Gunman Shoots Enlistment Officer In Russian Draft Office "With Sawn-off Rifle" Amid Fury at Putin

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: Overseeall

There's no "military needs you" propaganda, no pictures of officials, no military banners or medals on the ways.. posted all over the walls to encourage support. Realisitically the decor of that building is nothing more then some dining room/living room that just had it's furniture moved.

As stated two rooms.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Looked like a community hall/center type affair to me.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

I intend to look over the video better when I get to my comp. Cause it's hard through my screen. As for saying camo it's because I seen that guy in camo elsewhere in another photo. It kinda flashed on me and I completely disregarded his current wear. (Happens sometimes.. and more often then not leads down some rabbit hole of truth.). But I have seen that boy before in green camo. So I will be looking for that picture/video. If I manage to find that exact guy in one of the green camo outfits posted in a "go ukraine go" video I will post it. His hair, eye color, and bone structure is what gave him away to me. That shade isn't a common color, and less then one% of the population has it.

I'm not suprised that something like this happen after the call up of Russian civillians and the rising tensions amid the demonstations and arrests.

a reply to: andy06shake

your right, being that it's in Siberia the town could be small and russia doesn't spend a lot of money in small towns. it may be a courthouse, public meeting hall used for different functions.

that's done all over the world not just in russia.

a reply to: BlackArrow

My point is it's a house not an enlistment office, distance doesn't matter. It's the size of two rooms.

By the way what kind of houses have stages and podiums as i forgot to ask?

Deleted - not arguing.

It does look like some sort of community hall or meeting hall in some kind of community centre/school with the podium, stage and those yellow chairs.

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Where were you when Ukraine was killing its own for 8 years.

Where were you , were you there ?

Silvio Berlusconi , Putin's mate , says that is fake news.

A narrative alleging the Ukrainian government was slaughtering Russian speakers in the east of the country was created by the media in Moscow, Mr Berlusconi told Italian TV.

He said the reporting, pushed by separatist forces and nationalist politicians in the Russian government, had left Mr Putin with no choice but to launch a limited invasion.

"Putin was pushed by the Russian population, by his party and by his ministers to invent this special operation," he said.
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At least 20 recruitment offices have been torched, and an enlistment officer was shot at point-blank range at a conscription centre in the Siberian region of Irkutsk.

There is not a big anti-draft movement yet, but the longer all this goes on, the greater the possibility of it happening.
news.sky.com...

a reply to: BlackArrow

So what kind of houses have stages and podiums?

And then there are the large support columns to consider.

Chances are its a community center BlackArrow and that's exactly the type of place that would be used or appropriated.

You seem like the type of fellow that would argue black is white all the same.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: andy06shake
All wars are unjust Andy, and every war has its casualties at home, unfortunately. Maybe if our leaders had to be on the front lines of wars they start, they wouldn't be so eager to fire the first shot, but that's unlikely to happen.

yep,

let the old men that start the wars,
fight the wars.

a reply to: andy06shake

www.msn.com... listment-office-reports-say/ar-AA12ftbw#image=AA12fD8b|8

Confirmed it's an "Enlistment office" Where's the military propaganda, ain't no town hall, ain't no community center.

A Russian man who was called up to fight in the war in Ukraine shot an official at a local enlistment office, multiple reports said.

The incident took place in the Siberian city of Ust-Ilimsk on Monday and was captured on video, according to The Guardian, Reuters, and independent Russian news outlet The Insider.

The video shows two military officials on stage in front of a group of new recruits who had been called up to fight in the ongoing war in Ukraine, The Insider reported.

Suddenly, a gunshot rings out and one of the officials collapses as everyone else runs out of the enlistment in panic, the video shows.

Last but not least he's coached his own name for the video.. I don't even know why this would even be a thing.. When China just sent a crapload of troops and equipment to Russia, about 10 days ago. So even though militarization is unpopular, I am pretty sure it's death to kill or attempt to kill an officer in that country. So dying in Ukraine or Dying in Russia, at least in Ukraine he would have a chance to survive. So *IF* this video is REAL, expect to see a firing squad take him out. They don't have the same rules we do, 'innocent until proven guilty, for them it's guilty until proven innocent'. Such a video guarantee's a firing squad execution.

So until the execution video for assaulting an officer hits live stream view (which if the video is real it will, as it will send a strong message to anyone else who resists). I will believe it is fake, because Putin would not let something like this slide. As not only would it further resistance, it would show severe weakness in his leadership.

Another thing I have noticed is depending on where you look despite it being the same story, the video shown here does not match what is being reported. There was not 'two officers' on stage in front of recruits. Those recruits were by the door and the closest man sitting on a chair by the wall, and only 1 man and the assaulter was on stage. So, by definition this story is falsified(fake), and exaggerated as it does not line up with the evidence shown in the video here. The only way they could have 'different' versions of the story is if there were multiple people recording it, and someone has a 'longer cut' to said video which was shown to a different reporter.

Again: Unless it was staged, and they can't keep the story straight, the chances of it just being fake propaganda is growing. Until I see more actual proof that this story is real. I will take it with a grain of salt, as I believe nothing that media posts. I take this view and stance based on the greatest reporters in history who have WARNED about accepting everything said on Media/tv.

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Russia plans to call up about 300,000 reservists - that is, people who have had military training and, Vladimir Putin stressed, have specialist skills needed in the Ukraine conflict. They will include many reserve officers, including some over 60, pulled in from retirement.

Russia could in theory mobilise some 25 million people for military service, but that is not yet being considered. Both President Putin and Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu stressed that conscripts would not be sent to fight in Ukraine.

Mr Shoigu said the extra troops were required to defend a front line stretching for some 1,000km (600 miles).

China supplying military aid/troops/equipment to russia.

your avatar is epic

that is all

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This was posted to the Telegraph Youtube page and shows how tensions are rising amongst the Russian people

a reply to: BlackArrow

I think you might find China is wanting to take a step back and distance themselves from Putin's antics these days, down to the fact that he keeps on threatening nuclear war.

He's wanting to destroy their customer base you see aka the West.

Any sort of military aid China would provide now comes with serious strings attached down to the fact that Russia is all back of the bus.

I don't imagine China is apt to provide Russia the life line you imagine BlackArrow, because they win ether way when we squabble, but not so if Putin destroys the world.

a reply to: andy06shake

Yeah, 10 days ago he supplied troops and equipment. After meeting with President Xi.

But here's the thing, Russia isn't the only country demanding nuclear war. Zelenski has demanded that the US preemptively strike Russia with nukes.

More on it on this forum, and what I think might actually be planned. If you scroll down you can find my post, but i've been keeping tabs on a LOT of crap. This isn't about Russia and Ukraine anymore, it never has been. Everything I said in that post below you can verify yourself. Including what is really happening.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I will add this one thing to that post though, when I wrote it I was unaware that Xi sent troops to Russia. With that said, I know Russia has a HUGE underground base that can easily support a couple million people. China on the other hand does not.

Everything isn't black and white.. People are getting caught up on the small potatoes they are missing the bigger picture. These things are far from what they appear. Please read the post I put down, other members who read it are actually starting to agree with me. Only warning to you is that it's long and well researched. You should be able to put the pieces of the puzzle together yourself with the bolded reminders alone, that is if you can remember.

a reply to: BlackArrow

Yeah, 10 days ago he supplied troops and equipment. After meeting with President Xi.

But here's the thing, Russia isn't the only country demanding nuclear war. Zelenski has demanded that the US preemptively strike Russia with nukes.

And just how sure of the that actually happening are you?

Not the meeting but the supply of troops and equipment.

I think you may find any troops and equipment China sends Russia's way are to do with participation in joint exercises which are not related to the current regional situation or at least that's what their ministry had to say on the matter or thereabouts in a statement.

Guys name is Volodymyr "Zelenskyy" by the way, also transliterated as "Zelensky" or "Zelenskiy".

I don't think Zelenskyy gets to demand who NATO nukes or who they don't.

Fact of the matter is if Ukraine had kept a few nukes of their own Putin would not even be chancing his arm with his piss poor failure of a ""Special Military Operation"".

Ive not got time to go skipping back to old post on other threads right now dealing with this one and trying to do a few other things at the same time im afraid.

Edit: So now its chinese hiding out in Russian secret underground bases that can accommodate millions???!!!

Seek help buddy or maybe you just came up with the plot line of the next Fallout game or Metro 4.

a reply to: BlackArrow

Yeah, 10 days ago he supplied troops and equipment. After meeting with President Xi.

Must try harder.

A video in the posts is grainy and looks as if it was taken with a cellphone camera. It shows a line of military vehicles driving down the road. Occasionally, civilian cars can be seen driving in the opposite direction. But there’s no evidence to support the claim that it shows a Chinese military convoy entering Ukraine.

Because the vehicles in the video were shot at an angle, it’s difficult to see some of the finer details. However, the sides of some of the military vehicles seem to display Chinese characters. But the passenger cars don’t seem to have Ukrainian license plates, which feature that nation's flag against a blue background.

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