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America backed the crazies in Ukraine. There was no one else this time.

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posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: purplemer



For all the money and kit. UKraine did not stop the missle attacks at essential infrastructure.


But they have, I'm sure I read somewhere that its estimated that around 60% of the missiles and drones launched by Russia are being shot down before they reach their intended targets.



An element of restraint has been used by the Russias and that in part> regiment in Donbass now fighting along side Russia


If Russia had this mighty Army we keep on getting told about they would have marched right though Ukraine before NATO etc had a chance to arm and supply Ukraine.
That would have been the smart thing to do, certainly from a military point of view and probably from a humane point of view.
Certainly far less casualties on both sides and a far stronger bargaining position.

The FACT they didn't suggests one of two things; Putin wanted this long, drawn out affair or the Russian Army is incapable of achieving a meaningful victory.



Special Operations is now nearly over.


What, with the Russian Army retreating with its tail between its legs?

To be honest I don't think Ukraine are capable of forcing Russia out anytime soon.
I think what we are seeing could possibly be yet another long, drawn out affair that bit by bit drains the resources of both sides.
Another Afghanistan or Iraq.
Another pointless and senseless war with no real justifiable aim or cause.



Putin did exactly what he said on the box and will continue to do so.


Which particular box?
He's trotted out that many lame excuses and reasons to try and justify the invasion.
A scattergun approach if ever I've seen one.

My biggest concern is that he actually carries out his repeated threat to use nuclear weapons - limited or not.



Dont you find it funny how the west is willing to collapse Europe to free a people that where having genocide committed on them.


Appeasement does not work.



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

The history of Europe is just a litany of one country invading another going as far back as history does. Nothing has changed, so history will keep doing its thing.



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Look at the big picture Carpy, not just the BBC news.It's your pension paying for all this.



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

Can't disagree with that....but doesn't mean we shouldn't keep on trying.🍻
To be fair though, its not really unique to Europe....its been pretty much the same the world over.

Pretty sad really isn't it.



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: ScepticScot

Apparently, the sirens in Ukraine are going off again as a new wave of missiles hit infrastructure.



Remember how some claimed that Russia would be running out of missiles, ammo? yet Russia has plenty of resources that could last for decades.

It appears NATO/US war crazes are getting a bit nervous.


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posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake



America and NATO are attempting to help Ukraine defeat a Russian invasion.

America/NATO arent attempting to help Ukraine defeat a Russia. They are helping in every way possible to start off World War as much as they can.

While they are using Ukraine to do so agaisnt Russia.


NATO recently seems to be getting a bit desperate and not on a winning side..



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: vNex92



America/NATO arent attempting to help Ukraine defeat a Russia. They are helping in every way possible to start off World War as much as they can.


I think you may find that's your man Putin and his chums that's started invasions and war not America or NATO.



While they are using Ukraine to do so agaisnt Russia.


You reap what you sow and Russia are the one in the wrong place getting their arse kicked.



NATO recently seems to be getting a bit desperate and not on a winning side..


And yet its your man Putin and Russia threatening to unleash nukes.

If that don't scream desperation and not sure what does.
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posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, is the definition of insanity. Usually, these conflicts were generational, but for some reason, it's been a couple of generations since the last major conflict. So like everything else in nature this time when the drought breaks, and the rainfall goes back to average it will be a real storm. That's my opinion for what it's worth. To survive it unscathed you have to find a little Shangrila-like Basque country.



posted on Oct, 13 2022 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake



I think you may find that's your man Putin and his chums that's started invasions and war not America or NATO.


Not very familiar with US foreign policy now are ya?

In this case, we have to go back to the US led coup in 2014 to even begin framing russias invasion.



You reap what you sow and Russia are the one in the wrong place getting their arse kicked.


Agreed but why is ukraine absolved of the same condemnation?


And yet its your man Putin and Russia threatening to unleash nukes.



Got a quote? Bet you dont. Im sure youll find allusions and i can also post biden and zelensky doing the exact same.



If that don't scream desperation and not sure what does.


How about globetrotting and begging? Desperation or na?



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: JinMI



Not very familiar with US foreign policy now are ya?

In this case, we have to go back to the US led coup in 2014 to even begin framing russias invasion.


Why would i be familiar with US foreign policy not being in the USA?

Not everybody is you see. LoL

In this instance, America invaded nobody whilst Putin and his ilk invaded Ukraine.

And under the guise of lies and false pretense no less.



Agreed but why is ukraine absolved of the same condemnation?


When Ukraine invades Russian soil ile condemn them.



Got a quote? Bet you dont. Im sure youll find allusions and i can also post biden and zelensky doing the exact same.




How about some video where Putin clearly states his intentions and says he's not bluffing where the use of nukes is concerned?

Capitol "B" in "biden" by the way, same with a "Z" in "zelenskyy", and you're missing an apostrophe in whatever "youll" amount's too.



How about globetrotting and begging? Desperation or na?


Say what now, who's globetrotting or begging?

What a lot of nonsensical twaddle from you.

The only person begging, or rather demanding that is, would be Putin regarding more troops and equipment to bolster, support, and try and turn the tide of his piss-poor failed invasion because his forces are in retreat.


You do realize there are more people fleeing Russia right now than there were in the invasion force to begin with.

Where do you imagine they are off to and why?
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posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 06:06 AM
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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: andy06shake



America and NATO are attempting to help Ukraine defeat a Russian invasion.

America/NATO arent attempting to help Ukraine defeat a Russia. They are helping in every way possible to start off World War as much as they can.

While they are using Ukraine to do so agaisnt Russia.


NATO recently seems to be getting a bit desperate and not on a winning side..


I think you mean stave off world war


And remember who started this and can end it any day he chooses. Except he won't until he has totally and utterly humiliated and destroyed Russia. Why can you Russians not see the Great Traitor for whom he really is?

And NATO is certainly not getting desperate at all. NATO hasn't even got involved yet! If they did, to be fair, the war would be over very quickly though. Except NATO doesn't start wars and has no desire to fight Russia.



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

I don't watch TV.

But when people can't heat their homes or feed their kids because corrupt govt turds would rather sacrifice them on the alter of the great reset....well. We'll see how it goes.



Have any evidence that Brits 'can't heat their homes or feed their kids?


Also fake russian propaganda.



It's all over British news about how people can't afford food and heat.

Now I know you talk out of your rear patriotgames4u.



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Aye but it has been that way for quite a few poor sods since long before austerity, Brexit, COVID or Putin's failed invasion of Ukraine materialized.

Do you not have poor people, problems associated with poverty, or a homeless situation to contend with in Russia?

Hardly a bed of Roses here in the UK Nexttimemaybe, but we will get by and make do just fine ta very much.

And all without the invasion of our neighbors or threats to use nukes.



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 07:01 AM
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posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 07:47 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Hey how things. I have a very different take on whats happening. That being said we all know the first causality of war is truth.

Denazifying the Ukraine is talking about the removal of deepstate actors that implemented a puppet government with the help of Soros. The country of pivotal importance to the NWO. Hece the amount of money being thrown at it. It has close ties with the CIA cartel. The country cannot fall or these crimes will be exposed. Paramilitaty groups have been funded to target certain areas causing conflict that has killed in the region of 30k over the last few years. These areas the areas now annexed by Russia.

Ukraine has become a massive human trafficking hub (organ harvesting etc) and deepstate money laundering. Hence the lax crypto laws and the huge amount of crypto mining in the country. Ilegal biolabs (lots in taiwan too. - guess whats going to be happening there.

The ties with the Biden regime are very strong with his son on the energy boards along with other known high profiles.

Putin is not after invading the Ukraine and it is only know that he has chosen to hit vital infrastructure. This occurred in response the bridge being blown up in Russia.

Special operations are occurring in other countries too and not just being carried out by Russian forces.

The virus / energy crisis / WEF / Mi6 corruption / election issues / illegal wars and many other events you are seeing in the world and linked. News narrative will and is breaking down.


Redpill events incoming.



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: purplemer

My goodness.

Have you not noticed that your so called "special operation". Ie a War, has gone disastrously wrong?

For shame.

What are you like?!!!



What am i like eh :-)

Happy day to you!

Special Operations may well turn into a war yes.

Lets hope not.

May there be peace.. peace and peace.



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

The American defence budget tells you all you need to know about reality.



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: purplemer




Special Operations may well turn into a war yes.


Turned into a war on the 1st day when Ukrainian forces refused to capitulate and roll over to invading Russian Federation forces.

Turned into a failed invasion on the 3rd day when Putin's ilk failed to achieve their military objectives.

The peace part I'm all for but Putin will need to take his forces back to Russia and come to the negotiation table for that to happen.
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posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: purplemer


Hey how things.


I'm fine thanks, hope all is good with you?

I've never said Zelensky's regime was perfect.
Anyone who has done even the slightest bit of research knows this.

But they certainly aren't in the same league as Putin's when it comes to corruption and repression.

But that's not really the point; the bottom line is Ukraine posed no realistic threat whatsoever.....yet still Putin chose to invade.
He has since tried every excuse imaginable to try and justify the death and destruction his actions have caused.

And anyone who doesn't recognise that if we allow Putin to bully his way over Ukraine it will only be a matter of time before he does it somewhere else is simply ignoring the many lessons that history tries to teach us.
Appeasement simply does not work.

🍺



posted on Oct, 14 2022 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Appeasement works both ways, like"Why are you surrounding my country with nukes and NATO members when you said you wouldn't?"



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