The Repackaged Illness

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

It's obvius you don't grasp the big picture here.

Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally, despite high levels of testing. During September 28, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,675 (0.2%) of 818,939 respiratory specimens tested by U.S. clinical laboratories were positive for an influenza virus. The low level of flu activity during this past season contributed to dramatically fewer flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths compared with previous flu seasons. For comparison, during the last three seasons before the pandemic, the proportion of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza peaked between 26.2% and 30.3%

www.cdc.gov...

The flu was almost gone. sure it had the same symptoms as Covid for the most part, and sure as noted above, hospitals were paid well for how many Covid cases they reported.

And the reason given is that with our mitigation techniques, we beat the flu. Mitigation that wasn't followed very well at all. But just the idea of it seemed to scare the flu away. At least while Covid was raging. (Fauci says it's still raging) But since he's on the outs, his word isn't as Godly as it was.

My answer covered this.

Flu does not spread as much as covid. The same measures could imoact overall cases to vastly different levels

Because obsessively covering yourself in hand sanitizer and staying 50 feet from the next nearest individual would have absolute no impact on the flu whatsoever?

I don't know about you but that entire year I didn't set foot in a single aircraft, train or subway car. And we all know what disease infestation hovels at least two of those are.

I used to work from home about 25% of the time

It's now almost a 100%.

As worked in the city center, between commuting and office time, my physical exposure to other human being has probably decreased by a factor a 1000.

I am by no means unique in this.

Can't think why that would impact on spread of flu. Must be a conspiracy.

17.9% of people in the US work from home. I wonder where the other 82.1% work?
www.census.gov...

First line in your link.

Between 2019 and 2021, the number of people primarily working from home tripled from 5.7% (roughly 9 million people) to 17.9% (27.6 million people)

Yes, there are many words in the article. Which one's change the numbers I quoted?

It shows a massive increase in homeworking over the period.

Might be relevant.

Yes, a small number of people increased by 1/3. There are 330 million of us over here. This ain't little old Scotland.

originally posted by: glen200376

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Those figures aren't accurate because most cases of flu aren't reported officially.

Then how do you account for 45 million in 2018, 36 million in 2019, and 38 million in 2020 being reported on?

They're an estimated at best. Do you seriously think that every kid who has a sick day from flu will be counted?

People calling a cold flu is what you're on about.No way are you off school for one day with flu.
You don't see the irony of you complaining about the accuracy of flu figures but you believed all the covid lie figures,you are in a cult.You are still a Branch Covidian even after all the evidence that we were lied to over and over.
You are severely brainwashed,maybe you should be pitied?

Is precisely what I have said in many other threads and on various occasions. It seems that an ideology has been created in the name of a disease which has a very small infection fatality rate of 0.15%.

There is nothing which can justify this ideology or cult as you have said where its members are predominantly people who have no background on any scientist and medical field although there is a number of scientists and physicians who have become followers unfortunately.

Claiming that flu and other respiratory diseases dissapeared or reduced significantly because of cheap masks and some social distancing is the least convincing. More of a desperate attempt at misinformation.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Narvasis
Kind of like how Big Pharma would never just tweak and relabel a drug to keep patents on it to make money right? Then “every” medical professional in the world prescribes that drug. These things just don’t happen! Or wait…

a reply to: ScepticScot

And the healthcare systems & medical researchers around the world just went along with it because?

Don't pretend you are retarded by ignoring the issue with the PCR tests.
The entire basis for the fake pandemic was the tests.
The cdc stated the tests cannot differentiate between covid and influenza.
...which stopped being reported on and tested for at the beginning.

There are countless examples of doctors being threatened with licensing removal for not supporting the top down narrative.
Very ignorant or dishonest statement you just made there, with zero "skeptical" analysis.

This had been covered multiple times before on this site.

It didn't distinguish between covid and flu because it only detected covid.

It was replaced with a test that could test for both.

Sceptical about ridiculous unsupported claims of flu being relabelled as covid that don't stand up to a moments scrutiny.

It didn't distinguish

Don't try and play word games with me bud.

The stated term was "differentiate"

"the tests are unable to differentiate"

more dishonesty

a reply to: AaarghZombies

"Too"? It doesn't look to me like COVID was prevented.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

It's obvius you don't grasp the big picture here.

Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally, despite high levels of testing. During September 28, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,675 (0.2%) of 818,939 respiratory specimens tested by U.S. clinical laboratories were positive for an influenza virus. The low level of flu activity during this past season contributed to dramatically fewer flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths compared with previous flu seasons. For comparison, during the last three seasons before the pandemic, the proportion of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza peaked between 26.2% and 30.3%

www.cdc.gov...

The flu was almost gone. sure it had the same symptoms as Covid for the most part, and sure as noted above, hospitals were paid well for how many Covid cases they reported.

And the reason given is that with our mitigation techniques, we beat the flu. Mitigation that wasn't followed very well at all. But just the idea of it seemed to scare the flu away. At least while Covid was raging. (Fauci says it's still raging) But since he's on the outs, his word isn't as Godly as it was.

My answer covered this.

Flu does not spread as much as covid. The same measures could imoact overall cases to vastly different levels

Because obsessively covering yourself in hand sanitizer and staying 50 feet from the next nearest individual would have absolute no impact on the flu whatsoever?

I don't know about you but that entire year I didn't set foot in a single aircraft, train or subway car. And we all know what disease infestation hovels at least two of those are.

I used to work from home about 25% of the time

It's now almost a 100%.

As worked in the city center, between commuting and office time, my physical exposure to other human being has probably decreased by a factor a 1000.

I am by no means unique in this.

Can't think why that would impact on spread of flu. Must be a conspiracy.

17.9% of people in the US work from home. I wonder where the other 82.1% work?
www.census.gov...

First line in your link.

Between 2019 and 2021, the number of people primarily working from home tripled from 5.7% (roughly 9 million people) to 17.9% (27.6 million people)

Yes, there are many words in the article. Which one's change the numbers I quoted?

It shows a massive increase in homeworking over the period.

Might be relevant.

Yes, a small number of people increased by 1/3. There are 330 million of us over here. This ain't little old Scotland.

It's a sizable increase in % of people working primarily from home.

It also doesn't cover the greater increases during peak covid periods or that its only 1 part of the measures that would have impacted on the spread of covid and flu.

People having less physicaly close interaction is going to impact in the spread of viruses. That doesn't seem a particularly radical statement.

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Narvasis
Kind of like how Big Pharma would never just tweak and relabel a drug to keep patents on it to make money right? Then “every” medical professional in the world prescribes that drug. These things just don’t happen! Or wait…

a reply to: ScepticScot

And the healthcare systems & medical researchers around the world just went along with it because?

Don't pretend you are retarded by ignoring the issue with the PCR tests.
The entire basis for the fake pandemic was the tests.
The cdc stated the tests cannot differentiate between covid and influenza.
...which stopped being reported on and tested for at the beginning.

There are countless examples of doctors being threatened with licensing removal for not supporting the top down narrative.
Very ignorant or dishonest statement you just made there, with zero "skeptical" analysis.

This had been covered multiple times before on this site.

It didn't distinguish between covid and flu because it only detected covid.

It was replaced with a test that could test for both.

Sceptical about ridiculous unsupported claims of flu being relabelled as covid that don't stand up to a moments scrutiny.

It didn't distinguish

Don't try and play word games with me bud.

The stated term was "differentiate"

"the tests are unable to differentiate"

more dishonesty

As I said already covered before and you aren't any less wrong with the passage of time . So unless you have New evidence to support your claim I see no reason to cover old ground.

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Narvasis
Kind of like how Big Pharma would never just tweak and relabel a drug to keep patents on it to make money right? Then “every” medical professional in the world prescribes that drug. These things just don’t happen! Or wait…

a reply to: ScepticScot

And the healthcare systems & medical researchers around the world just went along with it because?

Don't pretend you are retarded by ignoring the issue with the PCR tests.
The entire basis for the fake pandemic was the tests.
The cdc stated the tests cannot differentiate between covid and influenza.
...which stopped being reported on and tested for at the beginning.

There are countless examples of doctors being threatened with licensing removal for not supporting the top down narrative.
Very ignorant or dishonest statement you just made there, with zero "skeptical" analysis.

This had been covered multiple times before on this site.

It didn't distinguish between covid and flu because it only detected covid.

It was replaced with a test that could test for both.

Sceptical about ridiculous unsupported claims of flu being relabelled as covid that don't stand up to a moments scrutiny.

It didn't distinguish

Don't try and play word games with me bud.

The stated term was "differentiate"

"the tests are unable to differentiate"

more dishonesty

The member is well known for trying to deflect and change the course of the conversation when matters are not going well for the claims he makes. There are several examples around but the arguments he is presenting here and elsewhere have been easily refuted.

In terms of those who claim that the flu has dissapeared because of the cheap masks and social distancing I am afraid they need a reality check. These statements are ludicrous and are supported by nothing else other than religious beliefs.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AaarghZombies

"Too"? It doesn't look to me like COVID was prevented.

According to the new ideology or cult, call it whatever you want flu dissapeared but Covid was going strong. You don't need evidence. Just have some strong belief and this is more than enough to justify the claim.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Narvasis
Kind of like how Big Pharma would never just tweak and relabel a drug to keep patents on it to make money right? Then “every” medical professional in the world prescribes that drug. These things just don’t happen! Or wait…

a reply to: ScepticScot

And the healthcare systems & medical researchers around the world just went along with it because?

Don't pretend you are retarded by ignoring the issue with the PCR tests.
The entire basis for the fake pandemic was the tests.
The cdc stated the tests cannot differentiate between covid and influenza.
...which stopped being reported on and tested for at the beginning.

There are countless examples of doctors being threatened with licensing removal for not supporting the top down narrative.
Very ignorant or dishonest statement you just made there, with zero "skeptical" analysis.

This had been covered multiple times before on this site.

It didn't distinguish between covid and flu because it only detected covid.

It was replaced with a test that could test for both.

Sceptical about ridiculous unsupported claims of flu being relabelled as covid that don't stand up to a moments scrutiny.

It didn't distinguish

Don't try and play word games with me bud.

The stated term was "differentiate"

"the tests are unable to differentiate"

more dishonesty

As I said already covered before and you aren't any less wrong with the passage of time . So unless you gave New evidence to support your claim I see no reason to cover old ground.

The "old" evidence is good enough.
Talking in circles doesn't change the fact that the cdc recommended ending the pcr test entering flu season because it is unable to differentiate between covid and influenza.
But bless your future fact-checker little heart

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Yeah, these guys look eerily familiar.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

It's obvius you don't grasp the big picture here.

Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally, despite high levels of testing. During September 28, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,675 (0.2%) of 818,939 respiratory specimens tested by U.S. clinical laboratories were positive for an influenza virus. The low level of flu activity during this past season contributed to dramatically fewer flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths compared with previous flu seasons. For comparison, during the last three seasons before the pandemic, the proportion of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza peaked between 26.2% and 30.3%

www.cdc.gov...

The flu was almost gone. sure it had the same symptoms as Covid for the most part, and sure as noted above, hospitals were paid well for how many Covid cases they reported.

And the reason given is that with our mitigation techniques, we beat the flu. Mitigation that wasn't followed very well at all. But just the idea of it seemed to scare the flu away. At least while Covid was raging. (Fauci says it's still raging) But since he's on the outs, his word isn't as Godly as it was.

My answer covered this.

Flu does not spread as much as covid. The same measures could imoact overall cases to vastly different levels

Because obsessively covering yourself in hand sanitizer and staying 50 feet from the next nearest individual would have absolute no impact on the flu whatsoever?

I don't know about you but that entire year I didn't set foot in a single aircraft, train or subway car. And we all know what disease infestation hovels at least two of those are.

I used to work from home about 25% of the time

It's now almost a 100%.

As worked in the city center, between commuting and office time, my physical exposure to other human being has probably decreased by a factor a 1000.

I am by no means unique in this.

Can't think why that would impact on spread of flu. Must be a conspiracy.

17.9% of people in the US work from home. I wonder where the other 82.1% work?
www.census.gov...

First line in your link.

Between 2019 and 2021, the number of people primarily working from home tripled from 5.7% (roughly 9 million people) to 17.9% (27.6 million people)

Yes, there are many words in the article. Which one's change the numbers I quoted?

It shows a massive increase in homeworking over the period.

Might be relevant.

Yes, a small number of people increased by 1/3. There are 330 million of us over here. This ain't little old Scotland.

It's a sizable increase in % of people working primarily from home.

It also doesn't cover the greater increases during peak covid periods or that its only 1 part of the measures that would have impacted on the spread of covid and flu.

People having less physicaly close interaction is going to impact in the spread of viruses. That doesn't seem a particularly radical statement.

it it was beneficial to your narrative to argue that they sky was actually green, I have no doubt you would spend as many pages arguing for the green sky as others would engage. You are effective at having staying power. But you are arguing something more ludicrous than that here. During Covid, the flu went away, because of the super amazing job everyone did as masking and distancing. Now that covid is over, (remember Fauci claims it isn't) the Flu is back.

I doubt I could get you to change your stance as the narrative is pretty well burned into you by now, so for this topic, I'll concede, the flu can be totally controlled by simple measures, and Covid cannot, but to fight covid we still need to use the measures that don't work, and the Flu will come back with numbers very similar to the Covid numbers, and none of that is odd. Congrats, your superior wisdom convinced me.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AaarghZombies

"Too"? It doesn't look to me like COVID was prevented.

The word that you're looking for is "reduced".

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Narvasis
Kind of like how Big Pharma would never just tweak and relabel a drug to keep patents on it to make money right? Then “every” medical professional in the world prescribes that drug. These things just don’t happen! Or wait…

a reply to: ScepticScot

And the healthcare systems & medical researchers around the world just went along with it because?

Don't pretend you are retarded by ignoring the issue with the PCR tests.
The entire basis for the fake pandemic was the tests.
The cdc stated the tests cannot differentiate between covid and influenza.
...which stopped being reported on and tested for at the beginning.

There are countless examples of doctors being threatened with licensing removal for not supporting the top down narrative.
Very ignorant or dishonest statement you just made there, with zero "skeptical" analysis.

This had been covered multiple times before on this site.

It didn't distinguish between covid and flu because it only detected covid.

It was replaced with a test that could test for both.

Sceptical about ridiculous unsupported claims of flu being relabelled as covid that don't stand up to a moments scrutiny.

It didn't distinguish

Don't try and play word games with me bud.

The stated term was "differentiate"

"the tests are unable to differentiate"

more dishonesty

As I said already covered before and you aren't any less wrong with the passage of time . So unless you gave New evidence to support your claim I see no reason to cover old ground.

The "old" evidence is good enough.
Talking in circles doesn't change the fact that the cdc recommended ending the pcr test entering flu season because it is unable to differentiate between covid and influenza.
But bless your future fact-checker little heart

Also unable to detect flu.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

That's not really something you can prove though. There are no historical data sets to compare with.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

It's obvius you don't grasp the big picture here.

Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally, despite high levels of testing. During September 28, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,675 (0.2%) of 818,939 respiratory specimens tested by U.S. clinical laboratories were positive for an influenza virus. The low level of flu activity during this past season contributed to dramatically fewer flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths compared with previous flu seasons. For comparison, during the last three seasons before the pandemic, the proportion of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza peaked between 26.2% and 30.3%

www.cdc.gov...

The flu was almost gone. sure it had the same symptoms as Covid for the most part, and sure as noted above, hospitals were paid well for how many Covid cases they reported.

And the reason given is that with our mitigation techniques, we beat the flu. Mitigation that wasn't followed very well at all. But just the idea of it seemed to scare the flu away. At least while Covid was raging. (Fauci says it's still raging) But since he's on the outs, his word isn't as Godly as it was.

My answer covered this.

Flu does not spread as much as covid. The same measures could imoact overall cases to vastly different levels

Because obsessively covering yourself in hand sanitizer and staying 50 feet from the next nearest individual would have absolute no impact on the flu whatsoever?

I don't know about you but that entire year I didn't set foot in a single aircraft, train or subway car. And we all know what disease infestation hovels at least two of those are.

I used to work from home about 25% of the time

It's now almost a 100%.

As worked in the city center, between commuting and office time, my physical exposure to other human being has probably decreased by a factor a 1000.

I am by no means unique in this.

Can't think why that would impact on spread of flu. Must be a conspiracy.

17.9% of people in the US work from home. I wonder where the other 82.1% work?
www.census.gov...

First line in your link.

Between 2019 and 2021, the number of people primarily working from home tripled from 5.7% (roughly 9 million people) to 17.9% (27.6 million people)

Yes, there are many words in the article. Which one's change the numbers I quoted?

It shows a massive increase in homeworking over the period.

Might be relevant.

Yes, a small number of people increased by 1/3. There are 330 million of us over here. This ain't little old Scotland.

It's a sizable increase in % of people working primarily from home.

It also doesn't cover the greater increases during peak covid periods or that its only 1 part of the measures that would have impacted on the spread of covid and flu.

People having less physicaly close interaction is going to impact in the spread of viruses. That doesn't seem a particularly radical statement.

it it was beneficial to your narrative to argue that they sky was actually green, I have no doubt you would spend as many pages arguing for the green sky as others would engage. You are effective at having staying power. But you are arguing something more ludicrous than that here. During Covid, the flu went away, because of the super amazing job everyone did as masking and distancing. Now that covid is over, (remember Fauci claims it isn't) the Flu is back.

I doubt I could get you to change your stance as the narrative is pretty well burned into you by now, so for this topic, I'll concede, the flu can be totally controlled by simple measures, and Covid cannot, but to fight covid we still need to use the measures that don't work, and the Flu will come back with numbers very similar to the Covid numbers, and none of that is odd. Congrats, your superior wisdom convinced me.

Stop me when I get to the bit that you find hard to believe.

Influenza is a communicable disease.

The primary vector of infection is through the inhalation of exhaled droplets from an infected individual.

Risk increases with proximity to an infected individual

Risk increases with duration of proximity to an infected individual.

Surface transmission is a secondary vector of infection

Reducing proximity to an infected individual decreases risk

Reducing duration of proximity to an infected individual decreases risk

Avoidance of contact with contaminated surfaces decreases risk

Sterilization of contaminated surfaces decreases risk

I noticed you didn’t mention anything about protecting the injected from anything. Just suggested a good way to get shot numbers up.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

It's obvius you don't grasp the big picture here.

Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally, despite high levels of testing. During September 28, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,675 (0.2%) of 818,939 respiratory specimens tested by U.S. clinical laboratories were positive for an influenza virus. The low level of flu activity during this past season contributed to dramatically fewer flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths compared with previous flu seasons. For comparison, during the last three seasons before the pandemic, the proportion of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza peaked between 26.2% and 30.3%

www.cdc.gov...

The flu was almost gone. sure it had the same symptoms as Covid for the most part, and sure as noted above, hospitals were paid well for how many Covid cases they reported.

And the reason given is that with our mitigation techniques, we beat the flu. Mitigation that wasn't followed very well at all. But just the idea of it seemed to scare the flu away. At least while Covid was raging. (Fauci says it's still raging) But since he's on the outs, his word isn't as Godly as it was.

My answer covered this.

Flu does not spread as much as covid. The same measures could imoact overall cases to vastly different levels

Because obsessively covering yourself in hand sanitizer and staying 50 feet from the next nearest individual would have absolute no impact on the flu whatsoever?

I don't know about you but that entire year I didn't set foot in a single aircraft, train or subway car. And we all know what disease infestation hovels at least two of those are.

I used to work from home about 25% of the time

It's now almost a 100%.

As worked in the city center, between commuting and office time, my physical exposure to other human being has probably decreased by a factor a 1000.

I am by no means unique in this.

Can't think why that would impact on spread of flu. Must be a conspiracy.

17.9% of people in the US work from home. I wonder where the other 82.1% work?
www.census.gov...

First line in your link.

Between 2019 and 2021, the number of people primarily working from home tripled from 5.7% (roughly 9 million people) to 17.9% (27.6 million people)

Yes, there are many words in the article. Which one's change the numbers I quoted?

It shows a massive increase in homeworking over the period.

Might be relevant.

Yes, a small number of people increased by 1/3. There are 330 million of us over here. This ain't little old Scotland.

It's a sizable increase in % of people working primarily from home.

It also doesn't cover the greater increases during peak covid periods or that its only 1 part of the measures that would have impacted on the spread of covid and flu.

People having less physicaly close interaction is going to impact in the spread of viruses. That doesn't seem a particularly radical statement.

it it was beneficial to your narrative to argue that they sky was actually green, I have no doubt you would spend as many pages arguing for the green sky as others would engage. You are effective at having staying power. But you are arguing something more ludicrous than that here. During Covid, the flu went away, because of the super amazing job everyone did as masking and distancing. Now that covid is over, (remember Fauci claims it isn't) the Flu is back.

I doubt I could get you to change your stance as the narrative is pretty well burned into you by now, so for this topic, I'll concede, the flu can be totally controlled by simple measures, and Covid cannot, but to fight covid we still need to use the measures that don't work, and the Flu will come back with numbers very similar to the Covid numbers, and none of that is odd. Congrats, your superior wisdom convinced me.

That isn't the argument at all.

When strict measures where introduced to stop the spread of covid they also reduced the spread of other viruses.

Arguing that the having less close contact wouldn't impact on the spread of viruses is the green sky argument.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

What are possible explanations for the unusually low flu activity?

COVID-19 mitigation measures such as wearing face masks, staying home, hand washing, school closures, reduced travel, increased ventilation of indoor spaces, and physical distancing, likely contributed to the decline in 2020-2021 flu incidence, hospitalizations and deaths. Influenza vaccination may also contributed to reduced flu illness during the 2020–2021 season. Flu vaccine effectiveness estimates for 2020-2021 are not available, but a record number of influenza vaccine doses (193.8 million doses) were distributed in the U.S. during 2020-2021.

link

and there you have it. Washing your hands, distancing, wearing a piece of cloth on your face cut out in the shape of a mask, will totally erase the Flu, well, almost. It worked so good in Australia a few years ago, in the WHOLE country, they only had less than 500 flu cases in a season. So that means only 500 people didn't follow the protocol to a "T". That's nothing short of #ing amazing.

Us Aussies are renowned for our scrupulous adherence to protocols.

a reply to: ketsuko

This is actually pretty easy, it's pretty much epidemiology 101.

Take a look at the curve for British infections in my signature (Specifically chosen because it's free from US politics). Take the different dates for the different lockdown states, and then factor in that there is normally a 7-10 day lag from first infection.

You'll see that Covid in the UK peaked and declined at key dates. In particular there was a spike just after Christmas in 2020 and 2021. Which was when people traveled the most and socially distanced the least.

If you look at the US, you'll see that rates peaked in the winter in the northern states when people went inside to stay warm, yet peaked in the southern states in the summer when people went inside to keep cool.

Thus demonstrating that proximity and duration are key vectors.

originally posted by: Dalamax
I noticed you didn’t mention anything about protecting the injected from anything. Just suggested a good way to get shot numbers up.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

It's established protocol that distance and hand hygiene are solid protective measures against communicable diseases.

I don't even need to go into shots to make this argument. It's been established for well over 100 years.