England and Wales excess deaths terrifying MSM

a reply to: Randyvine2

Good.

I'll probably be sacked by big pharma for saying that.

I'm joking.....

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

About time somebody lightens things up around here.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Axios
a reply to: anonentity

Do you just watch bitchute trash all day?

This guy playing with a rudimentary chart and playing excel does nothing to support the vaccine injuries you and the fool in the video are insinuating.

Took all of two seconds....

www.msn.com...

Experts call for probe as mortality rates in England and Wales climb despite drop in coronavirus deaths

A total of 10,836 deaths were registered in England and Wales, a 16.6% increase on the five-year average.

But only 2.6% (285) of the latest deaths involved Covid-19

No one can directly answer this increase. They dance around it and try to say the data is wrong. Or say it's drugs and Suicides, which only occur in after 2021.

I guess everyone waited until 2021 to start dying rapidly. The vaccines should correlate with a decrease in all cause mortality not an extreme increase. Jesus

While ever populations are growing, rather than declining, all cause mortality will grow. And, all cause mortality includes those who died from COVID-19, of which there is a pandemic at the time. Similarly, the pandemic has overstretched health care resources and caused other issues such as socio-economic ones around the world and has led to increased mortality from causes other than COVID-19.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

What, and you didn't automatically distrust those who raised you?

Wow, you will resort to anything. My mistake, I thought you might be worth
talking to.

That's all you got, out of that entire post?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

No one can directly answer this increase. They dance around it and try to say the data is wrong. Or say it's drugs and Suicides, which only occur in after 2021.

You know full well that this increase in mortality has been accounted for, and that it began long before anybody had heard of Covid, because I've already debunked the exact same phenomona in regards to the US on a previous thread.

But, just to double debunk you, here's an article form the UK which was published by the ONS in 2018 which documented increased mortality rates for those aged 15-54, starting in 2012.

Mortality rates have worsened among those aged 15 to 54 years since 2012 in the UK,

Link

Both males and females aged 15 to 34 years and 35 to 54 years have seen mortality rates rise from 2012. For males aged 15 to 34 years there was previously a sustained increasing trend in mortality from 1987 to 1999.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Axios
a reply to: anonentity

Do you just watch bitchute trash all day?

This guy playing with a rudimentary chart and playing excel does nothing to support the vaccine injuries you and the fool in the video are insinuating.

Took all of two seconds....

www.msn.com...

Experts call for probe as mortality rates in England and Wales climb despite drop in coronavirus deaths

A total of 10,836 deaths were registered in England and Wales, a 16.6% increase on the five-year average.

But only 2.6% (285) of the latest deaths involved Covid-19

No one can directly answer this increase. They dance around it and try to say the data is wrong. Or say it's drugs and Suicides, which only occur in after 2021.

I guess everyone waited until 2021 to start dying rapidly. The vaccines should correlate with a decrease in all cause mortality not an extreme increase. Jesus

While ever populations are growing, rather than declining, all cause mortality will grow. And, all cause mortality includes those who died from COVID-19, of which there is a pandemic at the time. Similarly, the pandemic has overstretched health care resources and caused other issues such as socio-economic ones around the world and has led to increased mortality from causes other than COVID-19.

The trend actually began long before covid was a thing. so it's definitely not vax related.

Link

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Axios
a reply to: anonentity

Do you just watch bitchute trash all day?

This guy playing with a rudimentary chart and playing excel does nothing to support the vaccine injuries you and the fool in the video are insinuating.

Took all of two seconds....

www.msn.com...

Experts call for probe as mortality rates in England and Wales climb despite drop in coronavirus deaths

A total of 10,836 deaths were registered in England and Wales, a 16.6% increase on the five-year average.

But only 2.6% (285) of the latest deaths involved Covid-19

No one can directly answer this increase. They dance around it and try to say the data is wrong. Or say it's drugs and Suicides, which only occur in after 2021.

I guess everyone waited until 2021 to start dying rapidly. The vaccines should correlate with a decrease in all cause mortality not an extreme increase. Jesus

While ever populations are growing, rather than declining, all cause mortality will grow. And, all cause mortality includes those who died from COVID-19, of which there is a pandemic at the time. Similarly, the pandemic has overstretched health care resources and caused other issues such as socio-economic ones around the world and has led to increased mortality from causes other than COVID-19.

The trend actually began long before covid was a thing. so it's definitely not vax related.

Link

The excess deaths we are seeing is compared to the past 5 years.

Which means the increased mortality rate since 2012 you "debunked" is already accounted for.

a reply to: rounda

Trend.

a reply to: vNex92

It's surely just a question of time!

If anything, COVID has continued to accentuate the true colors of the human race as a whole.. A bunch of monkey's with ego problems...

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Population figures are dropping, where do you get it from?

a reply to: chr0naut

That's all you got, out of that entire post?

Well I needed some time to cope with the sudden drop in IQ you
must have experienced. So as to come up with that "trust the
people that raised you" remark question retort I can't even call it.

I mean I don't know what that was but it wasn't clever funny
serious philosophical satire profound commercial promotional.

So I had to take some time to myself, a break i guess. Just been
gazing thru the second floor window at the top of the century old
walnut tree in the front yard. Sadly contemplating the complete
lack of taste one used to even write something so bland. Let alone
read it back and choose to leave it? Why if it were raining out I
might have even cried. Any way I guess it was just all you.

But for me you just destroyed the whole conversation. Just when
it was going so well towards something that might resemble interesting.

a reply to: Reptile31

If anything, COVID has continued to accentuate the true colors of the human race as a whole.. A bunch of monkey's with ego problems...

And monkey pox! lol

originally posted by: iamthevirus
Glad I live in a nation that does not have socialized medicine.


a reply to: anonentity

The UK has private and national healthcare.. So even more freedom of choice. So maybe you're not glad you live in a country with limited choices.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Again Ochams razor is usually right, but skirting around the elephant will keep the paychecks coming in.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

That's all you got, out of that entire post?

Well I needed some time to cope with the sudden drop in IQ you
must have experienced. So as to come up with that "trust the
people that raised you" remark question retort I can't even call it.

I mean I don't know what that was but it wasn't clever funny
serious philosophical satire profound commercial promotional.

So I had to take some time to myself, a break i guess. Just been
gazing thru the second floor window at the top of the century old
walnut tree in the front yard. Sadly contemplating the complete
lack of taste one used to even write something so bland. Let alone
read it back and choose to leave it? Why if it were raining out I
might have even cried. Any way I guess it was just all you.

But for me you just destroyed the whole conversation. Just when
it was going so well towards something that might resemble interesting.

You don't seem to have detected that your diatribe about 'earned trust' and 'a skeptical attitude' followed my posting about the untrustworthy nature of Bullchute, which you seemed to be saying was acceptable to you.

Your previous posts - accepting a source of low credibility - were entirely antithetical to your latter ones implying that you were skeptical about whom you trust.

If there was any drop in intellectual rigor, it was not mine.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Again Ochams razor is usually right, but skirting around the elephant will keep the paychecks coming in.

Believing in a vast unwieldy conspiracy by millions of conspirators, to push an allegedly deadly concoction upon the majority of the world, is not conformant to Occam's postulate.

The misspelling, in a world where spell checks are everywhere and online references abound, also serves to weaken your case.

a reply to: chr0naut

Part of wading thru the mud includes bringing items here to
see what others think. And I admit when I'm wrong and even
post from you tube to demonstrate the censorship that you also
refuse is happening on a large scale.

But without any firearms I have no interest in convincing you of
anything. I'll leave that to the obvious freight train headed
your way.



Hell if I were you completely unarmed and vulnerable. Unable to
protect anyone? I'd be in denial right up to the kool aid glass as well.
I get it no honorable way out. Not like that over here and even tho it
ain't much of a choice at least it is a choice.

a reply to: chr0naut

I doubt whether there is a vast conspiracy, all that has to happen is to play ball to pick up your paycheck. Most people are amenable to a bit of monetary persuasion one way or another. The mear thought that a pharmaceutical product could be bad for you is not on most people's radar. That's until they wonder why people are dying off before their time in front of them. If it was granny or grandpa who popped off and left them something, it would be more like "Oh well they had a good life and a bit of cash is handy for the grief. This will be a slow build-up before the sheep start to panic. The purveyors of the product are on record as being eugenicists in persuasion. They are on record for having to pay out billions for past cock ups, that's why they have indemnity. Why should this rushed poorly trialed product be any different than the past mistakes? not to mention mandates there is a big payday for some people. Especially those who twisted financial arms to take it. It is quite laughable that someone who professes to follow the science ignored the purveyor's past malfeasance. You must think you are lucky or something? That's if you actually took the shot.

a reply to: Randyvine2

off topic: right now they are deleting the internet or more precisely, they limit the search results that the search engines provides. don't trust me. check.