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I am not high on mushrooms but think this

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posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 01:03 AM
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The increase of IRS agents will have the authority to monitor your fishing habits and tax you on your catches. That's one reason they will be armed at all popular fishing areas. I say this because industrial fishing is regulated in this country. Beware this is a real possibility that it's not that you not own anything, but you will not own the fish you catch utill you pay the taxman. Already its too expensive to take out your fishing boat. Bank fishing will be regulated. Time to know where them country canals are



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

Tax collector = bait.

Throw them in!

You may catch a gold fish.

Or a silver eel!

P

edit on 22/10/2022 by pheonix358 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 01:36 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

Time to start rebelling I think. They do not own the oceans, the rivers, the fish or anything that's not theirs.
They need to be put in their place.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

It is clear by your post, that you have no clue as to how the IRS works, nor how income information is supplied to the agency.

In fact, since you seem to think that caught fish are somehow taxable, it would appear that you do not even adequately understand the definition of "Income" and how it relates to the jurisdiction of the IRS.


Hint:

What you pull out of the water doesn't become income until you receive payment for it, that is, until (and unless) you sell what you've caught.
edit on 22-10-2022 by Mantiss2021 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 03:26 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

Whoa, hold on bro.

Don't you live in Japan?

What are you talking about regarding "this country", the internal revenue service, and big brother watching how many fish you catch?

Please explain. And, what does this have to do with not being high on mushrooms?

I always like to get a sentence that starts with the word "and" in when it's possible.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358

Catfish will eat the nastiest, smelliest most rotten bait you can imagine....but even they draw the line at IRS agents.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 05:12 AM
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a reply to: Thrumbo

I've switched to using "Also".

Also, I'm wondering what shrooms have to do with this OP?

OP?



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: MykeNukem

I think those mushrooms when ingested will enlightened the hidden thoughts that power over us. IRS has that power. It's my thoughts that led me to even post about surrendering your harvest to the IRS if you don't pay your taxes. That's why in the future regulated fishing will fall under national food security just like the rice harvest in many Asian countries.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 05:57 AM
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originally posted by: musicismagic
a reply to: MykeNukem

I think those mushrooms when ingested will enlightened the hidden thoughts that power over us. IRS has that power. It's my thoughts that led me to even post about surrendering your harvest to the IRS if you don't pay your taxes. That's why in the future regulated fishing will fall under national food security just like the rice harvest in many Asian countries.



Yes, regulation is closing in on everything.

I'm pretty sure this would fall under a Fish and Game or Environmental Agency (whatever they're called in the States).

Here in Canada they'll never be able to stop us, unless they start tracking us with thermal detection or something. Just too much land to monitor.


edit on 10/22/2022 by MykeNukem because: eh?



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: MykeNukem

That’s why they want you off the land and in their smart cities, they may let a few stragglers live in the wilderness, or they may take them out with drones. I’d rather take my chances with drones.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 08:54 AM
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My husband goes out on a small boat with some friends just off the NJ coast -
the state is extremely strict about fishing, you can only keep a certain amount of a certain fish (I think it's down to 2 or 3 now of fluke), and each fish must be over a certain length (which is a larger length each year), you must have a state fishing license with you which must be printed on their website each year, and the state has inspector game wardens which pull you over to inspect what you have caught randomly. And if over the limit or under the specified size, the fish are taken and you are fined.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 10:30 AM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: MykeNukem

That’s why they want you off the land and in their smart cities, they may let a few stragglers live in the wilderness, or they may take them out with drones. I’d rather take my chances with drones.



Maybe we'll have to become "mole" people, lol.




posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: musicismagic




I am not high on mushrooms but think this



If they want my mushrooms or fish, they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands!



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: musicismagic

The DNR enforces fishing in Michigan's inland and Great lakes, rivers streams and International shoreline. Busted someone by the river yesterday as we watched. Huge fish. Took it, his lisc...AND all his equipment.

Being a Great Lake State, DNR is everywhere...doubt IRS has anything gonna go more than now.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021
Ah Mantiss, you have a very black and white idea of the tax people. My experience in the UK (this could be transferred into the US if they want to) my line of work was a carpenter. All of a sudden the tax people upped my tax band because of foreigners (foreigners are when you do work for other people on the side). Now I informed the tax people I don't do foreigners but they informed me that "I could" so I still had to pay.

Now for your situation, what if I caught fish and didn't sell them but bartered them for other goods. What would the tax people do then? I will tell you, they will estimate what you should have made monetarily and tax you to suit. Even though you don't have the money they WILL still charge you.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 04:51 PM
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I can tell that you've never had a heroic dose of mushrooms. It tends to temper one's words.
....... And if think that musicismagic now, you just wait and see.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: homerJ
I can tell that you've never had a heroic dose of mushrooms. It tends to temper one's words.
....... And if think that musicismagic now, you just wait and see.



Best post l read today.



posted on Oct, 22 2022 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: Mantiss2021
Ah Mantiss, you have a very black and white idea of the tax people. My experience in the UK (this could be transferred into the US if they want to) my line of work was a carpenter. All of a sudden the tax people upped my tax band because of foreigners (foreigners are when you do work for other people on the side). Now I informed the tax people I don't do foreigners but they informed me that "I could" so I still had to pay.

Now for your situation, what if I caught fish and didn't sell them but bartered them for other goods. What would the tax people do then? I will tell you, they will estimate what you should have made monetarily and tax you to suit. Even though you don't have the money they WILL still charge you.



My perception of "tax oeople" derives from my personal experience as an agent for a State tax agency (which operate by similar regulations to, and in conjunction with, the US federal Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

After serving over 20 years as an on-line customer service specialist (the people you, or more often, your accountant/CPA/attorney(solicitor?) calls when you get a notice from the Agency), I have a pretty good understanding of how the tax process works, both on my State's level, and within the IRS, itself. I also worked, following my retirement, for a couple of years, as a professional tax preparer for a national company...Until 2020 hit.

Not certain whether, and to what extent, there might be a "one-to-one" correlation between US/State tax processes and UK/County(?) tax processes. Nor do I feel like I really understand what is meant by "foreigners", despite your much appreciated explanation (Is it a paid "gig" performed outside your regular employer/employment using your skills/tools, but not in the context of a formal business?).

In California, where I worked, some skilled tradespeople (like electricians, beauticians, plumbers, general contractors, etc) are required to obtain "business licenses", filed through the State's Board of Equalization (which all taxation issues other than personal, bank, corporation, and partnership taxes).

This license information is reported annually to the agency I used to work for. That information would be compared to the tax returns filed. Anyone having an active business license, but who had not filed a tax return for that year, would be sent a notice asking for either the delinquent return, or an explanation as to why a return was not required for that tax year.

And yes, those notices would be issued on the basis of the, logical, assumption that anyone going to the effort to file for a business license would be doing so with the intent of "doing business"; earning income.


Now, to your example;

Bartered goods do have monetary value, a "market value" which they could reasonably demand if exchanged for regular currency, and it is upon this market value that a tax value is assessed. If you had to pay cash, instead of fish, for those other goods, your fish would rightly be considered worth the cash it replaces. And the estimate upon which your tax bill is calculated is based on the average of what others selling, or bartering, fish make in taxable income.

Which is why it makes sense to file your tax reports when required; you don't what to pay more than your earnings require because you didn't have as good a year as your fellow tradesmen.



posted on Oct, 23 2022 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: musicismagic

The DNR enforces fishing in Michigan's inland and Great lakes, rivers streams and International shoreline. Busted someone by the river yesterday as we watched. Huge fish. Took it, his lisc...AND all his equipment.

Being a Great Lake State, DNR is everywhere...doubt IRS has anything gonna go more than now.


Stealing fish is bad form.

Deserves a heavy penalty.



posted on Oct, 23 2022 @ 11:24 PM
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If they tax you on fish, then you should be able to write off the costs of going fishing. I personally have never come out ahead when going fishing....beer is required for fishing because you need to be drunk to hide the fact that it is costing my more than you benefit from fishing. Same with deer hunting, you should be able to claim a loss if you go deer hunting on your taxes if they start taxing you for shooting a deer....I don't even want to think about how much a pound that deer meat cost by the time you get it all processed. It is a losing venture.




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