Russian sanctions slow to bite as US officials admit frustrations over pace of pain in Moscow

a reply to: Ilikesecrets


You think we are here to support democrats?

Or msm?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Ilikesecrets

The USSR broke up only because of the regime change polices started off with the reagan admin.

Reagan caused russia to run out of food?

By 'regime change' somewhere?

That would be a pretty neat trick!

a reply to: Bluntone22

Ukraine doesn’t want to be under Russian control.

Ah yes that narrative that Ukraine doesn't want to be under Russian control and they want and to be prefer to be with the EU because certainly EU is nothing a but a union that is pushing through woke polices.


Western Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia as they see themselves as Catholic and not orthodox. I find it amusing how you in the westerns countries pretend to know about Ukraine but only because you have a narrative.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Can’t say I blame them since a huge percentage of the population remembers what it was like under Russia’s control.

The percentage of the population of the Southern/Eastern Ukraine doesnt seem to agree with you unfforneatly if you are talkinga bout the western Ukraien than i am sure they would agree with you.

population remembers what it was like under Russia’s control
That alone shows you know nothing of Ukraine nor that part of region.

Ukrainians are still by bond Russians as they were part of Rus people. This Russian hatred in Ukraine started in early 90s.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Bluntone22

Ukraine doesn’t want to be under Russian control.

Ah yes that narrative that Ukraine doesn't want to be under Russian control and they want and to be prefer to be with the EU because certainly EU is nothing a but a union that is pushing through woke polices.


Western Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia as they see themselves as Catholic and not orthodox. I find it amusing how you in the westerns countries pretend to know about Ukraine but only because you have a narrative.

Was EU mentioned?





Ukraine does not want to be under russian rule.

They have been loudly saying so with their words and bullets for a long time.

If they did want to be ruled by russia, russia would not have needed to start a war by invading Ukraine with 200k troops.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: vNex92

I’m enjoying the collapse…

Your right i am enjoying the collapse of the EU.

US-led sanctions haven't had a bigger impact so far on the Russian economy and are now predicting that the harshest effects probably won't materialize until early next year at the earliest.

The hope had been that the sanctions would quickly choke off Russia's war machine in Ukraine, making it difficult for the Kremlin to sustain its efforts on the battlefield

Surely somebody is getting Trolled ? LOL

A separate senior administration official cautioned CNN, however, that the officials crafting the sanctions in the months leading up to the war always believed that the steepest impacts would not necessarily be immediate.
"I think we've had, from the beginning, a view that when Russia invaded Ukraine and we imposed the sanctions, they were going to be, in all likelihood, a mid-to-long term sanctions regime," the official said. "That is because we wanted to keep pressure on Russia over the long term as it waged war on Ukraine, and we wanted to degrade Russia's economic and industrial capabilities. So we've always seen this as a long term game."

The Sanctions are long term rolling and overlapping

The battlefield however is moving a a rather more rapid pace though

This also explains a lot though
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Oh jesus *Sigh*

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Ukraine does not want to be under russian rule.

Because of those paid protestors that demanded to be part of EU during euromaidan protests in Kiev during 2013? of which many of those protestors were bused in the capital and to wait for their hero John McCain and other US state officials like

Victoria Nuland?


The protests in Ukraine during 2013 were a color revolution.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

The hope had been that the sanctions would quickly choke off Russia's war machine in Ukraine, making it difficult for the Kremlin to sustain its efforts on the battlefield

It wont be happening.
They were hoping for another regime change in Moscow.

So they could put in their guy.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Remembering Victoria Nuland giving cooks/breads to the so called protestors during her visit? and you were saying that protests in Kiev were legit how?

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a reply to: TritonTaranis

The Sanctions are long term rolling and overlapping

The sanctions are having more of a impact on Europe and its economy that is something they will never admit publicly if they do admit it.

It would be as if they are waving the white flag of surrender to Russia.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

I’m glad those Ukraine troops are not killing the Russian soldiers invading their country….lol
It’s still a mystery why so many countries formerly in the Soviet Union joined nato….😂

a reply to: Bluntone22
dont worry the majority of the fighting in the recent counteroffensives had being led by Academi mercenaries surprisingly that are speaking in well fluent English.

a reply to: Bluntone22

It’s still a mystery why so many countries formerly in the Soviet Union joined nato….

mystery ? its no mystery there is something called regime change.
Its what you tried to Syria and failed..

originally posted by: Ilikesecrets
...And all Russia want's is Ukraine back. What's so terrible about this? Sounds like a win/win....

Nope. A win for Russia and a loss for Ukraine.

Ukraine is not Russia's to take and not yours to give.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Bluntone22
dont worry the majority of the fighting in the recent counteroffensives had being led by Academi mercenaries surprisingly that are speaking in well fluent English.

So it wasn't the thousands of English speaking Ukrainians recently trained by the UK?




Do you have any evidence that Ukraine is using ANY mercs like russia is?

Note: their Foreign Legion are not mercs, and also isn't that large.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: TritonTaranis

The hope had been that the sanctions would quickly choke off Russia's war machine in Ukraine, making it difficult for the Kremlin to sustain its efforts on the battlefield

It wont be happening.
They were hoping for another regime change in Moscow.

So they could put in their guy.

No its like ummm happening now LOL

Ukraine delivers another blow to Russia as it breaches front line on Oskil River

Ukraine has now crossed the Oskil River and on there way to Lughask

MOD, Ukrainian breach of the Russian frontline along the Oskil River would humiliate the Kremlin, which has made capturing and then defending Luhansk a priority, and threaten its final logistics hub to Donbas from the Russian city of Belgorod

Keep up, i appreciate its unfolding rather quickly

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

So russia didn't launch another war of territorial conquest in Europe?

Does Russia have 750 bases and its militarily occupying Japan after 50 years after WW2?

Occupy?
Have any asked us to leave?

(They usually get quite upset when we close bases)





But feel free to keep trying that 750 million US bases nonsense, you aren't the first.

Yes , all throughout history .

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The words of one American caused Ukrainians to reject russian rule?

That's a pretty neat trick.