Is Anyone Else seeing this? The "Workers" don't "Work"?

in walmart secaucus, most of the 'workers' dont habla english.

its a third w0rld shtt show in there.

how can someone who does not speak english, get a gig, is beyond me.

a reply to: TonyS

Having a work ethic is racist and part of white supremacy.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: NorthOfStuff

See, I don't get it. Personally if I take on the job, I can't feel satisfied if I don't live up to my personal standards. I can't dog it and stay satisfied. So this attitude is foreign to me.

Yep, you and I both.

I had one guy pushing for a supervisor position.

When I explained that he needed a bit more work on prioritization and job completion he said that he would work harder when he got the promotion and raise.

I tried to explain that it didn’t work that way but I just got that deer in the headlights look.

originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
a reply to: TonyS
What is happening here is simple-
You have started to notice the NPCs of the simulation.

Best way to fix the issue is never stare right at them-just keep them in your peripheral vision and your brain will return to the comforting illusion that they are actual real people.

Try slapping them.

a reply to: chris_stibrany
I will try to do one reply for both of yours.

Delegating work away and then reaping the fruits, that's brazen. In such situations, like during a meeting and I recall a workmates idea that would really work (but must be very sure), I would search for the eye contact and if that does not happen, I would say like " I remember an idea Bernard brought up about XYZ, maybe that could work" And then let Bernard decide to pick up the rope or not. That was for me the best way being productive with other's ideas that they do not remember or connect the dots in the moment.

Also admitting mistakes with a straight face and then instead of searching for an excuse, look for the reason, is something not many can do.

About the funds, yes that is probably the main reason for the dragging out processes. Does not help me though and not my customers. It wasn't like that with many companies before the lockdowns and "home office". After almost the whole year having my shop closed I had a lot of fear to not be able to stay afloat.

And I do not want to come over like bragging but is only my impression, I wonder how other companies operate, really. The second day I had my shop open people literally stormed my shop, half the parking lot was blocked for new projects. Wanted to order fourtyfive sets of different tires, half a dozen sets of rims and thirteen suspension sets, called like usual. Their reaction was if I joked them or pranking them. I was put on hold and then flew out of the holding line.

Called again and repeated it, until I got someone I was familiar with to finally put down the order. Then I asked when I can expect the delivery (everything was in stock except a few minor things) and the answer was next year. I then asked if I should come myself with a rental truck (really) and pick up the stuff and that was when I learned that it's hard to find people that will drive for them.

So I have to, currently at it, organize the transport myself because it seems like it's just too much to ask for. IDK and it's also what my customers tell me, who had to go somewhere else while I was sick the whole year. They all complain about the things we do here, nothing goes forward and if it's half assed.

Last week I fixed # others did to their customers that is almost criminal in terms of road safety. Almost get nightmares when I think about my customers driving around with wrong torque settings on the suspensions, it's frustrating currently and not fun working like that.

But it puts smiles on customers because it's like a stone comes off their heart. Where's the pride in work, looks like I could expand but who to trust and employ? I really have no idea other than doing it all myself. It's frustrating.

a reply to: TDDAgain

That is the one little silver lining, that by doing a good job, and being happy to help people, you know they will keep coming back. Even if it means you may be over worked and not able to provide, due to the volume.

We got a lot of new contracts with new clients lately, because the ones that liked us in old companies, moved to new companies over the 'Vid , and recommended us to their new boss(es).

a reply to: TonyS

Welcome, my friend. To the "Machine"- Pink Floyd

Forgot. My wife is a Guidance Peer Employment Counselor. Tons of jobs, people dont wanna work when you can go...elsewhere all over for $20-24 an hr? There are those too....unfilled.

Sadly? Therfore, no one goes anywhere.

a reply to: TonyS

I see it too. But it makes me extremely disappointed that it is seen as strictly a worker trait.

In my experience, the most important - most impactful - element of any labor or productivity-based job is supervision and management.

Behind every prevaricating employee, every slow-walking frontline worker, every procrastinator, shirker, abuser of time and teamwork... there is a disengaged supervisor or manager. The hierarchy suffers when those who deal with the actual 'workers' are too busy "meeting" and "drafting memos" and attending "success" seminars and socializing as if all of it were actually 'networking' for the business.

I have seen it many times... drop an analytical support person in their midst and the "supervisor/management" team becomes a chorus of whining and crying. The people who actually make the effort to evaluate the ineffectiveness of their grandeur in the business are pilloried, abused, disenfranchised, squelched and even dismissed. Stereotypically, the person pointing out the problem is treated as if "they" were the problem.

Unfortunately, these errant mid-level staffers are the same people who evoke the idea that their employees should be "grateful" for the job... as if it were a boon or benefit that was theirs to bestow out of some sense of mercy - as if they were not getting something for the wages they offer.

To me that is demoralizing. A demoralized employee can be a bottomless well of disfunction.

Supervisors are not bosses. Managers are not bosses. Even administrators are not bosses. They are all employees. But most of them expect their "employee(s)" to never dare say that. And they will use the tools of personal degradation, denial of support, and even cheap exploitation and trickery to punish anyone who does. HR is designed to serve the company - not the employee - so it's no surprise when they become the principle tool to keep that status quo in place.

These are different days, so when I tell people of my personal accounts of telling a major corporate company player that "I don't work for you... you don't pay me the company does..., and, I'm not here to please you!" I can accept that if anyone did that now - they'd be gone in a day.

a reply to: chris_stibrany

It's fulfilling and also gives some proudness, standing behind what one does and know it's good. It's almost a duty to make my customers happy and going to lengths to achieve that. Does not feel like chore but fulfills me when I see a smile and the emotional response sometimes.

Situations like you describe where competency finds it's way into new shapes but with old structures, to make a difference, networking the "makers" is the backbone of the economy. With that comes workflow and innovation, the driving cogs of any industry and it's just fun working with such people.

Where you know they stand behind what they do. Hunching over a problem and make a difference, that's true passion and devotion for a cause. And that's not to say simple or little work does not count, actually it's many gears that make up this transmission of innovation and success. I know from racing, everyone is important, the driver, the mechanic, the cook, the people behind the curtain that devote themself to something bigger.

That's when work is not work but living a dream, together with others that aspire for something.

a reply to: TDDAgain

well put!

It doesn't really matter what you are doing, you have to realise that it matters, to someone, somewhere.
It's not all instant flash and likes.

You can be florist and just arranging flowers in a vase, but if you do it, just so, it doesn't need to be building a new house to make someone feel good.

a reply to: Maxmars

Good grief, reading these comments has made me realize things are far worse than I had imagined.

a reply to: ketsuko

This genuinely a weird situation.

a reply to: Maxmars

Reading your post I had visions of Charles Dickens writing about the same thing almost 200 years ago.

Humans never change, anyway.



Just have different toys and styles.

a reply to: TonyS

I think not.

That this problem predates us mean that there is more knowledge and data accumulated to bring the misfiring to an end.

I think there is a generational component to this as well.

Our children don't have to quietly acquiesce to the mindset of the carriers of this work ethic illness. That's how we beat this (and a wide array of other problems.)

I am rather optimistic. in the future, these days will be spoken of as a cartoonish characterization of bad behavior... it will be funny and fun.

a reply to: chris_stibrany

Exactly! This counts more than status or rank. Comes down to awareness a lot. The "devil" is in the detail we say here. While devil representing the hardship to find these details and make a difference.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I forget where I was reading...oh quora. There is a teacher there that has been teaching for like almost 20 years, around middle school age, like what, 13 to 16 or something. And he is shocked and scared at the amount of bad behaviour going on, he said, the last 5 or so years now.
Kids behaving too childish, and throwing tantrums, like kids half their age.
Then kids behaving too sexualised, talking more about porn and sex than their parents even knew.
He says their attention span is seconds now, not minutes. And he feels 'proud' if he can get them to concentrate for 5 mins at a time.
So It's been a slipper downward trend for a while with people's behaviour.
He credits the rise of the social media culture, as well as more ubiquitous use of cell phones, to this bad mental issue.
For those of us lucky enough to not grow up with the internet, this is hard to understand, I think.

a reply to: DBCowboy

LOL as always.

Where is your pal, Augustus these days?

As for what is 1p36 deletion syndrome is about in the documents that Pfizer tried to suppress, this kind of complacency seams a part of it.

As for myself, my motivation has been impacted by the globalist trying to kill us. I am still chipping away where I can, but not as young as I use to be. My energy levels got hit hard when getting the flu/covid earlier this year.

With the scale of state sanctioned misinformation going on as well these day, Maybe it is screwing peoples brain up that drink the cool aid?

I am noticing some really dumb stuff going on these days. Maybe the rise of social media is also having some kind of effect as well.

How long does it take to build a new road? How long to build all the roads in the USA, UK, Europe? Road crews take forever to do anything. I think something happened. The simulation is either kicking it’s heals or else falling apart. Few people seem to actually work in places you expect to see work being done. Weird.

a reply to: TonyS

A few years back (around late 00s) I worked in a warehouse selling and loading metal buildings and structural metal. Even back then, we played hell trying to find anybody willing to work. They were all - to a man - either lazy or stupid, or both.

One kid (well, he was early twenties) was so stupid and lazy that I told the manager that I refused to work with him and if I were required to, I'd walk out on the spot. She relented and eventually fired the punk. He came in to work one morning crying because his girlfriend had developed enough sense to dump him. Just sat behind the front counter literally bawling and wouldn't do any work. Got his walking papers right there. He was about as useless as milk teats on a boar hog.

Another fellow was good natured, but dumb as a bag of nails. I told them that he was going to end up either getting somebody hurt or costing the store a barrel of money. He eventually dumped a load of metal on the roof or hood (can't remember which) of a brand new pickup doing something he was told not to do and had no business doing. It was just luck that he didn't dump it on somebody's head.

That's just a couple of the many.

I'm out of that workforce now; I can see that likely it's gotten worse, but it's not entirely new.
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