There are now Many CONFIRMED Nov 2020 Election Illegalities and Irregularities.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: network dude

You say just about everyone in government have adopted the idea that there was no fraud. I disagree. Both sides - the entire government - knows it is real. One side is still lying about it and the other is trying to prove it.

There is a BIG giant elephant in the compromised elections discussion that no one wants to touch at all. Even here I never see it discussed....

Everyone knows when it comes to high stakes situations, the motto that most humans follow is "if you can't beat them join them,"

We also know that the uni party has been running the show for as long as we have all been alive.

Add those two things up and what is the most likely outcome??? Both parties have been doing all of this fraudulent election stuff for generations. Pay to play isn't just happening once you get into office. Its HOW they get into office.

Also consider, if there are illegal ballot harvesting operations you think the street level criminals care who is elected or do you think they're going to offer their services to both sides?

Also, who exactly is going to fight for election integrity if 75% of them know how they got into office in the first place?

Look at some of the truly HORRIBLE politicians who have been in office for 40-50-60 years, a lot of them a career in politics runs in the family, what are the odds your kid is capable of running government, just because you did? Unlikely. But if you control the levers to get elected in your corner of the country, what are you going to do when you're getting to old? Slide the scion in next. This is how American political dynasties are established and maintained.

This is America. EVERYTHING is for sale and everything is corruptible, but not elections? Come on. When we all sit down and really look at ourselves in the mirror and ask ourselves why is the world the way it is, doesn't this reality make a lot more sense if this is how we got here?

There is SO MUCH plausible deniability and chaos in elections that its absurd to think rigging elections is a line to far for either party, let alone only one party (lololol) as opposed to standard operating procedure.

Until folks are REALLY ready to have this conversation, there will never ever be a true movement to bring about election integrity.

Even more to the point, I've spent a lot of time over my life trying to imagine a scenario where i could ever have absolute trust and faith in an election. Its not possible. Every single feasible method relies on human involvement and ANYTHING humans touch can and will be corrupted.

If we're not ready to deal with these likely scenarios, no one (on either side) actually wants election integrity, they just want their side to start cheating better than the other side...

As for how Trump got elected... he was a mistake, an anomaly that wasn't supposed to happen (as you can see by team Hillary's 6 year meltdown) an under estimation that will most likely never be allowed to happen again.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: UpThenDown

I won't click on any mother jones links, I dont need any propaganda thanks

What, and yet you post something from JustTheNews?

Media-Bias-Fact-Check - Just-The-News

But for balance, here:

Media-Bias-Fact-Check - Mother-Jones

Here's a concept: perhaps there are some really biased news sites on both sides of this stuff?

Heres a thought maybe you both actually address the information instead of shooting messengers. Especially when the message links to the actual verification of each item on the list.

Nah, you all love the merry go round instead. Best part is forcing the rest of us on it so we can all go round and round.

originally posted by: TheEndOfItAll
Don't you have any legit sources? Why do you always use fake news websites?

If the devil tells you the sky is blue and points up as proof, does the sky change colors simply because the devil said it?

Every single one of those items is linked to verifiable sources and cases.

You folks look ridiculous when you do this obvious nonsense.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
800,000 votes appearing after the polls closed in PA that happened to push Biden ahead was completely legit. Republicans would never use a drop box, it's so pedestrian.

If you truly believe that, I have a bridge in New York I will sell you for an excellent price.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: nugget1
I would LOVE to see some accountability, but am afraid to get my hopes up too high. Having it actually reported on MSM-although briefly- without an 'Orange Man Bad' spin is encouraging.

I think it's far too late to do anything about the last election, but going forward it could make a big difference for future election integrity....or they'll just find a better way to subvert the process.

Many states began making changes for the 2022 mid-term elections after these election violations and cheatings started coming to light last year.

This is long, but look under each state (Enactments by State) for what's being done, and it's easier to digest: www.ncsl.org...

It's like here in Georgia

one one hand the officials say the election was secure and no irregularities

but since the elections

big changes for voting in Georgia

Right... they think we are STUPID.

Georgia is a mixture of both election fraud and corrupt top politicians. Dominion paid big money to Gov Kemp and SecOfState Raffensperger for choosing them over competitors, to supply the software and machines for the 2020 elections in the state. (Illegal kickbacks)

So both men are willing to crack down on the paper ballot fraud and require Voter-ID, but are keeping everyone away from questioning Dominion Machine/Software. They're walking a tightrope.

originally posted by: xuenchen
My God if the mass cheating is ever revealed, the whole Damn system falls !!!!!! Way too many "new" Constitutional decisions would have to be court tested !!!!! Recalls !! Reversals of invalidated laws !! Precedents declared struck !! State and Federal certifications rendered fake !!😀

The man who became the leader of the free world thanks to the best "election fraud organization" in history, openly bragged about it just 2 weeks before the election, because he knew by then, with Democrats in charge of Congress, and CISA.gov corruption in place, there was no chance the fraud would be stopped.

originally posted by: Gratcast

originally posted by: TheEndOfItAll
Don't you have any legit sources? Why do you always use fake news websites?

If the devil tells you the sky is blue and points up as proof, does the sky change colors simply because the devil said it?

Every single one of those items is linked to verifiable sources and cases.

You folks look ridiculous when you do this obvious nonsense.

No they don't, you are just an an id**t who refuses to look at actual evidence that has disputed any evidence that you trumptards keep bringing forth. Oh yeh and the only voter fraud that has been actually proven has come from your side but hey you keep believing the big lie, does not matter to me. It just makes you guys look like morons.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: nugget1
I would LOVE to see some accountability, but am afraid to get my hopes up too high. Having it actually reported on MSM-although briefly- without an 'Orange Man Bad' spin is encouraging.

I think it's far too late to do anything about the last election, but going forward it could make a big difference for future election integrity....or they'll just find a better way to subvert the process.

Many states began making changes for the 2022 mid-term elections after these election violations and cheatings started coming to light last year.

This is long, but look under each state (Enactments by State) for what's being done, and it's easier to digest: www.ncsl.org...

It's like here in Georgia

one one hand the officials say the election was secure and no irregularities

but since the elections

big changes for voting in Georgia

Right... they think we are STUPID.

But you are. You continue to use websites that are either, lying, twisting the truth or make crap up because they know that whatever narrative, no matter how ridiculous, you guys will believe anything, just as long as it makes the other side look evil.

a reply to: carewemust


From what i read practically none of them prevent the ballot harvesting and muling tricks that were brought to light with 2000 mules...

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: carewemust

Is there an validiaty to Steve Bannons recent 'hot mic' or is he a known liar?

Steve Bannon touting Trump's plan to declare victory on election night even if he LOST

'What Trump's gonna do is just declare victory, right. He’s gonna declare victory. But that doesn’t mean he’s the winner, he’s just gonna say he’s a winner,' Bannon laughed on the tape.

At 10 or 11 o’clock Trump’s gonna walk in the Oval, tweet out, "I’m the winner. Game over. Suck on that,"' Bannon said. And if Biden was somehow up in the polls late on Tuesday evening, Bannon told his associates that Trump would simply claim election fraud - which he also did in his infamous speech. 'It's going to be even crazier,' Bannon said, with the crowd laughing again. 'Because he's going to sit there and say they stole it.'

it seems both sides were willing to/did bend the rules, ALL politicians are bent, crooked and vile, sorry if you have a favorite but I cant stand ANY of them.

The problem with branon is that he is a huge narcists with no real skills to call his own. I never liked him or trusted him for some reason. Then he got close to the WH and his true colors started to show. He hates other peoples success and the attention they get for it. There is a reason no one at breitbart likes him or the WH.

a reply to: carewemust

Everybody knows the election was stolen on November 3rd, 2020. People are either happy about it( although probably not nearly as many or as happy today than then) or they're angry about it. Even more angry today. More people and more angry.
Biden's just a complete ass#.

originally posted by: S2022
VERY Simple Solution

Paper ballots, ID required, thumb in purple ink, only voting on election day in person.

Period.

So sorry if you can not make it.

But this is all too easy to fix, and how would they ever steal it?

This! This is how many countries do it. It prevents cheating on a large scale ensures the election results are accurate and verifiable. Anyone advocating for anything other than that is flat out arguing to keep a cheating vector active.

Mail in voting should exist only by request and it should be for serious reasons only. Nursing home resident early voting should be done in the same fashion as the normal polling places. Just as line out above - not some random operatives sent to nursing home X who all vote for Biden. The votes need to be legitimate not pushed by nursing aid X on dementia patient Y.

It is a damn shame what they were allowed to get away with in 2020. They will do it again in 2022 to try and save some key swing seats and they will go full blast in 2024 after getting away with it already.

originally posted by: S2022
VERY Simple Solution

Paper ballots, ID required, thumb in purple ink, only voting on election day in person.

Period.

So sorry if you can not make it.

But this is all too easy to fix, and how would they ever steal it?

Ok, so you go to the polls and Democrat poll watchers chase off the Indies and R's watchers and threaten the lives in say Chicago or NYC. They will simply adjust the style to the "new rules". They don't need no stinkin' rules! Something like that happened I thought in Philly a few elections back. FF can correct me.

originally posted by: S2022
VERY Simple Solution

Paper ballots, ID required, thumb in purple ink, only voting on election day in person.

Period.

So sorry if you can not make it.

But this is all too easy to fix, and how would they ever steal it?

One major obvious problem is the remote vote counting. All votes should counted at location only to reduce "intercepted and lost (and mysteriously found)" ballots and deliberate "miscounts" by remote machines and transmission "methods" 😀

a reply to: TheEndOfItAll

Well I for one am enjoying the product shortages and the high price increases and mass confusion that didn't exist with Trump policies.

All those policies that increased living standards for Citizens was a real problem wasn't it 😀

Violations any time the other side wins I assume? reply to: carewemust

a reply to: carewemust

They know we are stupid...as a whole.

You do not have to convince those who are against something to vote, you have to convince those who will not vote something is out to get them. Like sheep...

Being able to continue to vote and count after election day just shows it was not a proper election. Multiple states have been found to have passed or not followed procedure.

It is not about overturning anything. Congress and Pence knew all they had to do was certify. 2016 election was Russia Russia Russia remember? But trying to question 2020 became sedition.

The true coup was Milley. Why no one is looking further into his actions is beyond me.

ALL the controlling authorities were in on the take, which is why all legal challenges in 2020 were stifled. Whether under orders or under fear of reprisal, on the take. DAs, judges, LE, sec. of states, everyone.

a reply to: carewemust

You know what?

The Democrats/the left as a majority are the ones pushing for lies and disinformation in every aspect of our daily lives. including the 2020 election and future elections.

The Democrats/left, including RINOs who have sided with Democrats/the left, are denying facts in every topic and to me it seems that the very same people claiming that "anyone who does not agree with their views is insane and a threat to democracy" are the ones who are actually insane and a real threat to Constitutional and representative REPUBLICS and other free western countries like the U.S.

There is plenty of evidence that there was massive voter fraud.

The fact that Zuckerberg, and other leftists were able to circumvent donation laws and were able to give millions of dollars to help only DEMOCRATS/THE LEFT to have a lot more drop boxes in democrat areas during elections and Zuckerberg was able to demand that only or mostly democrat areas should have more drop boxes is enough to have changed the election outcome. This was done ILLEGALLY, yet democrats/the left claim this is okay.

Even when such money, which was collected and used in illegal ways, was also used to hire criminals as mules to harvest and convince people to either vote democrat by lying to them, such as these mules lying to elderly people telling them "Trump is going to take away social security/medicare/medicaid from you", or they simply convince elderly people or others by other means to give up their mail-in ballots meanwhile these are the same people, together with DEMOCRAT LEADERS, who want to give social security, medicare, medicaid to all including illegals which will destroy these programs. This alone is more than enough to have changed the election results.

But there were other shenanigans that occurred during the 2020 election which should have called into question the "results" of the 2020 election.

But the thing is, DEMOCRATS/the left are the very same people pushing for other lies as "truth" in every aspect of our lives. If you believe only women can get pregnant, you are trans-phobic and ignore the fact that by claiming biological males can be women and can get pregnant that you are denying real women rights...

If you don't believe in human induced climate change, despite the fact that for decades the scientist/activists pushing for this lie have had to lie for decades, they have had to erase raw temperature data, they have been changing temperature data across the world to keep pushing for this lie to implement the most drastic changes in western nations that will destroy the economies of every single western nation, and will change them into the poorest third world countries.

Democrats/the left as a majority are making lies into truth to completely destroy western nations, and the values of Christian-Judeo, and other religious values, that democrats/the left want to completely destroy/ban. Of course, except a very small section of religious values. Because if you are a Muslim, only then do Democrats/the left as a majority want to allow you to keep your values.

There are people claiming day in and day out in these forums, and other social media, that none of this has to do with political affiliation but this is false. Only democrats/the left as a majority including in other countries are pushing for such lies as the truth.

If you DARE believe there was voter fraud in the U.S., among other shenanigans occurring, because the globalists/elitists are using such lies to implement drastic changes in western nations that most people in every single western nation do not want, you are being labeled a "criminal and a threat to world peace, and a threat to "SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST democracy."

a reply to: tkwasny

They only had to steal the election in 5-6 states, although many other democrat states must have also used some illegal harvesting to be able to get 81 million votes for China first Biden and Harris both who admitted they would destroy the U.S. with their policies. Meanwhile in most, if not all, other states Trump won by a large majority and even won minority votes more than almost any other former Republican POTUS.