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NATO to hold nuclear deterrence exercise as Russia rages at Ukraine

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posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus



Well that's democracy isn't it? Its whatever the powers that be say it is.


How's that any sort of answer to the question?

Its not even a "D-" thats flat "F" no two ways about it.



I witnessed in official democratic governmental capacity the annexation of occupied territories, that's all I can tell you.


The majority of the rest of the civilized world would seem to disagree with you myself included and hence the UN response.



Do you know of some other way to corroborate the data... please do tell


Any data returned from supposed referendums held in a warzone only partially occupied cannot possibly be considered valid or be ratified, especially so when they claim 96% approval ratings.

As anyone with half a brain can clearly establish.

You are simply being obtuse now iamthevirus.



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: iamthevirus

Try this?

faroutmagazine.co.uk...


404

NOTHING FOUND

IT SEEMS WE CAN'T FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

PERHAPS SEARCHING CAN HELP

Maybe an upload to the image section of the site will do? that works for me.



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus

Did your caps lock key get stuck mate? LoL

The problem appears to be on your end not ours.



That's what you are after above.

Probably enabling a VPN will help with content you cannot initially view.
edit on 15-10-2022 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake

The majority of the rest of the civilized world


Prove it...

Are you expecting me to follow a mainstream narrative from a select group of Globalist elite powerbrokers because they said so?

I guess polls of the people have been conducted all over including China and India and wherever the civilized world may be.

Are you forgetting this is ATS?

I have to openly admit to you before we go any further that I am anti-Globalist elite.



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus




Prove it...

Are you expecting me to follow a mainstream narrative from a select group of Globalist elite powerbrokers because they said so?


The UN already did via the results in condemnation of Russia annexing Ukrainian provinces.

www.theguardian.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.reuters.com...




I guess polls of the people have been conducted all over including China and India and wherever the civilized world may be.

Can you post links to these "China and India" polls?



Are you forgetting this is ATS?


Why would i, it tells us so in the top left corner of the site page. LoL



I have to openly admit to you before we go any further that I am anti-Globalist elite.


And how is that relevant?

You do however seem like a big Putin fan.

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posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:34 PM
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Good on Russia for bombing the s# out of all the Ukraine cities.

If there is evidence of voting irregularities, like for instance with the US president election, then I'm sure people can submit the evidence to the relevant authorities.



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: baggy7981

Were the US presidential elections held in an active war zone and contested area?

Did they return 96% bull crap results?

Nope.

And how's it "Good on Russia for bombing the s# out of all the Ukraine cities" considering the cities are full of civilian men women and children?
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posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

I am terribly sorry, I do not support a global democracy... however I do support internal democratic processes.

I am not a Socialist, Globalist nor a Communist.

Now if this was China a Communist Party ruled society or a Religofascist society which done this I would have doubts and it would warrant further investigation or undoing.

Family BBQ is calling my name, bye bye for now.




posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 12:53 PM
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I am terribly sorry, I do not support a global democracy... however I do support internal democratic processes.


And that's what you are claiming Putin did in Ukraine? LoL

Well if you could simply illustrate as to how Putin held fair and legal referendums in heavily contested warzones that his forces only hold partial sway over that might be nice?

How do you hold referendums in places that you don't completely control, and how's that in any sort of way an "internal democratic process" if that's what you are claiming took place?



I am not a Socialist, Globalist nor a Communist.


Can't see how what you are is in any way relevant to what's going on in Ukraine or Putin's sham referendums.



Now if this was China a Communist Party ruled society or a Religofascist society which done this I would have doubts and it would warrant further investigation or undoing.


Say what now?

That's just a word salad that means nothing in particular.



Family BBQ is calling my name, bye bye for now.


Have fun and try not to choke on your bull #.
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posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: baggy7981
Good on Russia for bombing the s# out of all the Ukraine cities.

If there is evidence of voting irregularities, like for instance with the US president election, then I'm sure people can submit the evidence to the relevant authorities.


Your lack of humanity is noted.

You like cities and civilians being bombed.

T&C's prevent me from saying anything else.



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

English 2.0 it's an entirely new language and way of thought.

Out with the old, in with the new...

Say no to war, say no to one world government.

Individualism is complex.



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 10:44 PM
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posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 10:49 PM
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I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.



posted on Oct, 15 2022 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake

Probably enabling a VPN will help with content you cannot initially view.


Ahh I don't care about all that, it's a phone. I actually still write checks and I am proud of where I'm from, don't care if everyone knows my location, although obviously some people are embarrassed of that and feel the need to hide behind some kind of paid firewall or whatever that is.

/sorry about the all caps, that's was a cut & paste.

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posted on Oct, 16 2022 @ 06:48 AM
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Aye they make you say that in school in the morning do they not.

We used to get the lord's prayer.

Not quite sure how its relevant to Ukraine or Putin's antics through.



posted on Oct, 16 2022 @ 06:57 AM
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Ahh I don't care about all that, it's a phone.


A VPN will 9 times out of 10 let you view info and sites that are not made available in your area.

Handy little tools and apps really.



I actually still write checks and I am proud of where I'm from.


I've not seen anyone use a check in donkeys, but whatever floats your boat.

As to being proud of where you are from, good for you, so are the Ukrainians.



although obviously some people are embarrassed of that and feel the need to hide behind some kind of paid firewall or whatever that is.


Embarrassed to use a VPN, why may i ask?

A lot of VPN are free to use and without a pay wall.

Firewalls prevent malicious attacks, VPNs only protect the data from where the network connection was created and does not protect your system from malware or viruses per say.

Just possibly something worth knowing before making comments like the above.



/sorry about the all caps, that's was a cut & paste.


Cool.
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posted on Oct, 16 2022 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Is that something I enable in the phone? it's pretty much all default settings and it's a Samsung browser app... I didn't even bother downloading a third party browser because the built in one seems to work best/fastest, I'm sure there's some trick there that they're using like when I installed Chrome and Duck Duck Go.

The places I need already have my credit card info like Amazon Prime and Rockauto and a couple other sites but I actually have a separate card that's used exclusively for online transactions and I have it setup where I get a text with every purchase or any time the card is accessed. I pay my bills which come in the mail old-fashioned, utilities, insurance stuff like that... it's just how I am used to doing it and it's reminiscent.

Ya know we still leave Christmas gifts and stuff for the mailman come holiday season, we've had the same guy for like 20 years, I'm just traditional fella in a lot of aspects still.



posted on Oct, 16 2022 @ 08:04 AM
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Is that something I enable in the phone?


You would get a VPN from your apps store or by downloading a APK file.

They are quite handy, only thing is you don't get the same sorts of DL speeds when they are active, or at least thats been my experience of the software. You turn them on and off as applicable.

I use Chrome myself iamthevirus.

Sounds nice tranquil and peaceful where you hail from iamthevirus, same here outside of the major cities.
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posted on Oct, 16 2022 @ 08:35 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: iamthevirus

Aye they make you say that in school in the morning do they not.

We used to get the lord's prayer.

Not quite sure how its relevant to Ukraine or Putin's antics through.


I was just trying to convey a better understanding of the American mindset, the Individual is Indivisible.

“Individualism, the love of enterprise, and the pride in personal freedom have been deemed by Americans not only their choicest, but [their] peculiar and exclusive possession.”

Individualism, Political and social philosophy that emphasizes individual freedom. Modern individualism emerged in Britain with the ideas of Adam Smith and Jeremy Bentham, and the concept was described by Alexis de Tocqueville as fundamental to the American temper.
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posted on Oct, 16 2022 @ 08:39 AM
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I was just trying to convey a better understanding of the American mindset


At the present time and moment, im going to have to go with divided right down the middle.

Same to a similar predicament this side of the pond to be honest.




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