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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: thethinkingman
According to Trump the primary reason to vax kids was to stop them being carriers, not to stop them being sick themselves.
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: thethinkingman
According to Trump the primary reason to vax kids was to stop them being carriers, not to stop them being sick themselves.
What is the current justification for it now that we know that Trump's information was based on lies about vaccine efficacy and prevention of transmission?
You keep posting this old debunked excuse because you can come up with no scientific justification.
Imagine an anti-Trump sycophant being reduced to using his debunked statements as a substitute for scientific data and logic. That's some desperation.
We always knew that the vax would REDUCE transmission to about 85 percent, not prevent it 100 percent.
you need to watch this!!
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originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies
So you carrying water for these psycho clowns now??
"We always knew" WE didn't know jack #. IF you were paying attention, you would have seen that all the heads at the CDC, and NIH, and WHO were spouting off about stopping transmission and arresting illness if you were vaxxed. They lied, and lied, and lied, and lied to cover their lies, and now it's just "we won't mention our lies and hope no one notices."
THEY didn't know #. They were saying what they said to convince a terrified public that their only way to not die from Covid was to get the shots.
There was no science in their claims at all. Just lies.
What benefits of BNT162b2 have been shown in studies? BNT162b2 has been studied in approximately 43,000 individuals 16 years of age and older who were equally allocated to the vaccine or a placebo. Those who received vaccination with BNT162b2 had a reduction in the rate of COVID-19 illness compared to those who received placebo (8 cases of COVID-19 illness in the vaccinated group compared to 162 cases in the placebo group). These results were observed 7 days following the second dose in study participants with no evidence of prior SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Vaccines are being hailed as the solution to the covid-19 pandemic, but the vaccine trials currently underway are not designed to tell us if they will save lives, reports Peter Doshi, Associate Editor at The BMJ today.
Several covid-19 vaccine trials are now in their most advanced (phase 3) stage, but what will it mean exactly when a vaccine is declared “effective”?
Many may assume that successful phase 3 studies will mean we have a proven way of keeping people from getting very sick and dying from covid-19. And a robust way to interrupt viral transmission.
Yet the current phase 3 trials are not actually set up to prove either, says Doshi. “None of the trials currently underway are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospitalisations, intensive care use, or deaths. Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus,” he writes.
He explains that all ongoing phase 3 trials for which details have been released are evaluating mild, not severe, disease - and they will be able to report final results once around 150 participants develop symptoms.
In Pfizer and Moderna’s trials, for example, individuals with only a cough and positive lab test would bring those trials one event closer to their completion.
Yet Doshi argues that vaccine manufacturers have done little to dispel the notion that severe covid-19 was what was being assessed. Moderna, for example, called hospitalisations a “key secondary endpoint” in statements to the media.
But Tal Zaks, Chief Medical Officer at Moderna, told The BMJ that their trial lacks adequate statistical power to assess that endpoint.
Part of the reason may be numbers, says Doshi. Because most people with symptomatic covid-19 infections experience only mild symptoms, even trials involving 30,000 or more patients would turn up relatively few cases of severe disease.
“Hospitalisations and deaths from covid-19 are simply too uncommon in the population being studied for an effective vaccine to demonstrate statistically significant differences in a trial of 30,000 people,” he adds. “The same is true regarding whether it can save lives or prevent transmission: the trials are not designed to find out.”
Seldom have I met a person with such superior abilities as yours that they can, through 4 or 5 interactions on a random forum, know EVERYTHING about the people they're interacting with.
I was worried about this virus becoming the next 1918 pandemic when I first started hearing about it in October of 2019,
There has never been a naturally occurring virus with such a variable genetic makeup, or such diversity in the ways it could attack the body and propagate itself.
also studied, in depth, everything I could get my hands on about natural anti-virals. As a result, when I caught covid in march of 2020, I had been on an anti-viral vitamin and supplement regimen for a couple months, so getting through it was more or less a walk in the park, I came through it with flying colors.
l. If you tell them to wear masks, they will. If you tell them to get a shot, they will.
I learned that as soon as the virus appeared, so did the shills.
What I have observed with you is that you are either: A. A paid shill or: B. you are terrified out of your mind that some of the stuff people like me post is true, and this "vaccine" is poison, and you're going to wake up to that reality some day.
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: MaxxAction
Zombies job is to downplay all negative reports with regards to the vax for as long as possible. The longer they can do this the longer the scam lasts. They will be here for a lot longer because everyone who has had it wants the reassurance that the negative science is not true. Then when convinced will probably have the booster. When this is over they will move on to climate change deniers.
Vaccines are the biggest scam and money maker ever invented, they make so much money that they can lobby the government agencies as a standing business model that works well. Health is a secondary consideration. www.bitchute.com...
originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: carewemust
When Fauci retires, Rand Paul will be gunning for him.
Its very very very dangerous.
Its dangerous to interfere with peoples immune profiles, to direct their immune system to look for things that arent there.
To Insert novel mrna, the platform itself open the door to basically unlimited genetic influence.
The reason why they give 2 injections is because 1 injection is below 50% efficacy