, it doesn't "imply", it legally verifies.

Out of all of the millions of people vaxxed there, 14 have been found to have been genuinely harmed. Demonstrating that vax injury is indeed exceedingly uncommon, and that the vax is 99.999 percent safe.

If you take a look at the maths you did and how many conditions you have used to estimate the 'success' rate of these vaccines you will see why you are mistaken.

You haven't taken into account the massive underreporting and that not everyone pursues a claim against vaccine injuries.

You haven't even read the article which says that the panel considered 70 recently filed cases which implies something very different in terms of the actual number of cases.

You don't even acknowledge that you may get injured but the panel still will not award you any compensation.

You are trying to trivialise the matter unsuccessfully.

You haven't taken into account that complaints and clsims against vaccines are not encouraged and that the Pharmaceuticals are very well protected.

Finally the 99.9% applies more to the survival rate from Covid-19. It's actually 99.85% and was estimated by John Ioannidis from Stanford before the vaccines came into play.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Infection fatality rate = 0.15%

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
Compensation was awarded for having myocarditis post vaccination. The amount was $97,087

Similar compensations should be awarded to all victims of vaccine injuries and they have to be more generous imo. Myocarditis is rather serious regardless of the attempts to downplay the condition by those who have stakes in promoting these products. And of course the vaccine apologists.

The Israeli study in my signature shows quite the opposite, that it's often so mild that people don't even realize that they have it, and just think that they're a little run down, and that most of the rest simply need bed rest for maybe 3 days.

The actual percentage of people who have it seriously after being vaxxed is around 0.002 percent. Even the most serious cases have a mortality rate of less than 20 percent.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
Compensation was awarded for having myocarditis post vaccination. The amount was $97,087

Similar compensations should be awarded to all victims of vaccine injuries and they have to be more generous imo. Myocarditis is rather serious regardless of the attempts to downplay the condition by those who have stakes in promoting these products. And of course the vaccine apologists.

The Israeli study in my signature shows quite the opposite, that it's often so mild that people don't even realize that they have it, and just think that they're a little run down, and that most of the rest simply need bed rest for maybe 3 days.

The actual percentage of people who have it seriously after being vaxxed is around 0.002 percent. Even the most serious cases have a mortality rate of less than 20 percent.

Yes I see how mild these symptoms are...
Debilitating conditions, long term immune suppression, and death.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
From the article

The VICP panel convened on Aug. 11 to review 70 recently filed cases involving individuals seeking compensation because of side effects from a COVID-19 vaccine, and decided that claims in 14 cases were valid.

There were 70 recently filed claims. Although 14 cases were valid for compensation the other 56 were not valid but that doesn't imply those individuals were not injured by these products.

You're right, it doesn't "imply", it legally verifies.

Out of all of the millions of people vaxxed there, 14 have been found to have been genuinely harmed. Demonstrating that vax injury is indeed exceedingly uncommon, and that the vax is 99.999 percent safe.

Lawsuits determine science now. 🤡

a reply to: Asmodeus3

If you take a look at the maths you did and how many conditions you have used to estimate the 'success' rate of these vaccines you will see why you are mistaken.

I'm going to call you on this. If my math is faulty then please correct me. Show me the correct numbers.

You haven't taken into account the massive underreporting and that not everyone pursues a claim against vaccine injuries.

I haven't taken anything into account. I'm citing the sources in my signature. Which are peer reviewed.

I'm also having a little difficulty understanding why somebody wouldn't want to accept what is effectively free money from the government.

You don't even acknowledge that you may get injured but the panel still will not award you any compensation.

Yes, because the injury was something along the lines of "mild cold and flu like symptoms for 3-5 days". Which fall below the threshold for a payment. Absolutely nobody who had a serious reaction was turned down.

Finally the 99.9% applies more to the survival rate from Covid-19. It's actually 99.85% and was estimated by John Ioannidis from Stanford before the vaccines came into play.

Covid has killed over a million Americans, and that's a lowball estimate allowing for people who merely had covid when they died from gunshot wounds or auto wrecks.

In a nation of over 350,000,000 even a 0.1 percent mortality rate is the equivalent of nuking a small city.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
From the article

The VICP panel convened on Aug. 11 to review 70 recently filed cases involving individuals seeking compensation because of side effects from a COVID-19 vaccine, and decided that claims in 14 cases were valid.

There were 70 recently filed claims. Although 14 cases were valid for compensation the other 56 were not valid but that doesn't imply those individuals were not injured by these products.

You're right, it doesn't "imply", it legally verifies.

Out of all of the millions of people vaxxed there, 14 have been found to have been genuinely harmed. Demonstrating that vax injury is indeed exceedingly uncommon, and that the vax is 99.999 percent safe.

Lawsuits determine science now. 🤡

Or, in this instance: The science determined the lawsuit.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Isn't that the same thing the OP is trying to pull?

Worst of all the article even says "For this reason, the panel said, it was unable to conclude that the girl's symptoms were correlated with the vaccine, but it nevertheless decided to award her NT$3 in compensation".

Taking into account that the other claimants got between $162 and $16K USD I can't help but think that a kickback may be part of this award but, even if there isn't, this lawsuit doesn't prove anything.