Ukr's NS Defense Stated the country's goal is to completely destroy Russia

originally posted by: JinMI
revealing that the United States funded anthrax laboratory activities in a Ukrainian biolab in 2018.

And your point? I already said level two labs deal with livestock diseases and guess what anthrax is...lol Or are you suggesting the US was funding the Ukraine to create a anthrax bio weapon? Do you not think we would also have it if so desired? We even have level 4 labs to do it in too...lol geez

This is from 2017

Current Assessment of Anthrax in Ukraine

a reply to: JinMI

"Senior Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Leading Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Senior Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Leading Veternarian Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Senior Researcher Laboratory of Bacterial Animal Diseases
Head of Anthrax Laboratory
Researcher Anthrax Laboratory
Senior Research Scientist Laboratory of Mycotoxicology
Leading Veternarian Laboratory of Mycotoxicology
Junior Researcher Laboratory of Leptospirosis
Laboratory Assistant Neuroinfection Laboratory"


Agricultural and farm animal disease research.

How evil is that?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Do you think we should be investing/funding biolabs in such nation as Ukraine?


I will happily have yet another weapon discussion/debate.

Want to start with the silly one where Javelins are defensive weapons and not offensive?

Or do we want to start with the exact time when a thing becomes a weapon?


Na, you're too smart for that. How about we start with the outright twisting of the Bio labs vs bio weapons labs, then we can delve into the above?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

"Senior Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Leading Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Senior Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Researcher Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Leading Veternarian Laboratory of Anacrobic Infections
Senior Researcher Laboratory of Bacterial Animal Diseases
Head of Anthrax Laboratory
Researcher Anthrax Laboratory
Senior Research Scientist Laboratory of Mycotoxicology
Leading Veternarian Laboratory of Mycotoxicology
Junior Researcher Laboratory of Leptospirosis
Laboratory Assistant Neuroinfection Laboratory"


Agricultural and farm animal disease research.

How evil is that?

I laugh at you in govt speech.

a reply to: JinMI

Laugh at me all you like.

Unfortunately, you don't seem to grasp the difference between bio research labs and bio weapon labs.

Meanwhile, Russia does seem to have several of the latter:


thebulletin.org...


This is fine?

Twisting?!!!!

Irony.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Unfortunately, you don't seem to grasp the difference between bio research labs and bio weapon labs.

Enlighted me.

So I can curbstomp that argument too. I'll give you a primer. The difference is intent and deployment.

a reply to: JinMI

Javelins have been used against Russian tanks and armour that are on Ukrainian soil, as in "invading".

As in defending Ukraine.

What would you have them use, pointy sticks and harsh language?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Javelins have been used against Russian tanks and armour that are on Ukrainian soil, as in "invading".

As in defending Ukraine.

What would you have them use, pointy sticks and harsh language?

The were first used against their own citizens.

Get a clue.

a reply to: JinMI

What "intent" and what "deployment"?

a reply to: JinMI

How do you use a Javelin anti tank system against civilians?

When was this?

originally posted by: JinMI

Do you think we should be investing/funding biolabs in such nation as Ukraine?

Is biolab a bad word now? The initial 21 million to was to help update controls and safeguards in old USSR labs. We didn't build them, but we wanted after the fall of the USSR to not see their old labs be misused. I was on call for a few years to be ready to transport Russian nukes if we needed to help the prior USSR countries with their Russian stockpiles. I wasn't too happy about doing that as we knew their bombs were dirty and we would need lead curtains and to minimize our time around them even with protection, so just think how bad their labs would be too.

I will happily have yet another weapon discussion/debate.
Want to start with the silly one where Javelins are defensive weapons and not offensive?
Or do we want to start with the exact time when a thing becomes a weapon?

What are you talking about? Do we have 30 labs to design man-portable surface-to-air missiles in Ukraine too? Or do we just send them the actual man-portable surface-to-air missiles already made to use? See my point? We would not be developing bio weapons in Ukraine. If we wanted bio weapons there then they would be already created ready to use just like the Javelin is.

Na, you're too smart for that. How about we start with the outright twisting of the Bio labs vs bio weapons labs, then we can delve into the above?

You brought up this stupid Russian statement, and as I said even Russia has backed off from it since it was nothing more than another over the top statement as to why they "needed" to invade Ukraine.

a reply to: Xtrozero

We didn't build them, but we wanted after the fall of the USSR to not see their old labs be misused.

By the same country we've spent close to 100B on this year???

*gasps*

You brought up this stupid Russian statement, and as I said even Russia has backed off from it since it was nothing more than another over the top statement as to why they "needed" to invade Ukraine.

I don't know what russia says/said.

I know what our gov't said and what they seemed very concerned about and how they lied about it.

Ukraine is not NATO.
Not our monkeys, not our fight.

You can keep supporting Biden and co's piggy bank. I however will keep calling Ukraine a laundry mat.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

How do you use a Javelin anti tank system against civilians?

When was this?

J F C

a reply to: JinMI

From your source:

"Finally this day has come! Today, for the first time in Ukraine, the launch of Javelin missile complexes took place,” Poroshenko wrote. “This is a very effective defensive weaponry, which is used in the event of Russian offensive on the positions of Ukrainian troops.”

So, again, how is this used against civilians and if so when was this?

You keep posting sources that don't even remotely back up your claims.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

To date, fighting in Ukraine has killed more than 10,000 people, including roughly 2,700 civilians, according to the United Nations.

Same source.

I know, reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

originally posted by: JinMI

Ukraine is not NATO.
Not our monkeys, not our fight.

You can keep supporting Biden and co's piggy bank. I however will keep calling Ukraine a laundry mat.

Call it what you will, but we were talking about some stupid over the top Russian propaganda statements that you support and posted AND what the title of the OP's is. I never said in my post I support any of this, or not.

a reply to: JinMI

"Reading comprehension?!!!!

You think that says Ukraine killed those civilians? With Javelins?

originally posted by: JinMI

J F C

Everyone here has totally lost your point in this here. Yes we sent like 250 Javelins there, so what is your point again?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Like a broken pencil.

Pointless.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: JinMI

J F C

Everyone here has totally lost your point in this here. Yes we sent like 250 Javelins there, so what is your point again?

And RPG's

Thank you for speaking for "everyone."