Covid mrna and psychology

Why should most people dare to change or at least question their stance on mRNA vaccines? The references for that are piling up.
totalityofevidence.com...

Why don't these people do that? This is a psychological tangle that psychologists have been trying to untangle for decades. (Just one link out of hundreds.)
greatergood.berkeley.edu...

a reply to: zandra

You know what would be funny as all hell? If unvaccinated people decided to ALL quit their jobs because they are being exposed to hazardous people at their work place without getting hazard pay. Honestly, If I was working with people who were vaccinated I would demand hazard pay. After all you don't know what the hell those people are any more. Plus the effect it is having on you as an individual.

The human body is amazing after all, when you are a woman and around other women long enough your cycles sync. So there's no question that someone who was vaccinated and lost fertility wouldn't affect your own. Of course it would, it is the same as when someone throw's up around you, or starts gagging. The need to gag and/or throw up becomes prevalent.

The human body adopts it's behavior based on the majority around you. There is very little question about that fact, but the next thing to ponder is even if you aren't vaccinated. Who's to say your body isn't starting to replicate (like a virus) the behavior of someone else? Our bodies are designed for 'herd' lifestyle and they will act the same as someone else.

This is why they encourage visits and you hear of 'magical recoveries' in thing's like cancer and other illnesses. Because if you come in contact with someone who has beaten cancer, or has a resistance to cancer and they happen to be 'radiating' the right frequency. Their body signal's to someone who is suffering from the same disease and kinda imprints/teaches it how to deal with itself. In fact, there's a complete history of people randomly being better from various ailments after encountering 'certain people' who they don't know. They often get referred to as 'angels'. But in reality, it is just they encountered someone who's vibrating on the same wave as their own but has the 'cure' inside them already active.

This is why everything from physical to mental can be altered based on who you hang out with. This is also the main reason why it is so easy to control people. Because all it takes is controlling the right one's in order to force your will on them all.

So you ask if people should question themselves on their stances on vaccines. Course they should, but no one wan'ts to be the 'first' to do so in a set group. Because that throw's the mentality out of whack, and then there's biases and fear's the person has to pay attention to. Not to mention self credibility for 'flip flopping'. Real people who don't follow the herd and grew up questioning everything, will always question everything. While those that grew up submitting to everyone else will remain the same. People won't question themselves or their biased views.

As a Non-vaccinated person, I did question myself if I was doing the right thing, considering I don't have an immune system. I felt the guilt put on me by others, when my entire family decided to get vaccinated. But I decided to be my own person and choose for myself. While they all 'grouped together' to get it done by the advice of 1 doctor. I decided to wait, read research and information.

I've been screwed over by doctors my entire life. I'm not about to start trusting anything they say on their word alone they are not fool proof, they are humans. I won't even listen until they 'earn' that trust by proving to me they are more then a big pharma lapdogs. Which VERY few doctor's actually have, if they don't even think of offering me an alternative to medications. I dismiss them 100%.

I learned to always go to a doctor's appointment prepared, because here's the thing. The minute you go into an office prepared, and don't start off spouting 'vaccines are bad'. But talking about other treatment options, for thing's that might be viable to you. A good doctor will interact with you, so before you get put on those statins. See if your doctor recommends 'red yeast rice', or apple cider vinegar both which don't take over your body's physical process making your body need it for life. While both of those options especially the second, and adding other 'fermented' style foods to your diet can literally erase the need for those drugs in about a month's time.. You will see that most doctor's won't step out of big pharma's statin solution.

A good doctor, will tell you to try those options first - and if it gets worse then will recommend medications. Or if it is really really bad they will start you on a dose so low it doesn't have the strength to take over your body's natural process the only thing it will do is "aid" you from 'getting worse' while you are working on getting your body under control. But they should first and foremost give you recommendations on how to help your own body heal itself before changing your chemical makeup forever. Because a lot of those medication's and drugs you will never come back from. The vaccine is also included in this.

Thank you.
Things you say are not new to me but now I see that indeed there are some dots I can connect ...

a reply to: zandra

I would say that the overwhelming majority of highly vocal pro-vaccine messaging you see at this point isn't real. It's parroting, bots, people who's career depends on it, and people with little to do but defend some imaginary "The Science".

There is growing discomfort since they decided to approve and promote widespread vaccination of children, within the medical community and the very agencies that do it. It's incredibly unfortunate and sanity can't be restored soon enough for thousands of children already harmed. Every day this is allowed to continue is another day a kid may die or be permanently harmed by an ineffective immune therapeutic for a disease they are at virtually no risk of having serious illness from. All without true informed consent, all without genuine effort uncovering adverse effects.

Zero clinical justification. People should be going to prison for this.

originally posted by: zandra
Why should most people dare to change or at least question their stance on mRNA vaccines? The references for that are piling up.
totalityofevidence.com...

Why don't these people do that? This is a psychological tangle that psychologists have been trying to untangle for decades. (Just one link out of hundreds.)
greatergood.berkeley.edu...

I admit that in the early days I was highly sceptical of you anti-vaxers but then ya’ll started posting these high quality links to well known scientific websites like the totality of evidence and now I’m convinced there is a conspiracy.

a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

You were skeptical of “anti vaxers” because that exact same appeal to authority that has now changed your mind, was pushing you to be so in the first place.

I looked into Mrna vaccines BEFORE I got mine. The science seemed legit with what I was taught in biology class in high school. MRNA vaccines are new, but the science is not.

I got vaxed and boosted. Feel fine. Have since the vax. Have not have Covid, but lots of people I know have.

Some were vaccinated, some were not.

So, get vaxed, or don't. It's your body and you do what you feel is right.

But again, some here were saying how people would be dropping like flies. Some claim they already are. All I know is, I'm not seeing it. And EVERYONE I work with has been vaccinated. NOT ONE PROBLEM.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

You were skeptical of “anti vaxers” because that exact same appeal to authority that has now changed your mind, was pushing you to be so in the first place.

Exactly ya’ll, for a long time I was a sheep believing all these qualified scientists and their facts about the safety of the jab but then I discovered more informed Doctors like Doctor Sue on YouTube who specialises in Rieki healing and acupuncture. She’s says the whole think stinks to high heaven and if a doctor of Reiki says that, well it’s good enough for me.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I looked into Mrna vaccines BEFORE I got mine. The science seemed legit with what I was taught in biology class in high school. MRNA vaccines are new, but the science is not.

I got vaxed and boosted. Feel fine. Have since the vax. Have not have Covid, but lots of people I know have.

Some were vaccinated, some were not.

So, get vaxed, or don't. It's your body and you do what you feel is right.

But again, some here were saying how people would be dropping like flies. Some claim they already are. All I know is, I'm not seeing it. And EVERYONE I work with has been vaccinated. NOT ONE PROBLEM.

Statistically speaking, Dr Sue say’s you’ll be dead in the next hundred years - don’t say we didn’t warn you!

originally posted by: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

You were skeptical of “anti vaxers” because that exact same appeal to authority that has now changed your mind, was pushing you to be so in the first place.

Exactly ya’ll, for a long time I was a sheep believing all these qualified scientists and their facts about the safety of the jab

The Tuskegee victims did too. Don't blame yourself.
www.cdc.gov...

Maybe your next booster will be your last.
Or maybe you will still be alive in the year 2122.
Science is unpredictable ...
Btw I know some people who had a problem with mrna vaccines. One died (RIP my friend))
.. the other: myocarditis (very worrying).
Then I know a lot acquaintances who whine about coughing and fatigue ... but that seems natural to me ... although i'm not sure...

originally posted by: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

originally posted by: zandra
Why should most people dare to change or at least question their stance on mRNA vaccines? The references for that are piling up.
totalityofevidence.com...

Why don't these people do that? This is a psychological tangle that psychologists have been trying to untangle for decades. (Just one link out of hundreds.)
greatergood.berkeley.edu...

I admit that in the early days I was highly sceptical of you anti-vaxers but then ya’ll started posting these high quality links to well known scientific websites like the totality of evidence and now I’m convinced there is a conspiracy.

The biggest threat to your existence is a thing called idiolect.

It's very dangerous and if untreated it can spread to other accounts you log into.

Perhaps you should consult a linguist before it's too late.

Aa reply to: surfer_soul
Amen ...
Keep in mind:
Cynical people lack dignity ... (not my words) ...

I like this Barbara girl. Welcome.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
I like this Barbara girl. Welcome.

Gee I wonder who "they" are.

a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

I Ididn’t realise you were being sarcastic until you replied to me. The jabs don’t stop you from getting it or passing it on, because of that, what they do in a nut shell is cause the virus to adapt and mutate. Effectively bypassing the antibodies the jabs are producing and potentially causing the virus to become more deadly in the process.

Let’s hope that doesn’t happen though huh y’all?

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Gee I wonder who "they" are.

I would assume some girl named Barbara. My name is Joe.

a reply to: LordAhriman

lol you just said you havnt been jabbed in 15 months and you are considered unvaccinated.

Hmm I wonder why?

Dont you believe all those qualified drs and scientists? Because if you havnt been jabbed in 15 months it means you dont believe its safe or effective at all.

It is what it is..

If you believed all those credible drs and scientist you would be vaxxed its not like its hard to get vaxxed or boosted at Wal mart pharmacy where you work every day.

Admit it you think that vax is crap.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I looked into Mrna vaccines BEFORE I got mine. The science seemed legit with what I was taught in biology class in high school. MRNA vaccines are new, but the science is not.

I got vaxed and boosted. Feel fine. Have since the vax. Have not have Covid, but lots of people I know have.

Some were vaccinated, some were not.

So, get vaxed, or don't. It's your body and you do what you feel is right.

But again, some here were saying how people would be dropping like flies. Some claim they already are. All I know is, I'm not seeing it. And EVERYONE I work with has been vaccinated. NOT ONE PROBLEM.

A lot of vaxxed people where I work have recently tested positive and are off work now for a bit. I'm not jabbed and haven't ever got sick.
So, a lot of different scenarios.

Oh yes, to add, I know everyone there who refused the jab and none of them have gotten sick.

originally posted by: just4fun

I believe it is safe, and it was effective against the variants that it was developed for. I believe a booster may provide some protection against Omichron, but that I didn't really need that protection for the same reason that I have never had a flu shot. I didn't care if I caught it.

Back to safety. I can't think of anyone in my immediate friends and family who is not vaccinated. I can view records of who and who isn't vaccinated at work, and I'd say about 80% of the ~350 employees are vaccinated.

Not. One. Single. Problem.