Russia has 'wired energy units' of Zaporizhzhia Nuclear plant with Explosives

a reply to: RickyD

We aren't talking about that fire.

In related news : Brandon™ used some old Hockey-tape, to tape two firecrackers to his junk.

He was last seen running-around the Whitehouse™ nekid, screaming that he was blow his business up, if he didn't get some ice-cream pronto !

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I am saying that ukraine reported the first fore as some kind of life threatening nuclear reactor endagering fire the russians set by firing it the reactor building...which was proven a lie. The Brussels article literally starts off with that lie so right off the bar that's not very trustworthy. The link to telegram was a post from the energy company saying the same thing they told the MSM and its what they are reporting...but no where is there anything saying who told them what this general said to this troops which they obviously weren't there to hear. I also dont see anything elsewhere of this general making any public threats of this nature...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: KTemplar

No, it isn't.

What biolabs and what has that got to do with this?

It's a what-about-ism being used to justify based on conspiracy theory.

These what-about-isms are a dime a dozen these days, I'm surprised you didn't realize this.

Edit: Wow, page 8? See ya later folks, not reading this, gotta go to work. 🤣

I hope hard fought victories were won and truth was exposed, ignorance was denied and all of that.

a reply to: RickyD

Here:


t.me...

You "forgot " (?) to post a working link .

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: KTemplar

You back someone in a corner and try to infringe on their natural resources and safety and borders don’t act surprised when this is what you get!

Putin backed himself into a corner , he underestimated the resolve of the Ukrainian people to defend their country and the will of the West to stand up to his unprovoked attack on a neighboring country.

His Peter the Great fantasy got the better of him.

Stop saying unprovoked cause u know it wasn't. If Mexico and Canada allowed Russia to come over there and set missile systems, start arming and training the soliders there while the US was having conflicts with them, if Mexico and Canada also allowed Russia to set up 20 bio labs for who knows what reasons all while Mexico installs tons of new laws that directly target the tens of millions of American people that live in one area of Mexico and later on Mexico sends in the army and thousands of government backed Nationlist militias who beat, torture and burn American people to death the US would send in their armed forces to put an end to it as well and all the westernbmedia would be behind the US for all the reasons I mentioned above. THE US would not only attack Mexico they would attack Russia as well for Russia interfering in their affairs and arming an enemy

Quote of the day above............. "Stop saying unprovoked cause u know it wasn't" plus the rest of this ^^^^ Totally spot on and equal to KTemplar's assessment of the special operation in the east of Europe. Good to see not everyone is brainwashed by the western MSM

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Nuclear terrorism in action: the Russians have declared their readiness to blow up the mined ZNPP Russians do not hide their plans and are already openly blackmailing the whole world, declaring that they are ready to blow up the Zaporizhia NPP. In his statement, the head of the radiation, chemical and biological defense forces of the Russian Federation, Major General Valery Vasiliev, who currently commands the garrison of the ZNPP, said that "there will be either Russian land or a scorched desert." "As you know, we mined all the important objects of the Zaporozhye nuclear plant. And we do not hide this from the enemy. We warned them. The enemy knows that the station will be either Russian or nobody's. We are ready for the consequences of this step. And you, liberation warriors, must understand that we have no second way. And if there is the most severe order - we must fulfill it with honor!" he told his soldiers. Earlier, the representative of the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications Andriy Yusov said that the department has confirmed information about the mining of power units of the ZaNPP by Russian troops

This is what your link says...

Reportedly he said this to this troops...where is it they're getting this info from? That's what I want to know. I want to see the source of such a bold report before I believe it because those reporting it have proven themselves many times now too be untrustworthy...

a reply to: JAY1980

So Putin intends to create a nuclear disaster on his doorstep because he is losing so badly? Even though he has basically achieved everything he said he wanted to achieve?

In what world is that? The one with all the dead Nazis or the one with a fully disarmed Ukraine? The armchair general in me says Russia has achieved little but atleast they've reached the Dneiper... At 20th century costs. I'll give credit though its with seemingly 20th century logistics.

This sounds an awful lot like when they said Assad was launching a chemical attack on women and children out of desperation in the middle of a war he was winning. It just makes no strategic sense.

Sure.

Probably pre-soviet I mean Russian assistance? Was that when he had 1/3 or a 1/5 of Syria under his belt?

What makes more strategic sense is Russia intends to disable the power plant if Ukraine somehow manages to recapture it. Not this scorched earth lunacy that Putin is on some quest to rebuild the mother Russia and nuke the planet.

They're decommissioning nuclear plants now?

That's as dumb as "they'll just sell gas to China and India then" nonsense.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: KTemplar

If this is not a land/resource grab then why don’t we offer to relocate the Ukrainians to our wonderful USA for a much better life rather than supply weapons to fight a proxy war?

I would guess because its the Ukrainian homeland, its where Ukrainians have lived for generations and where they want to keep on living free from Russian domination and control.

Like Joe Biden and Zelenski and Pelosi and and Schumer and Grahm and McConnel have the Ukrainians best interests at heart

You probably actually believe that they do

a reply to: RickyD

I'm amazed at how anyone can 100% embrace western propaganda as
if it's godspeak. I mean 100% across a wide spectrum of current events
past and future as well. As if western propaganda isn't a far worse evil
than Russia? So the absurdity here is to embrace the rhetoric of Western
propaganda's views painting ANYBODY as evil. Because every mature
human being should understand when evil points it's finger and cries
evil. How do you trust that finger pointing evil at all. To swallow any
narrative based on what the gov. in the west is saying is 100% asinine.

a reply to: Randyvine2

I am not embracing any propaganda...I am trying to examine the source of what appears to be propaganda from folks who've earned a reputation for using it. Whats asinine is believing any reports without first examining and scrutinizing the source...for which I have yet to see in this case...just word from one side about the other...

Edit: Just reread my reply and it sounded as if I wanted to imply that you are embracing someone propaganda...I just want to see for myself what would lead this energy company to make such bold claims.

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: Kenzo


President Putin is not crying, and he’s not losing.

Oh, yes he is. Russia hasn't declared a single Ukrainian territory as part of Russia - not Mariupol, not Kharkiv - not a single city, district or land mass.

The doom porn doesn't work either. You don't just "wire" a nuclear plant and expect to use it as a weapon. Whoever wrote the article should consult a nuclear engineer before writing a lot of crap. No one buys it.

Russia is engaged in a war of attrition which they will not win. This article says very blatantly that they've lost it already.

a reply to: RickyD

I am not embracing any propaganda.

I'm sorry dude I wasn't referring to you at all. I didn't realize I
was being so vague.

Apologies.

I was addressing you with an observation.

a reply to: RickyD

I am not embracing any propaganda...I am trying to examine the source of what appears to be propaganda from folks who've earned a reputation for using it. Whats asinine is believing any reports without first examining and scrutinizing the source...for which I have yet to see in this case...just word from one side about the other...

It seems to me the OP reads like "When a man loves a woman" of western propaganda.

a reply to: Randyvine2

It sounds like we share that observation. I really wish someone could link me to where this general said these things or how they would even know what he said to this own troops. I would want to see the same from the other side if the tables were turned.

At the end of the day everyone should be wanting to scrutize and confirm the source of anything reported these days. No ones media seems free from lies and bias these days...the only way to stay informed is to play attention to and scrutinize sources.

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: Kenzo


President Putin is not crying, and he’s not losing.

Oh, yes he is.

Oh, no he isn't Putin has so far gained a territory half the size of the United Kingdom, let's say the whole of England to add to his Empire. Look I'm no Vlad fanboy I'm just stating the facts as they are on the ground right now

a reply to: RickyD

At the end of the day everyone should be wanting to scrutize and confirm the source of anything reported these days.

This is where I'm at from now on as well. Seen way to much
from both sides of every argument on just about any issue.
And I'm even unintentionally guilty my own self. But I did
see it and I'm working on it now.

Maybe next I break out some old protest songs?

Well, I wouldnt be to worried.. or maybe we should be VERY worried...

From what i can tell the source is labeled trustworthy, but this photo is supposedly one some ruSSians are claiming shows proof Ukrainians did the shelling.



... if it is I dont think we have much to worry about, ruSSians are complete incompetents after all, if they cant fake even this properly (I mean honestly look at it! lol) I dont think they could hit the broadside of a nuclear power plant with it set up at point blank range... granted I wouldn't put it past them to try (hence the maybe very worry).

Wish I could find the proper source of the pic though (although the mods in that sub are very good at weeding out BS prior to labeling anything trustworthy).

www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/wjgy5e/rocket_crat er_at_zaporizhzhia_nuclear_power

Oh and laughably seems ruSSia has withdrawn its nuclear weapons from inspection... cant have people realizing their all rusty husks that havent been maintained since the early 80's and half the nuclear components are cardboard boxes with sawdust and a small piece of paper with the word 'boom' on it stuck inside...

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: gortex

Just read a report that North Macedonia has donated the four MiG 25's they bought from Ukraine, back to Ukraine.

Some versions of the 25 (Mig25RB) were "nuclear capable". Can't find any info on the version being returned to Ukraine, but it is likely that Ukrainian pilots will be familiar with the aircraft...and its capabilities.

Fight (nuclear) fire with fire?


Desperate times sometimes lead to Desperate Measures.

The Mig-25 and its follow on variants were A2A interceptors, originally designed to go up against the XB-70 and SR-71/A-12s. Some experiments were probably conducted for a high speed penetration bomber version but the variants dont have the legs for that. Highly doubt there are any nuclear capable Mig-25s/35s flying today, there are better delivery options available should Russia choose to go nuclear.