The universe is simulated

We have gone on intuitive instinct in believing that our senses are reality. That works well enough to navigate and survive, but that is still all in our minds. However, sensory perception evolved in reaction to reality. Solids created our sense of touch, light created our optical senses, movement and gravity created our sense of motion, and the sequence of events created our sense of time. Life reacted to outside stimulus by sensing it, even if those sensations are nothing like the true nature of reality. So I believe that reality exists "outside the cave" of the mind but our concepts of it are based on how reality continues to punch us in the face on a daily basis.

a reply to: neoholographic
Another great thread Neo
I like the scope of your work -it fits your username.
Just what the heck is reality?

My thinking is that our reality/spacetime itself IS consciousness in the form of a wave/vibrations-the whole thing,the whole universe.
What we percieve as "our"consciousness is actually from outside ourselves-we are able to experience it as though it is in our own head-But there are certain things that we do which can "push out" our own conscious area or our own "field of experience."

Something as simple as driving a car/riding a bike shows us we can expand our field of consciousness so that we are no longer conscious of being "only"within a human body-our parameters of consciousness have now expanded-we feel the wheels on the road,the road itseelf,the movement of various parts of the car/bike.
We have expanded our field outside of our physical body.
If you really focus,you can feel as though your bike/car is part of that same thing we call consciousness.

Through training-meditaion or similar focus techniques,we can push our consciousness outwards further..and further.

My thinking is that for us to be abe to do that is in some way proof that we are not a "seperate"entity walking around in our environment-well we are,but we are also a tiny part of the field of consicousness which IS all things.

As usual,not sure if I am explaining my thoughts very well..

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: neoholographic

Materialists and atheists are the ones living in Plato's cave?
I couldn't read on after such an utterly ironic statement from a believer.

Self absorbed and uninformed generalisation much?!

Neo has an obsession with "materialists and atheists". Sometimes I think, more so than his own beliefs.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

It's not just multiple, but based on my understanding of it it's sprawling forever toward an infinite number.

That's interesting, recently I had a talk in the park, the random guy was saying that Space expanding is the branches of possibilities sprawling, and matter are manifested branches that can't sprawl anymore. this lack of sprawling out would be felt as a relative force similar to gravity. If everything moves away it could feel like you're moving towards. Ever sat in the train when you thaught you were moveing, but it was the one on the next platform moving...
Once an infinite possibilities is manifested it is fixed in time and space, while everything around keeps sprawling possibilities.
The number is not infinite but fractal, the unit is always the same just the scale is diffrent.
We were talking for about 2hours so this is a very broad brush.pretty out there, if you compare it to the accepted model. Never the less I found it a very interesting thought experiment.

when I hear scientists talking about simulation theory, it sounds like they're coming to terms with the concepts in creationism/intelligent design but can't bring themselves to agree so they swap out the bearded guy in the sky for a computer program. but who is programming that computer?

a reply to: neoholographic

THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY PERCEIVE SO THEY CAN'T SEE THE REALITY OUTSIDE OF THEIR PERCEPTION.

The question has to be asked. What reality exists outside of our perceptions, who created us to experience what we perceive and not the reality that exists and why are we trapped in this limited perception simulation? Let's look at what science says.

Didn't each of us in turn create perceptions in each other? Didn't Jesus say "If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit" - but that walk by the spirit was mostly rejected and even nowadays nobody really knows how to do it - because our religious teachers don't know how to do it - because nobody really 'got it'. Theologians still argue amongst themselves as to how to interpret the teachings left to us. Spiritualists follow different paths. Physicists' theories sometimes seem, to me, to be magic and spooky.

We are trapped in a limited perception because we are limited in flesh and mind - 'dust to dust' is where we all came from and where we all will return.

As for belief from a psychological perspective:

Accuracy of belief isn't our only cognitive goal. Our other goal is to validate our pre-existing beliefs, beliefs that we've been building block by block into a cohesive whole our entire lives. In the fight to accomplish the latter, confirmation bias and disconfirmation bias represent two of the most powerful weapons at our disposal, but simultaneously compromise our ability to judge ideas on their merits and the evidence for or against them.

www.psychologytoday.com...

So that's our confirmation bias and disconfirmation bias at work - the mind and emotions at work.

Figuring out the universal construct and purpose is a free for all.

Parhaps our universe could be classified as a "Natural Simulation".

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: neoholographic

What is the smallest state something can be in? How many times can you divide one grain of salt till it isn't salt anymore? I am curious about stuff like this that you are talking about. Thanks for the good read but I didn't have enough time today to look at every link you provided, because I am a retard the one with the banana I will have to check out

Brother, If you asked me that question I would tell you the smallest state is positive or negative electrical charge.

You can break salt, or any measurable quantity, down this way.

Ocean waves are not predominantly water flowing, a wave is water moving up and down.

The energy of a wave is passed from atom to atom through water and obeys the law of conservation of energy.

I’m not trying to say water doesn’t flow, just that the energy is from a different source.

Waves are produced by adding energy to the system, the characteristics of which are added to the whole but seperate from it unless a harmonic is hit on, at which time phenomenon such as rogue waves at sea occur or the energy attempts to transfer to another medium, ie. waves gaining height and mass as the energy is repurposed.


reply to: kwakakev

a reply to: neoholographic

Simulation is just a word, our words are not that great for describing things.

I have seen it many times, the best i can do is to say that its a one thing, that only appears as many things.

All is one in Yog Sothoth.

It a catch twenty two of the mind making up reality, or the reality making up the mind. Like Solipsism being one half of the answer and then just to have it bulldozed by jealous gnostic God, called Efil(an Death).

Tbh, the Simulation theory is a simplification, meaning it behaves like a illusion, or a simulator. Thing is, it simulated via the mind, but the mind is only half of it, while the rest is just simple “Is”. Oddly enough, I’ve heard when it comes to physics an quantum physics, you have to forget one or the other, or maybe it my short attention span, running a 1000 miles a second(sad thing, semantically it ain’t far from the truth).

We are sheltered. Ingest a moderate dose of a powerful psychedelic and you’ll see what’s really doing on around you.

originally posted by: Dalamax

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: neoholographic

What is the smallest state something can be in? How many times can you divide one grain of salt till it isn't salt anymore? I am curious about stuff like this that you are talking about. Thanks for the good read but I didn't have enough time today to look at every link you provided, because I am a retard the one with the banana I will have to check out

Brother, If you asked me that question I would tell you the smallest state is positive or negative electrical charge.

You can break salt, or any measurable quantity, down this way.

I still don't understand solid states, is it a mis match of atomic lattices that don't allow me to pass my hands through a desk? I not the asshole but I am curious what is the smallest and the biggest form of solid matter

a reply to: neoholographic

If that is the case , then Who do I See about doing a Little Editing of My Personal Simulation ? The One I got was a Jip ! ...........*)

a reply to: Q33323


Yeah , I can Dig that Man.............

originally posted by: neoholographic
Science clearly shows us that the universe is simulated. This isn't the simulation hypothesis, this is much deeper. This has nothing to do with computers. I think science shows us we live in Plato's Cave. Materialist and Atheist can't see anything outside of the cave of 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time. They're trapped in the prison of a limited perception of reality. In other words:

Every one can only be their own true God though. Because everyone's reality differs based on their physiological makeup. No two people could be completely the same based on natural law. If someone kills someone... they are passing judgment, nothing and no one else's thought would operate your neuron activity, convert it to physical form, and commit said act. And our actions are first computed via thought, consciously or sub-consciously. This based rule of natural law could only mean one thing... thought is the one true God and every man's thought is his own.

*I'm speaking strictly existentially of our physical form and how it interacts with our own specific experienced reality

Everything you see with your eyes is first a thought... Your thought. Your viewed colors, your hindering limitations. Your own reality your thought converts.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
We have gone on intuitive instinct in believing that our senses are reality. That works well enough to navigate and survive, but that is still all in our minds. However, sensory perception evolved in reaction to reality. Solids created our sense of touch, light created our optical senses, movement and gravity created our sense of motion, and the sequence of events created our sense of time. Life reacted to outside stimulus by sensing it, even if those sensations are nothing like the true nature of reality. So I believe that reality exists "outside the cave" of the mind but our concepts of it are based on how reality continues to punch us in the face on a daily basis.

Every prayer we do is actually to ourselves, the one we call God in our heads, our own thought and perception. Meaning prayer is actually meditation and no different from one God belief to another. They are all a projection subconsciously to our own thought (our own God). This is actually why the Schrodinger's cat concept is real... The cat isn't dead until thought computes it. Apply this to the "the big bang". Every day we see... We create it in thought first, the big bang continuously happens with every neuron motion. Continuously. We can't experience anything of life without our thought first beholding that specific reality, this is why the bible says "God is everything".

"God created man in his own image..." Is not speaking literally. There's no great Being somewhere in the ether playing with his playdoh and making stuff. Thought first creates an image in our head and no two heads are alike.

But.... Its far more complex since we are all actually ONE. Everything is connected via dark matter. And everything is God. Just because space/time is perceived on specific natural laws and our very own experiences... Doesn't mean THAT is the true reality.

Because with thought... Our own, as a species, has been modifying everything we are apart of for thousands of years. You just have to view everything existentially and without bias... From a "grand scheme of things" perspective.

The Universe is very, very real.

Our perceptions of the Universe is what's simulated.

Our brains are just bioorganic computers, subject to latency and sensory processing of the Reality of our environment.

As a result, your experience may vary.

originally posted by: Lysergic

you really did touch the banana didn't you, you hound =D