Covid: terrible news

originally posted by: InwardDiver

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

....And you are Just Finding this Out ? The EXACT DAY that Vaccines were Pushed on an Uninformed Public was the Day to Figure this All Out . Geez....

One can suspect or hypothesize but without empirical data it's nearly impossible to figure something out such as this immediately as something happens.

Strange, I did. I researched how this new injection worked. Then with my knowledge of microbiology coupled with a healthy dose of common sense I instantly decided that too many things have not been thought through enough for me to just hold my arm up with teary eyes and beg for this experiment to be injected into my blood stream.

All the things I worried about came true later. So there is that.

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: InwardDiver

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

....And you are Just Finding this Out ? The EXACT DAY that Vaccines were Pushed on an Uninformed Public was the Day to Figure this All Out . Geez....

One can suspect or hypothesize but without empirical data it's nearly impossible to figure something out such as this immediately as something happens.

Strange, I did. I researched how this new injection worked. Then with my knowledge of microbiology coupled with a healthy dose of common sense I instantly decided that too many things have not been thought through enough for me to just hold my arm up with teary eyes and beg for this experiment to be injected into my blood stream.

All the things I worried about came true later. So there is that.

I had a nagging, gut feeling, intuition if you will, that told me this wasn't something to take lightly.
I'm not "anti vax" or anti science, it's just something felt off about this whole thing.

From day one, I wasn't convinced anything we were being told was true.

Unfortunately, try as I might I couldn't convince everyone around me and in the end my parents took both shots and the subsequent boosters.

Thankfully, so far, they've had no adverse reactions.

Which is fine, as nobody has ever said the vaccines are killing EVERYBODY or that the majority is effected (for now).
No, we just want them to acknowledge SOME people are having adverse reactions...and in some cases, yes, people are dying.

That's all.

Just some acknowledgement that the vaccine is not 100% safe, which is how it was sold to the public.
So, when I see people refusing to accept that there are some very worrying effects being recorded and that we really don't have any idea what these shots will do long term, I have to question why.

Why are they refusing to acknowledge that which is evidently true?

Is it because they don't care, or they are only interested in information that reinforces their ideological worldview?

originally posted by: Godabove09

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Godabove09

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Godabove09

Hang on, first you said "zero evidence" that it causes "any damage".

Now, you are saying 1 in 5000 have a "moderate" reaction and 1 in 50,000 have a "moderate to serious" reaction.

From my original comment:

here is zero evidence that the vax weakens you against other illness,

You quoted that exact section, yet you don't seem to have read it.

Maybe, my arithmetic is off or I'm confused, but 1 (in whatever) is not zero - and "moderate" and "moderate to serious" don't qualify as not causing "any damage".

It's not your math, it's your reading. Zero evidence that it weakens you against other diseases.

P.S where did you get those numbers from?

Sources are in my signature.

and if it's WHO or something similar you'll be laughed at,

It's actually one the top Israeli institutes. So, not WHO.

The stuff about keeping a secret being impossible and blah blah blah is so inane and unworthy of serious consideration that you should be embarrassed to post such drivel.

In order to keep something like this secret you'd need to bride or threaten every coroner in the US who would have access to evidence of harm caused by the vax. You'd also need to bribe or threaten their equivalents overseas. As well as the academics and journalists who report on this, the NGOs who provide things like AIDS studies, in every country all over the world.

That's millions of people.

The governemtn couldn't cover up Gulf War syndrome, what makes you think that they could cover up something so much greater?

You call that a rebuttal?

Weak...very weak.

You claimed that I said something, then quoted me saying something completely different.

You're self rebutting.

Not only haven't you source your arguments, you haven't even read the comments that you're arguing about properly.

Whether I'm referring to the other thread is irrelevant, you know exactly what I'm talking about so stop your infantile damage control.

To quote myself:

There is zero evidence that the vax weakens you against other illness,

So, it's not a contradiction, it's you not reading what I said properly.

That's a contradiction, as 1 in anything is more than zero and moderate side effects aren't no side effects.

It's zero when it comes to weakening you against other diseases. As per my original post.

It's 1 in 5,000 when it comes to other moderate side effects, such as heart palpitations requiring bed rest, and 1 in 50,000 when it comes to more serious side effects such as pronounced heart inflammation. Also per my original post.

That's twice now you've made a fool of yourself and erased any chance of me trusting your information -

That's twice you doubled down on no having read my original comment properly. VAIDS = 0 reported cases. It's not a real thing,

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: InwardDiver

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

....And you are Just Finding this Out ? The EXACT DAY that Vaccines were Pushed on an Uninformed Public was the Day to Figure this All Out . Geez....

One can suspect or hypothesize but without empirical data it's nearly impossible to figure something out such as this immediately as something happens.

Strange, I did. I researched how this new injection worked. Then with my knowledge of microbiology coupled with a healthy dose of common sense I instantly decided that too many things have not been thought through enough for me to just hold my arm up with teary eyes and beg for this experiment to be injected into my blood stream.

All the things I worried about came true later. So there is that.

I'd be happy to discuss the various aspects of microbiology with you as related to the vax.

It would make a refreshing change from the math and stats that we normally get on these boards.

a reply to: Godabove09

I see that you haven't quoted the other thread, or linked to it.

But that's how you do things, you make vague references and never follow through.

So, link please?

originally posted by: Godabove09

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Godabove09

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Godabove09

Hang on, first you said "zero evidence" that it causes "any damage".

Now, you are saying 1 in 5000 have a "moderate" reaction and 1 in 50,000 have a "moderate to serious" reaction.

From my original comment:

here is zero evidence that the vax weakens you against other illness,

You quoted that exact section, yet you don't seem to have read it.

Maybe, my arithmetic is off or I'm confused, but 1 (in whatever) is not zero - and "moderate" and "moderate to serious" don't qualify as not causing "any damage".

It's not your math, it's your reading. Zero evidence that it weakens you against other diseases.

P.S where did you get those numbers from?

Sources are in my signature.

and if it's WHO or something similar you'll be laughed at,

It's actually one the top Israeli institutes. So, not WHO.

The stuff about keeping a secret being impossible and blah blah blah is so inane and unworthy of serious consideration that you should be embarrassed to post such drivel.

In order to keep something like this secret you'd need to bride or threaten every coroner in the US who would have access to evidence of harm caused by the vax. You'd also need to bribe or threaten their equivalents overseas. As well as the academics and journalists who report on this, the NGOs who provide things like AIDS studies, in every country all over the world.

That's millions of people.

The governemtn couldn't cover up Gulf War syndrome, what makes you think that they could cover up something so much greater?

You call that a rebuttal?

Weak...very weak.

You claimed that I said something, then quoted me saying something completely different.

You're self rebutting.

Not only haven't you source your arguments, you haven't even read the comments that you're arguing about properly.

Blatant lie...provably untrue.

Let's see, I said that there is zero evidence that VAIDS existed, and you claimed that I said that there were no side effects.

It's easy to prove. Here's a link to my original comment Link

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: AaarghZombies
You're right, it wasn't a question, it was rather a statement. It started with Let's agree we disagree... so put in a little effort and make it something waiting for an answer... as I think everyone assumed :-)
And again, you're right: they're not hiding anything... the big media just don't pick up on it... anything negative about mRNA vaccines is censored or pushed into a corner somewhere... I should be more careful with my words with you. You pick out the weakest point and then you hammer on it. Excellent technique for taking something down. A technique I don't like. But hey, everyone is different. I hope you don't mind me not responding to your comments anymore...it's useless. The way I see it, you're too sure about the safety of the vaccines... and I have my doubts about that safety. So let's agree we disagree...

We can agree to disagree, and it's your business if you don't want to get the shot, but what I take exception to is people (anybody) misrepresenting things to scare other people. In short, I'm against the doom porn.

I'm not sure what big media you're accessing, but where I live the big media absolutely wouldn't shut up about the vax causing blood clots in women. In fact my government changed it's vax campaign to use a different vax because of problems with blood clots. It wasn't covered up at all. It was all done in the open. The data was available, and when the government saw a problem it acted on it. My government wasn't the only one. Most European governments also changed their vaxxing program because of the early data on side effects.

Most of the rest isn't being censored because it's not true, it's doom porn, and the media simply isn't amplifying it. Take the OP, their source shows that people in an area that was hit heavily by covid early on got vaxxed early on, and that the people with the greatest risk were vaxxed first and in the greatest numbers. It also shows that they died in greater numbers, because they were at a greater risk and the vax isn't 100 percent effective.

The big media report on things like this every day. What they don't report is that the vax increase your risk of death, because it doesn't. People who are at the greatest risk simply get vaxxed more.

The numbers that people are putting forward simply aren't credible. They would mean millions of dead, and 10s of millions involved in the cover up.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Godabove09

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Godabove09

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Godabove09

Hang on, first you said "zero evidence" that it causes "any damage".

Now, you are saying 1 in 5000 have a "moderate" reaction and 1 in 50,000 have a "moderate to serious" reaction.

From my original comment:

here is zero evidence that the vax weakens you against other illness,

You quoted that exact section, yet you don't seem to have read it.

Maybe, my arithmetic is off or I'm confused, but 1 (in whatever) is not zero - and "moderate" and "moderate to serious" don't qualify as not causing "any damage".

It's not your math, it's your reading. Zero evidence that it weakens you against other diseases.

P.S where did you get those numbers from?

Sources are in my signature.

and if it's WHO or something similar you'll be laughed at,

It's actually one the top Israeli institutes. So, not WHO.

The stuff about keeping a secret being impossible and blah blah blah is so inane and unworthy of serious consideration that you should be embarrassed to post such drivel.

In order to keep something like this secret you'd need to bride or threaten every coroner in the US who would have access to evidence of harm caused by the vax. You'd also need to bribe or threaten their equivalents overseas. As well as the academics and journalists who report on this, the NGOs who provide things like AIDS studies, in every country all over the world.

That's millions of people.

The governemtn couldn't cover up Gulf War syndrome, what makes you think that they could cover up something so much greater?

You call that a rebuttal?

Weak...very weak.

You claimed that I said something, then quoted me saying something completely different.

You're self rebutting.

Not only haven't you source your arguments, you haven't even read the comments that you're arguing about properly.

Whether I'm referring to the other thread is irrelevant, you know exactly what I'm talking about so stop your infantile damage control.

To quote myself:

There is zero evidence that the vax weakens you against other illness,

So, it's not a contradiction, it's you not reading what I said properly.

That's a contradiction, as 1 in anything is more than zero and moderate side effects aren't no side effects.

It's zero when it comes to weakening you against other diseases. As per my original post.

It's 1 in 5,000 when it comes to other moderate side effects, such as heart palpitations requiring bed rest, and 1 in 50,000 when it comes to more serious side effects such as pronounced heart inflammation. Also per my original post.

That's twice now you've made a fool of yourself and erased any chance of me trusting your information -

That's twice you doubled down on no having read my original comment properly. VAIDS = 0 reported cases. It's not a real thing,

I'm not going to re-type the same thing a fourth time.

You contradicted yourself, everyone sees it, end of discussion.

There is nothing to be gained by engaging with you.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Godabove09

I see that you haven't quoted the other thread, or linked to it.

But that's how you do things, you make vague references and never follow through.

So, link please?

Link for what, you strange person?

I haven't made any claims, I've highlighted the inconsistency of yours.

You don't catch on very quickly, do you?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: AaarghZombies
You're right, it wasn't a question, it was rather a statement. It started with Let's agree we disagree... so put in a little effort and make it something waiting for an answer... as I think everyone assumed :-)
And again, you're right: they're not hiding anything... the big media just don't pick up on it... anything negative about mRNA vaccines is censored or pushed into a corner somewhere... I should be more careful with my words with you. You pick out the weakest point and then you hammer on it. Excellent technique for taking something down. A technique I don't like. But hey, everyone is different. I hope you don't mind me not responding to your comments anymore...it's useless. The way I see it, you're too sure about the safety of the vaccines... and I have my doubts about that safety. So let's agree we disagree...

We can agree to disagree, and it's your business if you don't want to get the shot, but what I take exception to is people (anybody) misrepresenting things to scare other people. In short, I'm against the doom porn.

I'm not sure what big media you're accessing, but where I live the big media absolutely wouldn't shut up about the vax causing blood clots in women. In fact my government changed it's vax campaign to use a different vax because of problems with blood clots. It wasn't covered up at all. It was all done in the open. The data was available, and when the government saw a problem it acted on it. My government wasn't the only one. Most European governments also changed their vaxxing program because of the early data on side effects.

Most of the rest isn't being censored because it's not true, it's doom porn, and the media simply isn't amplifying it. Take the OP, their source shows that people in an area that was hit heavily by covid early on got vaxxed early on, and that the people with the greatest risk were vaxxed first and in the greatest numbers. It also shows that they died in greater numbers, because they were at a greater risk and the vax isn't 100 percent effective.

The big media report on things like this every day. What they don't report is that the vax increase your risk of death, because it doesn't. People who are at the greatest risk simply get vaxxed more.

The numbers that people are putting forward simply aren't credible. They would mean millions of dead, and 10s of millions involved in the cover up.

Tell me you shill for big pharma without telling me you shill for big pharma.

a reply to: Godabove09

The number of shills they have to employ must be eating into the profits by now.
We already know that Tedros boss of the WHO hasn't been vaccinated did you actually get his reason for not having it? it is because since he is from Ethiopia and they haven't got that much he is waiting until they do. www.bitchute.com... I love a good joke

a reply to: zandra

Remember that the shots were rolled out on the elderly first to make them appear to be affective.

Then it took them over a year to be honest about the results.

Genetic Manipulation

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I'm not sure what big media you're accessing, but where I live the big media absolutely wouldn't shut up about the vax causing blood clots in women. In fact my government changed it's vax campaign to use a different vax because of problems with blood clots. It wasn't covered up at all. It was all done in the open. The data was available, and when the government saw a problem it acted on it. My government wasn't the only one. Most European governments also changed their vaxxing program because of the early data on side effects.

I wonder if you would regard evidence that the vaccine can change a persons DNA as a moderate side effect?

In her decision, Judge Zanda criticized the efficacy and safety of the “experimental” vaccine, stating that their possible harmful effects are not fully known. In addition, the Judge mentioned evidence that the injections are “so invasive that they infiltrate and change the cellular DNA of people who have been “vaccinated.” Judge Zanda cited article 32 of the Constitution that “after the experience of Nazi-Fascism,” one cannot “sacrifice a single individual for the collective interest.” Furthermore, it does it allow an individual “to be subjected to invasive medical trials without free, informed consent.”

source

And why can't I find any information on you tube or google regarding such
information?

Let me guess the Judge has no idea what she's talking about? She's part of
conspiracy against vaccines? Or she's writing a book? Or some stupid sh1t.IDK