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'Conspiracy Author' David Icke Banned From EU, Labeled A "Terrorist"

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posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: Maxmars

Well , I have Silver Coins then . The Appropriate Amount would be in Order Sir . *()



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I was tempted to believe, though not particularly 'convinced,' that early on, in what might be characterized as his "awakening" to the insidious multidimensional influences of our collective 'leadership,' he became isolated and adopted a pseudo-messiah complex. Not unheard of in those similarly driven by a message they deem of critical importance.

However, I am not inclined to accept that the records his self-presentation represent an immutable image of the man. Humans are not static; in my estimation he is not the same man, any more than you or I could be so considered when compared with snapshots of us culled from decades ago... but I could be mistaken.

I am willing to examine his words and deeds as a continuum of expression, the message evolves along with the messenger, and while I can't fully accept the metaphors he chooses to embrace; I know that dismissing them solely based upon past utterances denies the possibility that he observes somethings that many others may have become too distracted to recognize. In any case, I choose to opt for more data, not less.

Is he harmful? That determination is best left to posterity because only then can we assign a comprehensive context to the matter.

I would offer in exchange a follow up question - Is he harmful now, at this moment? Narrowing that question in that way makes a correct answer more likely, again, in my estimation. If the answer is "yes" then the immediate threat should be self-evident and identifiable; If "no," the action of an "official" designation is irrelevant and more likely socio-politically transient.

It has been determined that he has legal means available to him to appeal this matter - and that from a legalistic perspective he has NOT been 'designated' a terrorist... I still feel that the inference is there, after all the authorities are unapologetic in the characterization of Icke's movements and speech as somehow a threat. Whether there is a realistic chance that effort could be rescinded is yet to be seen. Even if they desist in this, I find it somewhat unlikely that any apologies are forthcoming.

As for his becoming rich proselytizing his theories... that is entirely reasonable. People are willing to pay to hear him or speak with him... that is entirely between him and his audience; and not the onlookers who have 'feelings' about what he says. It would be entirely different if he had "secret information" which only those paying him could enjoy.
edit on 11/4/2022 by Maxmars because: grammar

edit on 11/5/2022 by Maxmars because: spelling



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: Maxmars
a reply to: LABTECH767

I was tempted to believe, though not particularly 'convinced,' that early on, in what might be characterized as his "awakening" to the insidious multidimensional influences of our collective 'leadership,' he became isolated and adopted a pseudo-messiah complex. Not unheard of in those similarly driven by a message they deem of critical importance.

However, I am not inclined to accept that the records his self-presentation represent an immutable image of the man. Humans are not static; in my estimation he is not the same man, any more than you or I could be so considered when compared with snapshots of us culled from decades ago... but I could be mistaken.

I am willing to examine his words and deeds as a continuum of expression, the message evolves along with the messenger, and while I can't fully accept the metaphors he chooses to embrace; I know that dismissing them solely based upon past utterances denies the possibility that he observes somethings that many others may have become too distracted to recognize. In any case, I choose to opt for more data, not less.

Is he harmful? That determination is best left to posterity because only then can we assign a comprehensive context to the matter.

I would offer in exchange a follow up question - Is he harmful now, at this moment? Narrowing that question in that way makes a correct answer more likely, again, in my estimation. If the answer is "yes" then the immediate threat should be self-evident and identifiable; If "no," the action of an "official" designation is irrelevant and more likely socio-politically transient.

I has been determined that he has legal means available to him to appeal this matter - and that from a legalistic perspective he has NOT been 'designated' a terrorist... I still feel that the inference is there, after all the authorities are unapologetic in the characterization of Icke's movements and speech as somehow a threat. Whether there is a realistic chance that effort could be rescinded is yet to be seen. Even if they desist in this, I find it somewhat unlikely that any apologies are forthcoming.

As for his becoming rich proselytizing his theories... that is entirely reasonable. People are willing to pay to hear him or speak with him... that is entirely between him and his audience; and not the onlookers who have 'feelings' about what he says. It would be entirely different if he had "secret information" which only those paying him could enjoy.



Yes , Nothing Wrong with Making a Buck . Hey , his Kids Gotta Eat !
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posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 03:59 PM
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Had to have a little childish giggle to myself.

ATS; you gotta love it.
Everyone agrees with each other but still find cause to argue.

As for Icke; Watched him go from goalkeeper to sports presenter to crank to conspiracy theorist extraordinaire.
There may be some small kernel of truth and insight somewhere in the midst of his mountain of inane ramblings but nothing, absolutely nothing, he's said could justify this ban etc.

Crazy.



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Maxmars

Well , I have Silver Coins then . The Appropriate Amount would be in Order Sir . *()


Stop tempting me!

I have to confess, I have no silver to wager, and frankly I have no business wagering at all... hell, I can barely afford prescriptions, food and rent at the same time.

Besides we're all good here... (I hope)



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
Had to have a little childish giggle to myself.

ATS; you gotta love it.
Everyone agrees with each other but still find cause to argue.

As for Icke; Watched him go from goalkeeper to sports presenter to crank to conspiracy theorist extraordinaire.
There may be some small kernel of truth and insight somewhere in the midst of his mountain of inane ramblings but nothing, absolutely nothing, he's said could justify this ban etc.

Crazy.


Letting emotional people run the world.

New conspiracy.



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: Maxmars

icke might be a lot of things, but being a terrorist is not one.

a terrorist is defined as,

from cambridge,




terrorist noun [ C ] uk /ˈter.ə.rɪst/ us /ˈter.ɚ.ɪst/
someone who uses violent action, or threats of violent action, for political purposes:



so i guess the EU ranks icke up there with ol farty (putin) now that's a terrorist.
but being a huckster, selling fake phony horsesh@@ isn't.




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posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Some folk would pick an argument with themselves in a locked room.

I remember Icke from way back, too.

Followed his ramblings for years, mostly for the laughs.



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: Maxmars

A very profound argument and one I have to agree with.



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 10:40 PM
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I don’t understand why if he is being labeled a terrorist, TPTB don’t just kill him outright?

Thoughts?



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: slatesteam

They don't want to prove him right.

Would lend credibility to his theories and dig the hole deeper.

Better to just play cat and mouse.



posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: slatesteam

They don't want to prove him right.

Would lend credibility to his theories and dig the hole deeper.

Better to just play cat and mouse.
Okay. Just spitballing here, but if assets are willing to murder a dozen people to get to the guy that invented a hydrogen engine this past year at a grocery store, how would they give the guy that talks about energy fields and reptilians give credence to his claims if they offed him.

As to cat and mouse, he’s one guy that most people would turn a nose up at just for hearing his ideas. A whole continent? Really?

I mean hell, he can crash on my couch for the weekend.

Why not poison him or make it a car accident?

They took out Ted Gunderson for less crazy stone-turning.
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posted on Nov, 4 2022 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: MykeNukem


a reply to: nugget1
Einstein, A. G. Bell, Tesla, Jung, Benz



Einstein, A. G. Bell, Tesla, Jung, Benz..........Icke?

I think your list brokeded. LOL

ETA: I'll be not too impressed if they shed their skin now....and it turns out he's right!






I really didn't mean to include Icke in the list of greats that brought so much advancement to society, I was refering to all the people who thought they were just as screwball.

Had they been silenced we'd all still be sitting in outhouses.


I know, I'm just a PITA


You're right, I could imagine Tesla going on about Death Rays and stuff nowadays...they'd be lynching him.






posted on Nov, 5 2022 @ 04:51 AM
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a reply to: MykeNukem




I know, I'm just a PITA




I know; you wouldn't 'pick' on me if you didn't like me.


@ slatesteam




As to cat and mouse, he’s one guy that most people would turn a nose up at just for hearing his ideas. A whole continent? Really?

I mean hell, he can crash on my couch for the weekend.

Why not poison him or make it a car accident?

They took out Ted Gunderson for less crazy stone-turning.


I think it's more the 'establishment' showing that only approved idealogies (which are hand picked for us) will be allowed, and Icke is being used as an example of what will happen if you dare to venture too far from 'approved' thought.

I expect to see this going up the ladder to cancel more and more people who differ from the progressive establishment. We're slowly being led to believe in only one philosophy.



posted on Nov, 5 2022 @ 05:05 AM
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a reply to: nugget1
Russell Brands latest yt video is rather concerning.



posted on Nov, 5 2022 @ 06:26 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: nugget1
Russell Brands latest yt video is rather concerning.



Not sure what it's about and won't likely find out unless someone shares a synopsis; I don't care for his delivery style and find it too irritating to watch even snippits.
Not saying he doesn't have worthy information; just saying not a source I can struggle through.



posted on Nov, 5 2022 @ 06:39 AM
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a reply to: nugget1
That's a real shame.



posted on Nov, 5 2022 @ 06:45 AM
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a reply to: slatesteam




I don’t understand why if he is being labeled a terrorist, TPTB don’t just kill him outright? Thoughts?


that's right, the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist or a jailed terrorist.

but as i posted earlier, icke doesn't fit any accepted definition published in any dictionary that i have seen for terrorist. unless he's gone real radical and has started telling folks to start using violence to stop the Sleestak's agenda that run the eu has planned in his fear mongering huckstering, they can't be having that.


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posted on Nov, 5 2022 @ 07:06 AM
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a reply to: nugget1




Not saying he doesn't have worthy information; just saying not a source I can struggle through.


In that case James Corbett might be more to your taste. Check out thecorbettreport.com or the Corbett report podcast. He even provides links and the relevant info to back up what he’s saying.



posted on Nov, 5 2022 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
absolutely nothing, he's said could justify this ban etc.


Europe isn't like the US. People there are a lot more sensitive when it comes to antisemitism. Especially right now, because immigration and the economy are hot button issues. Historically, these have been triggers for anti-Jewish sentiment. This isn't a WWII thing, it goes back centuries. Even Shakespear comment on it.

Ike has spent years claiming that Jewish bankers are behind everything, the main reason that he hasn't gotten people killed is probably because the far right see him as being a UFO nut, rather than one of them.







 
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