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originally posted by: Solvedit
There are signs George Floyd was addicted to drugs. Suppose he had been stealing from his family?
Ahmaud Arbery might have had his troubles with his family too. I had the feeling that the handgun he was caught with in an earlier 2017 arrest was stolen from his family for the purpose of impressing the local cool guys or gang. He also tried to lead some younger teens into some sort of robbery and is said to have had no friends.
Suppose it's become the plan to give such outcasts false beliefs and send them out to get shot, then sue the community for wrongful death or at least eliminate laws like the Georgia statute on citizens' arrest.
Suppose someone like Floyd had been coached or tricked by his neighborhood into saying something the police would misconstrue as an imminent threat. Or suppose a false report was made to the police of someone like him trying to do heinous things to get drug money.
Suppose there was someone like Ahmaud and his family (who had given up on him) told him that a nearby white neighborhood like Saltilla Shores was a great place to go jogging, but if he got stopped, he should fight like Beyonce was watching.
They'd get killed, then the city would be sued for eight figures, or their family would get a house in a fine community. Or, their community would get the law changed.
Suppose, just suppose.
Incidentally, I think the hold used on Floyd is potentially survivable.
My totally uneducated, layman's opinion, which is not based on anything but suspicion, is that the police had clear signs of an imminent heart attack and deliberately crowded him to speed him on his way.
originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: Solvedit
Floyd had od'ed before the cops arrived. It just took time to have the full affect of the drugs. There was only a very slim chance of him surviving and that only if they took him to a hospital within moments of arrival.
Is suicide a sacrifice by your definition?
originally posted by: Solvedit
originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: Solvedit
Floyd had od'ed before the cops arrived. It just took time to have the full affect of the drugs. There was only a very slim chance of him surviving and that only if they took him to a hospital within moments of arrival.
Is suicide a sacrifice by your definition?
It's hard to tell what is a lethal overdose with opiates like Fentanyl because addicts always have tolerance and the amount of tolerance can vary greatly based on how much they've used and probably a whole bunch of other factors.
Given he was having an overdose and probably a heart attack, do you think they treated him appropriately?
originally posted by: TheGhoul
a reply to: Kenny2xx
The damage and death done to those that had nothing to with it is astronomical. Our political leaders kneeling to them. Then turned thier backs while our cities were burning.
Addicted to George Floyed?... cmon now
originally posted by: EdumakatedIt is clear that GF was pretty much done for regardless.
originally posted by: Solvedit
originally posted by: EdumakatedIt is clear that GF was pretty much done for regardless.
I think they may have exacerbated the heart attack by crowding him and pushing his chest against the ground. Kind of like anti-compression.
originally posted by: TheGhoul
a reply to: Kenny2xx
The damage and death done to those that had nothing to with it is astronomical. Our political leaders kneeling to them. Then turned thier backs while our cities were burning.
Addicted to George Floyed?... cmon now
originally posted by: beyondknowledge
If you had watched the videos carefully, you would notice they actually did not press on his chest.
originally posted by: Solvedit
originally posted by: beyondknowledge
If you had watched the videos carefully, you would notice they actually did not press on his chest.
What he needed was room to breathe.