Ukr's NS Defense Stated the country's goal is to completely destroy Russia

a reply to: VLastLying

Whatever you say?


Do you think anyone takes your socketry seriously?

You are the propaganda.

Yesterday a Freudian slip happened to EU-whatever non-elected role she plays-von der Leyen. She revealed that 100.000 Ukrainian soldier are dead or wounded. Zelenskyi was not amused and said that these informations are secret and shouldn´t be broadcasted on all channels.

The Ukraine had 195.000 soldiers in 2021. Russia has recruited 300.000 new soldiers as i learned today by the MSM. It´s western tax money, western technology, western knowledge, western equipment, training by western proxy-war-states soldiers/mercenaries, western mercenaries are fighting there... How much of the whole "resistance" ever was/is Ukrainian?

Without the massive support of the west under the rule of the US/UK axis this conflict would have ended a week or two after Russia did his first move. But wars or war like conflicts, wag the dog wars or whatever, aren´t started to end that fast. They are used to make money and the longer these conflicts continue, the longer the profiteers make money. And, of course, when they are used as excuse for the negative results of Great Reset and Green New Deal, they will continue as long as they are needed as cheap excuse. It´s not a coincidence that two WEF puppets "fight a war" against each other and make it last as long as possible. Both sides of them as we have to witness.

Nazi-Germany also tried to completely destroy Russia. I am pretty sure they had "a bit" more money, technology, man-power, knowledge, were a bit better in strategical thinking, in tactics, they had a own war machinery and didn´t need the money and help of countless foreign countries... And we all know how that fortunately ended.

But that´s how fascists are, they didn´t change a bit. They are megalomaniac, they take on more than they can handle and have no problem with killing the own people for their crude world domination dreams. No matter if the come from the Ukraine, Russia, Germany...

Cheers

a reply to: vNex92

Well imagine that.

I mean what did Russia ever do to them?

Putin made Russia bed and now Ukraine is coming to steal the blankets.

originally posted by: VLastLying
Did russia invade Ukraine in 2014?

Yes. Russia invaded, occupied and annexed Crimea in 2014. This was a part of Ukraine.

Russia, invading neighbours for a hundred years.

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: putnam6
Not a fan of Ukraine or Zelenskyy and of all the financing and weapons being sent by the US, but what do you expect a country to say that has been invaded shelled, bombed, and ravaged since February?

What about the Ukranians being bombed for 8 years?

I say Ukraine shouldn't have started shelling and bombing it's own citizens in 2014. Putin is ending what America and NATO started 8 years ago when they installed this proxy regime.

Sad it had to result in an illegal invasion of another country. But any other country on the globe would have acted according given the circumstances. The Cuba missile crisis is a close comparison. America wouldn't allow a Russian controlled Cuba like Russia won't allow an American controlled Ukraine. It's that simple...

All Ukraine had to do was let the people in the East live in peace and stop attacking them. I think the Nato question would of been solved by negotiation eventually.

originally posted by: vNex92
The US are using Ukraine and the Ukrainians to try and completely destroy to cease Ru as a nation and civilization.
The video doesn't mention US i added in this in my view.

As currently as it stands the US is spending billions and billions of tax payer's money that could had being better spend on education, homeless, mental health crisis, and infrastructure.

So what would Ukraine, the US and NATO be doing today if Russia never built-up and attacked Ukraine? I think nothing other than buying their energy as always.

Russia seriously miss calculated here and that is about all we need to say about this. They saw Ukraine as another Crimea or Georgia event and when they didn't take it within a few weeks they showed just how weak and inadept they have become over the last 20 years or so. This opened the door for the US to basically start a war of attrition that they can not win in the end and what did them in as the USSR. They started this war game and now you are bitching about it? The takeaway is if they stop then there is no further advancement as you imply with your BS DOOM PORN statement of "completely destroy to cease Ru as a nation and civilization." Nobody want Russia other than maybe China. You all can keep your crappy country and just sell your energy...

Tell them to go home with their tail between their legs and don't do this again, OK? Then we are all good, but hey if they continue then so will we...

originally posted by: vNex92
Your US tax payers money, Christmas, Holiday Season money
Going to WWs, MICs. While nothing for the folks out there.

What? This makes zero sense...lol

originally posted by: vNex92

For a Country that has no dependence from US.
Just like the EU.

Its a proxy war that US started while using Ukraine.

Yes it is a proxy war, but the US didn't start it... Play silly war game and lose...

originally posted by: JAY1980

What about the Ukranians being bombed for 8 years?

I say Ukraine shouldn't have started shelling and bombing it's own citizens in 2014. Putin is ending what America and NATO started 8 years ago when they installed this proxy regime.

Sad it had to result in an illegal invasion of another country. But any other country on the globe would have acted according given the circumstances. The Cuba missile crisis is a close comparison. America wouldn't allow a Russian controlled Cuba like Russia won't allow an American controlled Ukraine. It's that simple...

Jay, Jay, Jay....

It takes two to tango, but in this case its been three. The body count during those 8 years on all sides is about 8000 people. A big chunk of a country doesn't just say hey we want to join this other country. It would be like 1/2 of Texas saying hey we want to join Mexico, just not going to happen even if they wanted to fight for it. Also in that big chunk are the largest gas fields in EU, so whomever controls and runs Donbas area would instantly be filthy rich, so you have that objective too outside the whole we feel we are more Russian than Ukrainian. We are also talking about 4 million out of 44 million people who see themselves as Russian. 60% of Crimea sees themselves as Russian, but 40% didn't, so what about them? What rights do they get? Where is your tears for the 40% forced under Russian occupation and rule?

I said there were three in this dance and it seems you like to avoid the whole Russian involvement in providing arms and mercs to fight, so it hasn't been Ukraine indiscriminately bombing civilians these last eight years, it has been Ukraine fighting Russia and the Ukrainian separatists heavily armed by Russia, and Russia could not even win that one, and so we see the invasion.

How many 100,000s now killed or with life long injuries, how many towns indiscriminately wiped off the map by Russia. Whatever happened in Donbas is like comparing someone stealing a pack of gum to a bank robbery.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: vNex92

For a Country that has no dependence from US.
Just like the EU.

Its a proxy war that US started while using Ukraine.

Yes it is a proxy war, but the US didn't start it... Play silly war game and lose...

If the goals of western allies have always wanted Russia destroyed, then yes the USA and it's allies DID start it. So they put and funded a boat load of Bio weapons labs near the Russia border in Ukraine knowing it might provoke Russia, and it sure did.

They admitted they want Russia destroyed. How can they do that? They keep poking Russia with a sharp stick until they "invade" the Ukraine. It's a pretty good false flag by the west because the commoners are too stupid to see it and will also hate Russia and want them to be destroyed.


[Sarc/on]
You know what? I think idiots who are lazy and tired of having to pop their popcorn manually and so want Russia, and now even China to launch nukes so everyone's popcorn over here can be auto-popped by Neutron radiation. Because everyone already knows because CNN says so that "Iodized" salt will keep them safe! [Sarc/off haha

I mean, now that the dumbing down has reached these levels of human stupidity from OUR leadership here and with it's allies.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

What "Bio weapons labs"?

WMDs, eh?

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

These ones?!!!!

thebulletin.org...

Ukraine is a very dynamic war-horse, funded by POTUS Biden per instructions from his Elite central-planner/ deep-state actors

russia military, russian de-dollarization & russian dominance over European winter fuel resources... rusian leadership of BRICS activities-----russian & china as allies with hypersonic arsenals...all together cost the west/USA trillions in diverted capital amd even greater stress on ability to make war on TWO fronts at the same time

ukraine/zelenskyy, the Nazi roots...all blend well to accomplish a mercenary force of ukraine, corrupt and likely to become a 'protected country' loyal to the Deep-State NWO of Amerika & develope into a appendage of the AC Empire soon-to-be

a reply to: St Udio

Or, Ukraine is a sovereign country that has been invaded on false pretenses by a warmongering dictator Hell bent on reestablishing the former USSR and it's subject states.

Of course, Putin and his oligarch cronies aren't corrupt at all?

a reply to: Xtrozero

You sound surprised?

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

If the goals of western allies have always wanted Russia destroyed, then yes the USA and it's allies DID start it. So they put and funded a boat load of Bio weapons labs near the Russia border in Ukraine knowing it might provoke Russia, and it sure did.

Once again, that is just a BS over the top Russian statement that they seem to do all the time... Oh BTW Russia has always wanted to destroy America... see how that works?

Lets take the Russian BS US bioweapon labs statement too that is right up there with the US wants to completely destroy Russia statement...lol

First, it doesn't even make sense. Why would the US want bio weapon labs there? Why would the US need more than 2 or 3 anywhere? A lab is where you design the bio weapon and you would not do that in a country near Russia, or one that isn't stable. You also kind of need a level 4 lab and they are all level 2s with maybe 1 level 3. Ukraine is the largest country in EU and they NEED bio labs just like any other country to handle their issues. Those labs are all former USSR labs the US helped convert with as little as 21 million dollars and level 2s deal mainly with livestock diseases. The latest level 4 lab in the US cost billions to build BTW. If the US wanted bio weapons there then they would be a stockpiles of actual fully capable weapons in their delivery system ready to go, not 30 level 2 labs to design some bio weapon...lol You just need to think about it for a minute and then you would be also saying WTF is Russia talking about too. Also, Russia has long since stopped talking about this, so maybe you should too.

They admitted they want Russia destroyed. How can they do that? They keep poking Russia with a sharp stick until they "invade" the Ukraine. It's a pretty good false flag by the west because the commoners are too stupid to see it and will also hate Russia and want them to be destroyed.

What did the US poke to cause this war?

This was planned no matter what. Putin sees Ukraine as part of Russia, wants it back under mother Russia, period. Now the upside is he would get the largest gas fields in EU, full access to the Black sea and a direct link to EU to sell his energy without those pesky Ukrainians in the way. Zero need for Nord stream 1/2, or at best greatly enhanced their capacities to transport freely though Ukraine too. You have all this with Putin's true belief that Ukraine should always be Russia as icing on the cake. He miscalculated it all thinking he could win all this with a quick 2 week war.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

You sound surprised?

To be truthful, I was actually surprised that they did attack. There really was no need outside of ulterior motives that Putin desired.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I meant about the other poster making zero sense!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

These ones?!!!!

thebulletin.org...

These ones.

Judicial Watch announced today it received 345 pages of records from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), a component of the U.S. Department of Defense, revealing that the United States funded anthrax laboratory activities in a Ukrainian biolab in 2018. Dozens of pages are completely redacted, and many others are heavily redacted. The records show over $11 million in funding for the Ukraine biolabs program in 2019.

The records were obtained in response to a February 28, 2022, Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the Defense Threat Reduction Agency for records regarding the funding of Black & Veatch involving work of any manner with biosafety laboratories in the country of Ukraine.