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Fast track NATO membership For Ukraine Like now!

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posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Putin was a low-level KGB agent for a short time. He was not a career KGB guy.

That's propaganda.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 05:48 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ScepticScot


Did Putin invade?

On February 22, 2022, no, he did not.

I repeat, on February 22, 2022, were the Russian forces in Russia or Ukraine?

It's not a hard question.

TheRedneck


He invaded on the 24th.

Do you think the troops were on the border for a training exercise on the 22nd?



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 05:49 AM
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a reply to: gortex

Ah, yes, Mr. Know-it-all No-pants again! If he says it, it must be true.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot


He invaded on the 24th.

The 24th comes after the 22nd, right?

So before the 24th, they were on Russian soil. Is that correct?


Do you think the troops were on the border for a training exercise on the 22nd?

I don't know; I don't spend a lot of time analyzing where all the Russian forces inside Russia are.

Do you know for a fact they weren't? I wasn't aware you had insight into Russian military maneuvers. Hot line to the Kremlin?

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 05:57 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ScepticScot


He invaded on the 24th.

The 24th comes after the 22nd, right?

So before the 24th, they were on Russian soil. Is that correct?


Do you think the troops were on the border for a training exercise on the 22nd?

I don't know; I don't spend a lot of time analyzing where all the Russian forces inside Russia are.

Do you know for a fact they weren't? I wasn't aware you had insight into Russian military maneuvers. Hot line to the Kremlin?

TheRedneck


The cancellation of nord stream 2 was in reaction to Rusdian actions.

Actions that subsequent events show without doubt to be aggressive.

However I accept your admission to be unaware the events leading up to the invasion. Maybe a little more research would help you.



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot


The cancellation of nord stream 2 was in reaction to Rusdian actions.

And those actions were having Russian troops inside Russia.

I have to ask again, does the UK have military troops inside the UK? If so, you might want to check with Germany to make sure that's OK.


Actions that subsequent events show without doubt to be aggressive.

So the pipeline was cancelled in response to what was going to happen two days later. I thought you just said it was in response to Russian troops having the audacity to be inside Russia. Which is it?

Causal universe...

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ScepticScot


The cancellation of nord stream 2 was in reaction to Rusdian actions.

And those actions were having Russian troops inside Russia.

I have to ask again, does the UK have military troops inside the UK? If so, you might want to check with Germany to make sure that's OK.


Actions that subsequent events show without doubt to be aggressive.

So the pipeline was cancelled in response to what was going to happen two days later. I thought you just said it was in response to Russian troops having the audacity to be inside Russia. Which is it?

Causal universe...

TheRedneck


Do you think there was no preparation for the invasion?

What was happening was obvious long before the first tank crossed the border.



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:09 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ScepticScot


Did Putin invade?

On February 22, 2022, no, he did not.

I repeat, on February 22, 2022, were the Russian forces in Russia or Ukraine?

It's not a hard question.

TheRedneck


He invaded on the 24th.

Do you think the troops were on the border for a training exercise on the 22nd?


It strikes me as odd, why people would still try to point out the actions of the smaller, somewhat reactionary player in this game of escalations with NATO participation.

OSCE reports surge in number of explosions in east Ukraine


In Donetsk region, the SMM recorded 703 ceasefire violations, including 332 explosions. In the previous 24 hours, it recorded 579 ceasefire violations in the region.
In Luhansk region, the Mission recorded 1,224 ceasefire violations, including 1,149 explosions. In the previous 24 hours, it recorded 333 ceasefire violations in the region.

OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM) Daily Report 41/2022 issued on 22 February 2022

Good thing we'll get another military state addition with warmongering Bandera-Boys for the NATO, and who would they be without US?



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:11 AM
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a reply to: Insurrectile

Pretty sure it was Russia who invaded.

Let me check.
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Yep definitely Russia.



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

You saw the OSCE report? Do we still agree on the fact, that roughly a thousand explosions, and over 300 violations of the ceasefire, would definitely count as an invasion as well?
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posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: ScepticScot

You saw the OSCE report? Do we still agree on the fact, that roughly a thousand explosions, and over 300 violations of the ceasefire, would definitely count as an invasion as well?


Well you could count Russia's support for the rebels as an earlier proxy invasion by Russia.
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posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: Insurrectile


This was after russia invaded in 2014, correct?

Ukraine has a right to defend itself from foreign invasions.



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:28 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Putin was a low-level KGB agent for a short time. He was not a career KGB guy.

That's propaganda.

TheRedneck




Once kgb, always kgb.

Always was and still is.

Doesn't matter what his business card says.



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Well, they were actually in Belarus and Ukraine, if you count Crimea as Ukrainian, which most of the world still does, as well as Russia.

Technicalities though at that point. Where they were didn't matter, where they were going did. IF they had stayed were they were, none of us wouldn't being having this conversation.

And Putin was reportedly a Lt. Colonel in the KGB in East Germany and spent 16 years with them. Not exactly "low level".



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Believe what you want, the Russians didn't start an "Anti Terror Operation" to suppress legit demands for democratic participation. At least not in the Ukraine. That's why we've got the Minsk-Agreement, maybe someone should've made sure the Ukraine holds up their part?


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posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:45 AM
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originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: ScepticScot

Believe what you want, the Russians didn't start an "Anti Terror Operation" to suppress legit demands for democratic participation. At least not in the Ukraine. That's why we've got the Minsk-Agreement, maybe someone should've made sure the Ukraine holds up their part?





Are you saying that Ukraine doesn't have a right to defend itself from foreign invasion?




posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:46 AM
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originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: ScepticScot

Believe what you want, the Russians didn't start an "Anti Terror Operation" to suppress legit demands for democratic participation. At least not in the Ukraine. That's why we've got the Minsk-Agreement, maybe someone should've made sure the Ukraine holds up their part?



I don't think Russia is any position to lecture on keeping agreements.

en.m.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=the%20Soviet%20Union).-,Contents%20of%20the%20treaty,of%20States%2 0or%20international%20treaties.



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:48 AM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Ukraine will NEVER be a NATO member.....never.... the world WILL be destroyed before this ever happens.

a reply to: anonentity



Challenge Accepted



posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:51 AM
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originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Ukraine will NEVER be a NATO member.....never.... the world WILL be destroyed before this ever happens.

a reply to: anonentity



Challenge Accepted



Didn't RT say the exact same thing about a couple other new NATO countries 6 months ago?




posted on Oct, 1 2022 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Are you saying Russia isn't?


Russia's Defense Ministry announced on Monday that its forces destroyed two Ukrainian combat vehicles that violated the Russian state border earlier in the day.

Russia Destroys 2 Ukrainian Combat Vehicles, Killing 5 Intruders

Where was your Westphalian Sovereignty when you still had a point?
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