Quick Death Penalty for Drug Dealers

a reply to: KawRider9

Why does "something have to be done"? Does it affect you?

Do you have two eyes, OF course it affects ALL of us.
It affects us in higher taxes due to crime. It affects us with petty crime all the way up to violent crime.
The drug market is probably the biggest driver to crime known on earth.

I’m actually all for legalization. I do not partake, but I think some herbs can be lifesaving to people. I think it is much softer than alcohol or cigarettes. I’m talking herbs.

Now when we get into some of the harder stuff like opiates, we have to draw the line. Also, these conversations about about drug DEALERS not drug USERS. There is a huge difference.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: KawRider9

Why does "something have to be done"? Does it affect you?

Do you have two eyes, OF course it affects ALL of us.
It affects us in higher taxes due to crime. It affects us with petty crime all the way up to violent crime.
The drug market is probably the biggest driver to crime known on earth.

I’m actually all for legalization. I do not partake, but I think some herbs can be lifesaving to people. I think it is much softer than alcohol or cigarettes. I’m talking herbs.

Now when we get into some of the harder stuff like opiates, we have to draw the line. Also, these conversations about about drug DEALERS not drug USERS. There is a huge difference.

My issue is users are the ones that create the demand... how do we stop people from making bad choices?

It affects us all through higher societal costs.... crime, homelessness, social services, etc. I'd like a lot of the money we spend jailing people to instead go towards rehab, etc.

I am not against legalization but we also need to figure out a way to hold people accountable.

a reply to: KTemplar

I also think this should only be for the Fentanyl, carfentanyl traffickers.

Maybe this should be more of the conversation.
We need to go ahead and legalize MJ on a federal level.

a reply to: Edumakated

My issue is users are the ones that create the demand... how do we stop people from making bad choices?

I watched a show on Netflix on how so many kids were hooked on Vape. I think drugs are the same.
We live in a drug culture, that is problem #1. Broken homes, parents working too much or not enough.
The nuclear family needs to return.

a reply to: bounder


Bullets aren’t that expensive

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: nugget1
I have an idea! Since the vast majority of fentanyl etc. is coming directly from China via Mexico we secure the border somehow?

Very few shipping containers coming into our seaports get inspected because it's too monumental of a task; how about investing in drug sniffing dogs and inspect every single one?

Too expensive? Well, the money already sent/laundered via Ukraine would have gone a LONG way towards solving the drug crisis.....but it would put a ton of unncessary, overpaid, ineffective gov. employees in the unemployment lines.

Securing the border is fine, but you aren't going to stop drug smuggling, you wont stop something as toxic as fent. And if you think things are slow now..inspect every single item?..not even remotely possible.

Anyway, Trump is a loon, as usual.

Well, Walmart, Taget, Amazon and quite a few other large corporations are laying off workers by the 10,000's; I bet they wouldn't mind a gov. job.

Since the majority of fentanyl, meth, etc. is being manufactures in Mexico with everything required being supplied by China I don't know how anyone can think a more secrue border wouldn't help. If BP wasn't so busy 'rescuing' illegals they may have more time to focus on catching smugglers.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: KTemplar

I also think this should only be for the Fentanyl, carfentanyl traffickers.

Maybe this should be more of the conversation.
We need to go ahead and legalize MJ on a federal level.

Hmm, i had lots of problems with stuff when i was younger, and i am sorry to say that i will always be a recovering addict, even now when i have been sober for years.

With that said, i am against the legalization of MJ, if i could just buy it from a store, well, that alone would consume my life all over again, i dont know why, but i have almost zero ability to resist.

A person who is sick should be able to get it from a doctor of course.. but from a store... no..


But on topic.. Punishing dealers?

Do they mean the street runners?
Or the bikers/gangs the runners get it from?
Or politicians and organizations who supply the bikers/gangs?

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: KawRider9

Why does "something have to be done"? Does it affect you?

Do you have two eyes, OF course it affects ALL of us.
It affects us in higher taxes due to crime. It affects us with petty crime all the way up to violent crime.
The drug market is probably the biggest driver to crime known on earth.

I’m actually all for legalization. I do not partake, but I think some herbs can be lifesaving to people. I think it is much softer than alcohol or cigarettes. I’m talking herbs.

Now when we get into some of the harder stuff like opiates, we have to draw the line. Also, these conversations about about drug DEALERS not drug USERS. There is a huge difference.

My issue is users are the ones that create the demand... how do we stop people from making bad choices?

It affects us all through higher societal costs.... crime, homelessness, social services, etc. I'd like a lot of the money we spend jailing people to instead go towards rehab, etc.

I am not against legalization but we also need to figure out a way to hold people accountable.

No clean blood, no social safety net.

Get the info out and roll it out 6-12 months later.

Like removing anti 2a laws, there will be a sharp rise in death and mayhem but will settle down much lower than before.

a reply to: JAGStorm

This should be limited to Fentanyl dealers only, and I agree 100% with that. Convicted of dealing Fentanyl = death sentence mandatory.

originally posted by: panoz77
a reply to: JAGStorm

This should be limited to Fentanyl dealers only, and I agree 100% with that. Convicted of dealing Fentanyl = death sentence mandatory.

But what if a three letter organization is supplying the dealer? What would a death sentence for the dealer accomplish?

These are the kind of things that reveal how twisted our modern society is, there is no fixing it anymore.

a reply to: XipeTotex

Well that what deals are for, go to the top of the Cartel.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Putting bounties on all dangerous drug pushers would put to many 35 year old attractive women with rolling suitcases at risk.

Plus I am not crossing the gangs pushing fentanyl in my locale. They are pretty much all "subsidiaries" of the kill-your-entire-family cartels.

Life is cheap as Colombia under Escobar 20 miles south of here. Tijuana is at about 2200 murders this year. Mostly in residential areas or at the pinata/useless crap store. We don't notice it because we've only had about 45 north of the border. And honestly, DEA, CIA, and FBI combined don't match the will and corrupt pull of the cartels to stop the problem.

Sina Loa cartel alone has the net worth and resources to spit on border protections or interdiction tactics. They might get some but that's a small percentage.

You could build a 50 foot high wall with armed guards every 10 feet and there would still be endemic Chinese/Mexican fentanyl laced drugs culling addicts left and right.

Sinaloa cartel says:

"Sí, estamos frente a un submarino. Te sorprenderia lo facil que es pasar por la Guardia Costera."

That's a fallacy argument but no more than believing a wall is doing anything to curb drug prevalence.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Electric Chair for non-compliant abortion providers too.

Drug dealer is too broad a category.

It can include everyone from the elderly hippie who sells people weed to some scumbag hanging around schools trying to get teens hooked on heroin, and everything in-between.

Smarter thing would be to legalise most drugs.

If anyone is to be executed it should be organised crime leaders.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: Notabot12345666
a reply to: JAGStorm

The death penalty for drug dealers.....what a messed up road you democrats have forced me down.

Not a single person ever will have forced you to go down that road.
I assume you are being sarcastic no?

I can’t afford to live like this. I used to eat steak twice a week. I haven’t had a steak in months. I don’t even remember the last one. Fvck these drug dealers, I’m voting for Trump.

Sigh…you can’t make a person quit doing drugs no matter the drug of choice. They have to actually want to quit. Then you can help then, until then lots of time, effort and resources are wasted.

Kill 100 dealers in a row. Plenty more around the corner because there is a profit to be made. Isn’t Walmart looking at a $3 Billion or so multi-state settlement for opioids? CVS and Walgreens also have pending settlements as well for the same thing. So it isn’t just your local high school dropout pushing pills and twisting up baggies.

a reply to: XipeTotex

Why should the rest of us pay for your inability to consume responsibly? Is your stance really that cannabis should be illegal for all because some have a problem. I would even extend this to any drug...if they were all legal the crime would greatly diminish as would the user base as exemplified by Portugal.

a reply to: nugget1

They will just find another avenue of entry. If there is money to be made someone will go make it...the more money to be made the more people well try to make it...and probably attract more ruthless people to do so. Make it legal and regulated and it cuts a lot of that out.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Why draw the line anywhere...its anyone persons choice to conaume any substance and also the consequences of them. Stop spending tax dollars in incarceration and rehab...make it all legal...and whoever can't be responsible can kill themselves with it or reap the consequences of breaking other laws like robbery and such.

a reply to: Ahabstar

Sigh…you can’t make a person quit doing drugs no matter the drug of choice. They have to actually want to quit. Then you can help then, until then lots of time, effort and resources are wasted.

There are people that are just addicted to everything, and there are some (myself included)
That just aren’t.
I don’t drink, smoke or partake. It just doesn’t do anything for me. I have the weird Asian gene that doesn’t allow me to enjoy alcohol, I don’t get “buzzed” I just feel sick, I’ve always been this way. I’ve happily been the designated driver.

I do believe that addiction is a “disease” actually the word I’m looking for is probably more of a trait, or a gene that can be edited. I’m sure those in power already know this, but it is just too much of a money maker.
I’ve been on the strongest pain pills out there, and stopped and had ZERO and I mean zero craving. I’ve said I would be the perfect subject to study for addictive substances and why it doesn’t affect me.

Having said that, that does not lessen the empathy that I have for addicts. I know this is a super complicated issue, where does the blame lie?