2 Dead, 74 Hospitalized, 2 In Critical Condition While Running Marathon

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

He is in the article but so are others....

Dr. Pedoe examined the records of documented sudden deaths across 650,000 marathon completions during that time, concluding that such risk in the London Marathon was 1 in 80,000 finishers.

If you prefer from 2011
BBC

Doing extreme endurance exercise, like training for a marathon, can damage the heart, research reveals.
MRI scans on 40 athletes training for challenging sporting events like triathlons or alpine cycle races showed most had stretched heart muscles.
Although many went on to make a complete recovery after a week, five showed more permanent injuries.
The researchers told the European Heart Journal how these changes might cause heart problems like arrhythmia.

McCullough isn't a virologist, he's a cardiologist. When I post information it's from people with knowledge about the subject. When you post information it's usually doom porn from people without actual training or knowledge in the subject they are making claims about.

Dr. Pedo? Really?

None of your fact check sources like "politifact" even have any doctors let alone a science degree except 1 or 2 with an undergrad degree in biology, but your saying the most published cardiologist in the world isn't credible when it comes to confirming the record numbers of cardiac issues like myocarditis are caused by the vaccine? You don't have to be a virologist to understand what's damaging the heart. Because in your case you trust fact checkers with a degree in gender studies over a peer reviewed studies.

Just STOP.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: PolyATS
This is obviously all caused by "Climate Change"

v1rtu0s0 is a anti-vaccer, so you missed the mark here. lol

When using absolutes in an argument it only shows unreasonable, irrational, and immature thought processes. Anti Covid experiment "vaccine" is not the same as other vaccines. Do you have proof he is an anti-vaccer in its entirety as you suggested?

If so, produce the link that shows him saying he is against all vaccines. If not, then understand how foolish you look.

originally posted by: NightCall

When using absolutes in an argument it only shows unreasonable, irrational, and immature thought processes. Anti Covid experiment "vaccine" is not the same as other vaccines. Do you have proof he is an anti-vaccer in its entirety as you suggested?

If so, produce the link that shows him saying he is against all vaccines. If not, then understand how foolish you look.

I use the word as a simplification of a drawn out identifier to align him with his hard line stance on all this. OK he is an anti-COVID vaccine vaccer, better?

Anyone ever read Stephen King's The Long Walk?

The Long Walk is a dystopian horror novel by American writer Stephen King, published in 1979, under the pseudonym Richard Bachman. It was collected in 1985 in the hardcover omnibus The Bachman Books, and has seen several reprints since, as both paperback and hardback.

Set in a future dystopian America, ruled by a totalitarian and militaristic dictator, the plot revolves around the contestants of a grueling annual walking contest

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: NightCall

When using absolutes in an argument it only shows unreasonable, irrational, and immature thought processes. Anti Covid experiment "vaccine" is not the same as other vaccines. Do you have proof he is an anti-vaccer in its entirety as you suggested?

If so, produce the link that shows him saying he is against all vaccines. If not, then understand how foolish you look.

I use the word as a simplification of a drawn out identifier to align him with his hard line stance on all this. OK he is an anti-COVID vaccine vaccer, better?

Well, you can try to spin it as much as you want but the term anti-vaccer has been coined by the left to paint an unrealistic perception about those opposed to the experimental covid 19 mRNA. So, you know very well why you said that, or, you lack intellectual self control and need mass media to tell you how to think. Since you replied with this response, I am inclined to think that you did it intentionally.

The reason why we are more divided than we ever have been is because of those on the left and right alike, who do the very thing you just did, which is what Govt's want. A divided people is easier to conquer.

How about more of an effort to not take things out of context, twist words, go to the extremes where extremes are not in fact reality?

originally posted by: NightCall

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: PolyATS
This is obviously all caused by "Climate Change"

v1rtu0s0 is a anti-vaccer, so you missed the mark here. lol

When using absolutes in an argument it only shows unreasonable, irrational, and immature thought processes. Anti Covid experiment "vaccine" is not the same as other vaccines. Do you have proof he is an anti-vaccer in its entirety as you suggested?

If so, produce the link that shows him saying he is against all vaccines. If not, then understand how foolish you look.

He's using propaganda. If you don't like Honda's, does that make you anti car?

If you don't like the Covid vaccine does that make you anti vaccine?

Absolute failure of logic.

originally posted by: NightCall


How about more of an effort to not take things out of context, twist words, go to the extremes where extremes are not in fact reality?

How about not getting your panties twisted too with a snarky one line comment. If you have any substance you would like to discuss we can have at it. Also, by the tone of your post just what label are you thinking I am... lol

Also, you seem to use trigger words to justify your stance on this such as "experimental covid 19 mRNA". "Experimental" is a big social media dog whistle, so who is kidding who here...lol

First mRNA vaccine testing in humans was 2012, and the protocol for the COVID vaccine was the same as any other vaccine, but Phage 3 was a massive number of people like 30,000 which is unheard of in other cases that would like to get 1,000 people for Phase 3, many times they can't. Since COVID was spreading rather fast, getting 30,000 was not that hard compared to say a vaccine for rabies.

Now that we are well over 1.5 years with well over 600 million doses in America and over 12.5 billion in the world when do you stop dog whistling "experimental".

Then we have the J&J vaccine that has had most of the issues we see and is not mRNA, but based on the more traditional viral vector style vaccine we see in other types, so you tell me what do you not like here.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

He's using propaganda. If you don't like Honda's, does that make you anti car?

If you don't like the Covid vaccine does that make you anti vaccine?

Absolute failure of logic.

You all read too much into a snarky one liner. I have no clue if you hate all vaccines, don't really care, maybe you hate GMO foods too, who cares since this post and every post you make is only about COVID vaccines, so it is kind of safe to assume that is the only one we are talking about with a simple and generic label of anti-vaccer or non-vaccer. Since we are all sensitive about pronouns may I ask what is your vaccination pronouns for me to use?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Well it looks like you can't read my friend. It's Dr Dan Pedeo but if you keep seeing pedo, thats possibly saying something about you??
He's classed as one of the fathers of modern marthon medicine.

Dr Dan Tunstall Pedoe

You have the audacity to talk about my links!?!
All you link to are people reporting to be "doctors" who arn't, experts in one field pretending to experts in another and far-right religous groups!

I've posted facts from the NHS, dozens of professional bodies and Universities, most of your posts are opinion pieces and from retired Doctors selling books.
You post more doom porn then the MSM, you seem to live in a state of fear and terror.

originally posted by: NightCall

So, a recent plandemic and we already know "long term" effects? Help me out here...... An unplanned covid that just started fairly recently, and somehow we already know it has long term health effects, but something (vaccine that's not really a vaccine) that was intentionally developed and supposedly tested, we don't know long term effects of it yet?


Right............. Again, I'm your Huckleberry when you're ready for a real debate but be aware for every snarky comment you make I can assuredly match you. Or, we can be adults and gather as much information as we can and use all information before drawing any conclusions.

It all really depends on what we are talking about here. Some here have suggested over and over we all will die from the vaccine in 5 years too. So what is it do you want to focus on?

If we want to focus on the spiked protein then lets compare the vaccine to the actual virus. The vaccine has a limited number and isolated in the arm and if any get into your system past the spot of the injection it is nothing compared to the real deal. The virus fills your body with spike protein and the longer it takes you to fight it off the longer the virus has time to mass produce the protein. Kind of makes sense, right? Long COVID is just a name for when people are sick for weeks and so they develop other issues that do not go away because their body was flooded for a longer period of time with the protein, and the virus had a good amount to time to destroy things like their air sack cells and get into vital organs, all that the vaccine does not do. What this all means is people have had continuous medical issues long after they got over the virus...

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Well it looks like you can't read my friend. It's Dr Dan Pedeo but if you keep seeing pedo, thats possibly saying something about you??
He's classed as one of the fathers of modern marthon medicine.

Dr Dan Tunstall Pedoe

You have the audacity to talk about my links!?!
All you link to are people reporting to be "doctors" who arn't, experts in one field pretending to experts in another and far-right religous groups!

I've posted facts from the NHS, dozens of professional bodies and Universities, most of your posts are opinion pieces and from retired Doctors selling books.
You post more doom porn then the MSM, you seem to live in a state of fear and terror.

Yeah you post links to "fact checkers" which were exposed long ago as big pharma propaganda who staff people with degrees in gender studies and get exposed. Gtfo

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Does it make you feel big by swearing at members?!?!

Whats a matter, feeling all hurt??

I've posted 1 link to politifact in my 16 years here. You've posted multiple times to retired crackpot "doctors" and religous groups as your medical experts!
Politifact has multiple reporters and specialists but you seem fixated on gender studies?? A bit weird if you ask me!!!

I'm suprised you have time for ATS will all the doom porn you must be reading.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You really like feeling big by swearing at members don't you?!?!

Whats a matter, feeling all hurt??

I've posted 1 link to politifact in my 16 years here. You've posted multiple times to retired crackpot "doctors" and religous groups as your medical experts!
Politifact has multiple reporters and specialists but you seem fixated on gender studies?? A bit weird if you ask me!!!

I'm suprised you have time for ATS will all the doom porn you must be reading.

Wheres your script at bro?

"Doom porn" "crackpot" "antivaxx". You all use the same keywords.

You're a key board warrior.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Keyboard warrior!?! Does that make you feel better, does it?

We don't use the same keyboard. You use the same opinion pieces from nutcases who don't know what they're talking about, which stands out a mile with anyone with more than a modicum of intelligence.

Just for you, "crackpot"

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

"Doom porn" "crackpot" "antivaxx". You all use the same keywords.

You're a key board warrior.

Holy crap, this coming from the key word king...lol

How are we 6 pages in on this thread. We have 2 athletes dead, others hospitalized. From what? I still haven't seen any info. There were both vaccinated and unvaccinated racers. Which ones were injured or died?

We have none of the necessary information to make any reasonable conclusions.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I find it strange that there had being this many Hospitalized.

originally posted by: frogs453
How are we 6 pages in on this thread. We have 2 athletes dead, others hospitalized. From what? I still haven't seen any info. There were both vaccinated and unvaccinated racers. Which ones were injured or died?

We have none of the necessary information to make any reasonable conclusions.

Because things like real information and data aren't really in V1rtu0s0's wheel house. He should maybe apply for a job at the National Enquirer!

originally posted by: frogs453
How are we 6 pages in on this thread. We have 2 athletes dead, others hospitalized. From what? I still haven't seen any info. There were both vaccinated and unvaccinated racers. Which ones were injured or died?

We have none of the necessary information to make any reasonable conclusions.

v1rtu0s0 just kind of throws it out there that it is all vaccine related with nothing much more added and zero follow-up down the road when actual reports come out. We are talking about 16,000 people running a grueling 55 miles race though rugged country in an area that is hardly 10% vaccinated, which he does not add to his post.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: NightCall

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: PolyATS
This is obviously all caused by "Climate Change"

v1rtu0s0 is a anti-vaccer, so you missed the mark here. lol

When using absolutes in an argument it only shows unreasonable, irrational, and immature thought processes. Anti Covid experiment "vaccine" is not the same as other vaccines. Do you have proof he is an anti-vaccer in its entirety as you suggested?

If so, produce the link that shows him saying he is against all vaccines. If not, then understand how foolish you look.

He's using propaganda. If you don't like Honda's, does that make you anti car?

If you don't like the Covid vaccine does that make you anti vaccine?

Absolute failure of logic.

Yup. I'm a believer in that once you resort to propaganda or other tricks you know you're position is a weak one. The lack of self reflection they have is astounding.