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originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66
Haha, oook. Let's see by tomorrow at 3 if he blocks this motion to unseal. Garland called his bluff for sure. Trump wanted to bluster about the situation but not actually let you know. They have a list already. 2 pages, they could release it. They won't. The former guy really does not want you to see what they were after and subsequently found. And he has only a day to try to find a way to spin it.
So what you are saying is that there is no legal reason a former president cannot be served with a search warrant as part of a criminal investigation? Thanks for clearing that up.
originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66
Haha, oook. Let's see by tomorrow at 3 if he blocks this motion to unseal. Garland called his bluff for sure. Trump wanted to bluster about the situation but not actually let you know. They have a list already. 2 pages, they could release it. They won't. The former guy really does not want you to see what they were after and subsequently found. And he has only a day to try to find a way to spin it.
originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: LSU2018
No kidding. Garland would have held a press conference outside of MAL if not allowed the press to go in with the FBI team.
originally posted by: LaughingAtCultists
originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: LaughingAtCultists
originally posted by: VierEyes
originally posted by: LaughingAtCultists
originally posted by: VierEyes
You don't issue a search warrant for a former president.
Where in the constitution or legal code does it say that?
Of course if the DoJ isn't allowed to investigate the potential opponent of a currently elected president, then that must mean all future DoJs must be barred from investigating any potential political opponents of any future presidents as well. The only way this standard makes sense is if every time the presidency flips, the other party becomes immune. By that sort of logic, Trump would never be allowed to let the DoJ investigate Clinton, Biden, etc.
Or can the Trump cultists just admit that they want a legal double standard?
1. Trump was cooperating.
2. All they had to do was ask him for what they wanted.
3. He's a former President. They need to address him with respect, which they haven't. It is expected that former Presidents are extended some GD courtesy.
4. Obama walked off with a trove of documents and has never been confronted let alone raided.
5. Clinton had an entire server of documents. No one ever busted into her home.
Where in the constitution or legal code does it say that you have to treat a former president as anything other than a normal citizen?
"Respect" that gives special privileges is not what Americanism is about, right? Wasn't there some kind of war to get rid of kings and nobles ruling over disadvantaged castes? Funny how all that goes out the window when convenient for "patriots."
I don't think any liberal wants to start bringing up what's in the Constitution. 99% of the liberal agenda would suddenly go *poof* and vanish. Didn't we just go through this with abortion?
Well the amusing thing is that I'm not a liberal. In fact, I myself would never claim to be an American patriot because my views are more in line with authoritarian systems like Vedic theological monarchy. Maybe the closest name for the ideological basis would be the "radical traditionalism" used by John Michell, although his interpretation of traditional culture is more libertarian than mine. I think the pharoahnic Egyptians were onto something with the idea that music must be strictly regulated because it directly influences reality.
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66
Haha, oook. Let's see by tomorrow at 3 if he blocks this motion to unseal. Garland called his bluff for sure. Trump wanted to bluster about the situation but not actually let you know. They have a list already. 2 pages, they could release it. They won't. The former guy really does not want you to see what they were after and subsequently found. And he has only a day to try to find a way to spin it.
Garland was a nervous wreck in his statement today, even while reading from a #ing teleprompter.
If he would have had to say something off the top of his head, he would have passed out right there.
I really believe that you have a bigger hard on for Trump than the Dem con artists do.
This is a #ing nothing burger with fries, like you guys always serve.
I’ll take mine with no pickle.
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66
Haha, oook. Let's see by tomorrow at 3 if he blocks this motion to unseal. Garland called his bluff for sure. Trump wanted to bluster about the situation but not actually let you know. They have a list already. 2 pages, they could release it. They won't. The former guy really does not want you to see what they were after and subsequently found. And he has only a day to try to find a way to spin it.
Garland was a nervous wreck in his statement today, even while reading from a #ing teleprompter.
If he would have had to say something off the top of his head, he would have passed out right there.
I really believe that you have a bigger hard on for Trump than the Dem con artists do.
This is a #ing nothing burger with fries, like you guys always serve.
I’ll take mine with no pickle.
If Garland had anything truthful to tell us, he wouldn't need a teleprompter. How many times have we seen a Sheriff have to appear in front of a live news camera to give us information about something? Lots of times, and you never see a teleprompter.
originally posted by: frogs453
So I took a deeper look at Jay Bratt who signed on the court paperwork. It's not a good thing at all for the former guy. His position of Chief of the Counterintelligence section:
The Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) supervises the investigation and prosecution of cases affecting national security, foreign relations, and the export of military and strategic commodities and technology. The Section has executive responsibility for authorizing the prosecution of cases under criminal statutes relating to espionage, sabotage, neutrality, and atomic energy. It provides legal advice to U.S. Attorney's Offices and investigative agencies on all matters within its area of responsibility, which includes 88 federal statutes affecting national security. It also coordinates criminal cases involving the application of the Classified Information Procedures Act.
DOJ
The former guy is sweating bullets right now.
Judge who approved FBI’s Mar-a-Lago search represented clients linked to Jeffrey Epstein
Bruce Reinhart worked as a federal prosecutor until Jan. 1, 2008, when a day later he became a defense attorney representing employees of Epstein.
Was Jeffrey Epstein's Lawyer Behind the Mar-a-Lago Raid?
Reinhart, she added, was named in a Crime Victims’ Rights Act lawsuit which, per the Miami Herald, “accused him of violating Justice Department policies by switching sides, implying that he leveraged inside information about Epstein’s investigation to curry favor with Epstein.”
originally posted by: Mantiss2021
originally posted by: frogs453
So I took a deeper look at Jay Bratt who signed on the court paperwork. It's not a good thing at all for the former guy. His position of Chief of the Counterintelligence section:
The Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) supervises the investigation and prosecution of cases affecting national security, foreign relations, and the export of military and strategic commodities and technology. The Section has executive responsibility for authorizing the prosecution of cases under criminal statutes relating to espionage, sabotage, neutrality, and atomic energy. It provides legal advice to U.S. Attorney's Offices and investigative agencies on all matters within its area of responsibility, which includes 88 federal statutes affecting national security. It also coordinates criminal cases involving the application of the Classified Information Procedures Act.
DOJ
The former guy is sweating bullets right now.
Quite some time ago, I postulated whether it might have been Trump's plan to use National Security secrets to bargain for sanctuary in a country lacking extradition treaties with the US.
I'm reminded of rumors that Trump had/has Epstein's address book.