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Germans told to stop whining ready in case of blackouts this winter

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posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 05:38 AM
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Since that thread is about the situation in Germany and not about who started what and when, let´s have a look at the current situation in Germany. While we have really cold nights meanwhile, even where i live, i wake up in a room that is only a few degrees warmer than the temperature is outsides. The house is heated with oil and the main heater for the whole house isn´t switched on yet because we have to save. Our landlord isn´t a rich man and really is fair with the rents. And he even lives outsides of Cologne for rent by himself and has to pay moon prices for everything now, for the rented house he lives in and for the houses he rents to others. While it´s a bit uncomfortable for me, the older people in the house (all vaxxed btw) are coughing and sneezing all the time since around two weeks. The house is an old house they build after the second world war from the debris, nothing is isolated and in addition to that it has single pane windows with aluminum frames, two of them in a room of around 10 to 12 square meters for example.

So we people really don´t need "nine times wise" advice coming from so called politicians who do everything to break their oath, who do everything do deindustrialize Germany and harm 90% of it´s residents only to serve the rich 10%, to serve any NGO´s, to serve the Davos-WEF-G7-NATO-Bilderberger-US think tank BS, to serve the world but to "forget" Germany.

Is there currently any other nation that has the same, by so called politicians homemade problems with energy prices, with deindustrializing, with inflation, with supply shortages and all the misery that comes with it, in the same dimensions like in Germany? Didn´t hear about french or dutch or beglian etc people having the same problems only we germans have again. We are the ghost rider but wondering about the millions of cars that come towards us. Same with that Corona BS, since one week there are tightened rules again, tv news and newspaper are full of mandatory FFP2 masks everywhere (this time, until now only these cheap paper masks were ok for all the corona BS time) because hospitals getting fuller with people who are tested positive with these more than inaccurate tests but not suffering from "covid" but maybe from a broken leg or whatever. The same BS game like the last three years starts right now again, in addition to all the BS for that these so called politicians are responsible. Not few people have the feeling meanwhile that they want to break us people by any means necessary.

The effing EU toy money is worth less and less from minute to minute. I am shocked when i compare dollar to euro prices on Amazon for example. Cheap food, even cheap quality food, is expensive now here but still of low quality. For some things you pay more than 75% before they started to use the Ukraine scenario as an excuse for non-stop climbing prices that started to climb before anything in the Ukraine happened. They started their Great Reset with Corona, not with the Ukraine BS scenario where two WEF Young Global Leaders "fight" each other.

If "we", Germany under the rule of the foreign controlled and so called politicians, want to ruin Russia (WEF-Young Global Leader Baerbock), why benefits Russia from the current situation but Germany suffers? These sanctions are not against Russia, these sanctions are against the EU population, and first of all against Germany and 90% of it´s mostly still sleeping and dreaming population. These sanctions are used to bring us down as we can witness live, in color and 3D.

Social institutions like Die Tafel say that they maybe can´t afford energy prices anymore and they meanwhile almost have not enough food anymore to give it to the people. Because the poor are getting more and more in numbers, day by day. People can´t afford their growing utility bills anymore and maybe lose the apartments or whatever they rented, landlords can´t afford all that BS anymore so they maybe lose the houses which they rented to others. Companies can´t afford all that BS anymore and are closing down, leaving people without jobs. The steel and aluminum production and other segments of the industry are on short time and can´t produce anymore what they could produce before all that BS started in 2019(climbing moon prices)/2020("Corona"/hot Great Reset and Green New Deal).

The "green Khmer as i call them, the "green"(NATO- and dollar-green) party and it´s responsible "politicians" in the theater to fool the masses, still work hard for less energy and higher prices, still work hard to "ruin Russia", still want to close down the rest of our nuclear power plants as fast as possible, in the middle of all that BS right now. Supported by all the other parties and so called politicians except the AfD and the less than 5% parties like Die Partei (my fav).

And if you dare to say anything in public about or against that disastrous behavior of the so called politics, if you dare to be not happy about all that BS that was and is not necessary but brings us back to 1929, if you point the finger to the perpetrators, if you dare to warn of that upcoming socialism (this time anti-national socialism but exactly as brown as the Nazis national-socialism, even if painted "green"), if you dare to warn that democracy and basic laws are broken by the perpetrators, then the propaganda machinery will "kill" you. Without the all that BS supporting presstitutes we wouldn´t be in a situation like the one we have to deal with now. They will turn you into an anti-democrat, into a right-wing extremist, as a dange to the nation and it´s people. They are fully on 1984 modus.

And since yesterday the public knows and now believes it too, that this is only the beginning. The news told us yesterday that 2023 and 2024 will be worse than now. Now the "sheeple" believe what we, the "mad conspiracy theorists", told them since a while and they didn´t want to hear.

Fun fact is that the masses (only listening to the in line public broadcasters and reading the in line newspapers) are still quiet except in eastern Germany. Because there they have a lot of people left who witnessed the GDR live and can remember how it was and are able to see where we are heading to now again.Only that this time it´s not brown, it´s not red, this time it´s painted green.

These amateur actors called politicians tell us to freeze, to starve, to wear two pullovers and instead of taking a shower we should use washcloth, they tell us we should follow corona measures but are seen and photographed all the time how they break these rules that are obviously only made for the peasants, rules for thee but not for me. These oath breakers don´t have to freeze, they don´t have to starve, they don´t lose their jobs. Ok, aybe their heads this winter when it gets dark and cold, the presstitutes formally put us in the mood for blackouts since a few weeks. And from report to report it becomes more and more drastic. Like being prepared for 72hrs blackouts and stuff. We know how they use the presstitues for the propaganda, they lead us slowly to the abyss and then push us down into the abyss.

And i bet 99,99% of the german day dreamers are not better prepared that owning an electrical heater now that is worth nothing if you can´t afford energy prices anymore or blackouts are made happen by "our" so called politicians. I don´t empty shelves where formerly candles were sold, i don´t see people buying stuff like spirit, dry food, food in cans, or whatever.



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 11:58 AM
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Do you put any blame on them for actually invading another country for really zero reasons?

Yes I did like a thousand times before but don't see a need to repeat it all the time just to virtue signal. It's #ing common sense, get real.




I don't give a crap about EU either, let their pompous asses suffer as they laughed at Trump for saying not to get in bed with Russia.

Oh so because you hate the EU and they disagreed with Trump about Russia, you are okay with millions of people suffering. Millions of people that didn't vote for EU nor were alive when their country joined?

Do you even differentiate between governments or people or is it all the same for you?




We see Russia's true face now, so yes a lot will need to change.

Who will need to change and how?



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: TDDAgain
Yes I did like a thousand times before but don't see a need to repeat it all the time just to virtue signal. It's #ing common sense, get real.


Then what is it that we are talking about now?





Oh so because you hate the EU and they disagreed with Trump about Russia, you are okay with millions of people suffering. Millions of people that didn't vote for EU nor were alive when their country joined?


I don't hate the EU, "don't care" means just what it means...Are millions really going to suffer, or is this just hyperbole you are pushing? I read that their energy cost will go up 200 EU more per month, well join the club EU as my cost of living has gone up a good deal more than that. That doesn't mean suffering and doesn't mean frozen bodies littering the streets, does it?



Do you even differentiate between governments or people or is it all the same for you?


I differentiate between hyperbole and reality. Germany will be paying more per month and Ukraine is facing Putin's rathe of destroying their electrical infrastructure for the coming winter. They also have millions displaced who have LOST EVERYTHING, 100s of towns and villages all destroyed, 10,000s of dead or permanently injured, massive lost of just normalized life with no end in the near future and you want to compare all the horrors that Russia is doing in Ukraine to Germans paying more per month for energy?



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 12:31 PM
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Then what is it that we are talking about now?

Your incapability to understand that it's possible to look at things neutral. That it isn't like Russia = bad and everyone else is faultless and did everything right.

I think that's the main reason for a lot of here. Unless you sing the same song, how dare one disagrees with propaganda from the west. Must be a Russian war monger.

The same is true for some Russia advocates here that let no bad word about Russia go unexplained how it's actually the west. You too run a similar MO when you state that you want the EU suffer because they laughed at Trump, just saying.

I refuse to be a partisan hack and therefor I get flag from both sides. Once you play devils advocate people loose their # because they do not remember past conversations or statements. And I refuse to write a disclaimer everytime.




I don't hate the EU, "don't care" means just what it means...Are millions really going to suffer, or is this just hyperbole you are pushing?

When the EU suffers, the people belonging to it suffer to. There are hundreds of million people living in the EU so millions will suffer. This isn't hyperbole.



I read that their energy cost will go up 200 EU more per month. That doesn't mean suffering and doesn't mean frozen bodies littering the streets, does it?

People already suffer, go read DerBeobachter's post. 200€ on top of the 150-300€ monthly amounts to like a third of what most people earn after taxes monthly. Substract another 400-1000€ for rent or house rates and you now have 200€ per month per family left for food, water, clothes, fuel (!). Yes people are going to suffer. When you can't afford to drive to work at the end of the month you have a big problem. And it's happening left and right already. Currently it's lower than the media wants you to believe (as always) but prognoses are not looking good. Read Beobachter's post.





I differentiate between hyperbole and reality. Germany will be paying more per month and Ukraine is facing Putin's rathe of destroying their electrical infrastructure for the coming winter. They also have millions displaced who have LOST EVERYTHING, 100s of towns and villages all destroyed, 10,000s of dead or permanently injured, massive lost of just normalized life with no end in the near future and you want to compare all the horrors that Russia is doing in Ukraine to Germans paying more per month for energy?

I ignore the hyperbole comment because I just explained to you it isn't hyperbole but logic consequence of your statement how you wish the EU to suffer.

You compare two different situations. I know they are connected but you can not weight up dying people and consequences put upon people. Of course Ukrainians are suffering a lot more and death count is uncompareable to what we will face. What you just brought up is called a "killer argument".

Because it not only is designed to shut up the other one, it also kills the conversation because it introduces moral that can not be measured or weighted up. So what you are saying basically is that a dying person in Ukraine suffers more than a dying person elsewhere because of the circumstances.

But death is death and suffering is suffering. The former is final and most often a consequence of the latter. Do you really want to weight up suffering against suffering when the result is death?



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

Then what is it that we are talking about now?


I don't hate the EU, "don't care" means just what it means...Are millions really going to suffer, or is this just hyperbole you are pushing? I read that their energy cost will go up 200 EU more per month, well join the club EU as my cost of living has gone up a good deal more than that. That doesn't mean suffering and doesn't mean frozen bodies littering the streets, does it?


I totally get the above. My energy bills went up almost 400 now, received the new calculations this morning. That is A LOT of money! I am personally not going to eat less, or freeze because of it, and that is mostly due to the fact that both me and my husband have an income. (I will however pay more attention to my electricity use) The only thing I complain about is that I can't turn on the heat at work this winter
So what you wrote above, I basically wrote the same thing in a post two months ago. But now I hear people I know personally, and customers, ( mostly elder people, or singles) say that they hardly made it to the end of the month before the crisis, and now they are drowning. They can't pay the big bills, so it's just a matter of time before their electricity is cut off. It's the people that already struggled before, who will be literally in the cold this winter. And all over Europe they are with millions.

We are starting to see tragedies. Just this week a mother and her daughter died because they tried to heat their living room with a BBQ. Others caused fires when they tried alternative heating methods they saw on tiktok, like the flower pot heater with candles under it. Another one set fire to his kitchen when he wanted to heat the house with the oven and cooking stove, lot's of co poisonings as well... or fires when ppl start to use chimneys that haven't been used in years to burn wood. And not only wood, a lot started to burn their garbage because the price of wood is going insane aswell
... and it's not even that cold yet. It's not even winter!

The government did take actions and spend millions already, but it's not helping much for those at the edge of society,
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posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: KindraLabelle2

I totally get the above. My energy bills went up almost 400 now, received the new calculations this morning. That is A LOT of money! I am personally not going to eat less, or freeze because of it, and that is mostly due to the fact that both me and my husband have an income. (I will however pay more attention to my electricity use) The only thing I complain about is that I can't turn on the heat at work this winter
So what you wrote above, I basically wrote the same thing in a post two months ago. But now I hear people I know personally, and customers, ( mostly elder people, or singles) say that they hardly made it to the end of the month before the crisis, and now they are drowning. They can't pay the big bills, so it's just a matter of time before their electricity is cut off. It's the people that already struggled before, who will be literally in the cold this winter. And all over Europe they are with millions.


I get it, what does 70% of America that just makes ends meet do today when all of a sudden they are now 20% underwater? Germany needs to offset the cost to help people through their issues. I being an American say fix it at the government level and get you population through the winder at whatever cost it takes the government there to offset what people may not afford today.



We are starting to see tragedies. Just this week a mother and her daughter died because they tried to heat their living room with a BBQ. Others caused fires when they tried alternative heating methods they saw on tiktok, like the flower pot heater with candles under it. Another one set fire to his kitchen when he wanted to heat the house with the oven and cooking stove, lot's of co poisonings as well... or fires when ppl start to use chimneys that haven't been used in years to burn wood. And not only wood, a lot started to burn their garbage because the price of wood is going insane aswell
... and it's not even that cold yet. It's not even winter!


Being a Boomer... There is a lot of Darwinism going on there. If people are weak, and can not handle a small change in their life then Darwin takes over. Where did this happen?

In EU, the governments needs to fix it at their level and not just say, well you will need to pay more or die.


In the end ALL OF THIS is because Russia decided to invade another country expecting it would take a week to do it and EU and the rest of the world would just sit back and let them do it. Well they didn't and the rest of the world didn't just sit back... sucks all the way around, but we need to keep focus on who started it all for all of this to happen.
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