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Top Bill Gates Virologist Predicts Deadlier COVID Variants For The Vaccinated In Looming Disaster

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posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

Updates regarding his credentials and accomplishments. Worth a glance.




posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70

This man was hired because he was smarter. Don’t get it that’s fine. Want to be obtuse that’s fine. Take the shot and give it to your family no matter how young.

It’s an IQ test.


So he is smarter than everyone else, right? He says no one is listening to him, so he must be the smartest in it all. Or...very smart people have looked at what he is saying and call BS on it.

This isn't an IQ test between me and him, it is just him against the world of virologists, get my point? I'm not saying from my personal views he is BS, I'm saying it from a plethora of really smart doctors and other virologists saying he is full of sh!t.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Aside from the Mdog video you shared, thank you by the way,
can you provide the proof that all of the other virologists are
call him a nut?

Thanks in advance.






posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70

This man was hired because he was smarter. Don’t get it that’s fine. Want to be obtuse that’s fine. Take the shot and give it to your family no matter how young.

It’s an IQ test.


So he is smarter than everyone else, right? He says no one is listening to him, so he must be the smartest in it all. Or...very smart people have looked at what he is saying and call BS on it.

This isn't an IQ test between me and him, it is just him against the world of virologists, get my point? I'm not saying from my personal views he is BS, I'm saying it from a plethora of really smart doctors and other virologists saying he is full of sh!t.




On this site I remember a time where people posted of micro biologists and scientists dying of mysterious circumstances in very massive amounts and people wondering what the end game was.

Do you?



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Xtrozero

I really can't find any holes in his theory, listened several times.

We might agree on the timeline though, I think the human body is
very resilient, so I doubt that in 2 months we will see a mass
casualty event, but even if we did they the controllers will
blame it on something else.

I personally know a lot of vaccinated folks, they all get Covid
often and are miserable now with other illnesses like colds
and flu. Cant argue with me on that, but your welcome to try.



I got COVID 2 months ago, lasted 2 days, I'm 62... 3 of my workers in their 30s that got COVID in the last 5 months all were 10+ days and really sick. I have seen this repeated many times over and over.

Where he is failing in is that vaccinations and boosters like we see with the flu shot are better than just letting everyone get it on a massive scale that will produce more variants in the end. Variants are created by the longevity in your system and the number of people infected. Vaccinated people are sick less days, like 2 or 3 typically, so they are able to beat it faster which has less chance for variants compared to unvac that can be sick 2 weeks.

Once again I'm not here to debate him, just even out his narratives with others that are also very smart and in the know at a much higher level than you or me.


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posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70
This vaccine was an IQ test.


Wouldnt "they" want to take out the smarter cautious ones though? Why save the disobedient?

*i wish the vaccine was "the mark of the beast"... that Revelations stuff is some scary feces, but not so much people jumped on that bandwagon
itd make a great movie



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: devilsadvocatetoday

Nice try. He also hires medical professionals who know their craft. He didn't hire this guy to be a janitor.



It seems he didn't work out very well.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 12:56 PM
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Ya, I’m not sure why him being a Veterinarian AND a virologist is a detriment.

An understanding of animal medicine is a plus.
Many viruses, including covid, cross over from animals to humans.

Vaccines incorporate animal matter in their ingredients.

I’m an engineer and have a construction degree. When I act in the capacity of an engineer I don’t get called out for being “Bob The Builder”. It’s actually viewed as an advantage.

They are reaching this time.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

More to think on for you:


Ya, that was his BS letter well over a year ago, not sure why we are not all dead by now as he said we would be.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: devilsadvocatetoday

Going to stretch my neck out and say he at least knows his way around a virus and has the pedigree to (intelligently) speak about viruses. If you disagree, please provide credentials so our viewing audience can better understand as to what validity your statements carry. We at least provided his credentials.



Knowing he way around is what makes him dangerous in his message. 50% true 50% BS is still BS. His foundations are true, but his opinions are false even though he is using his true foundations as proof. In his letter over a year ago he basically said we are all dead and he will not even have time to get his paper out in time. This was him against the world of Doctors and Virologists that it seems only he is correct, but here we still are.

That should tell you something...


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posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

I got COVID 2 months ago, lasted 2 days, I'm 62... 3 of my workers in their 30s that got COVID in the last 5 months all were 10+ days and really sick. I have seen this repeated many times over and over.



Were your co workers vaccinated?

I'm not, and had one Covid infection that was enough to say I was
infected with something, the other times I had no symptoms except
tiredness for two days. I am not one to say the virus is a hoax, and
again am not an anti vaxxer.

You asked earlier what was Dr. Bossche specific argument against
the RNA vaccines...



the only intervention that could ofer a perspective to end this pandemic (other than to let it run its disastrous course) is ...VACCINATION. Of course, the type of vaccines to be used would be completely different from conventional vaccines in that they’re not inducing the usual suspects, i.e., B and T cells, but NK cells. There is, indeed, compelling scientific evidence that these cells play a key role in facilitating complete elimination of Covid-19 at an early stage of infection in symptomatically infected subjects. NK cells are part of the cellular arm of our innate immune system and, alike natural Abs, they are capable of recognizing and attacking a broad and diversified spectrum of pathogenic agents. There is a sound scientific rationale to assume that it is possible to ‘prime’ NK cells in ways for them to recognize and kill Coronaviruses at large (include all their variants) at an early stage of infection. NK cells have increasingly been described to be endowed with the capacity to acquire immunological memory. By educating these cells in ways that enable them to durably recognize and target Coronavirus-infected cells, our immune system could be perfectly armed for a targeted attack to the universe of Coronaviruses prior to exposure. As NK cell-based immune defense provides sterilizing immunity and allows for broad- spectrum and fast protection, it is reasonable to assume that harnessing our innate immune cells is going to be the only type of human intervention left to halt the dangerous spread of highly infectious Covid-19 variants.
www.oregonlegislature.gov...

Can you argue with that and explain how he is wrong?



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

Aside from the Mdog video you shared, thank you by the way,
can you provide the proof that all of the other virologists are
call him a nut?

Thanks in advance.


If you Google his name and debunked there is a huge number of people that spoke out against him, I just made it easy with the video. I really do not want to invest the time to help you here as this was all talked about over a year ago. You can believe him all you want, I'm just saying his letter over a year ago was false and he is now coming back to say the same damn thing again.

Its like I said the world will end in 4 months then I kind of disappear when it doesn't, then a year later I say the world will end in 4 months... What would you think of me?


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posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

If you Google his name and debunked there is a huge number of people that spoke out against him,


Most of them are just big pharma mouth offs, aside from maybe the Zdog video guy.



Its like I said the world will end in 4 months then I kind of disappear when it doesn't, then a year later I say the world will end in 4 months... What would you think of me?



Well, to be honest, he isn't wrong. The so called "vaccines" are not working,
they do not provide much protection from COVID, if any, and there are more
and more reports of sudden deaths, blood clots, and other people who are
speaking out about this and the cause pointing to the vaccines are just
silenced one way or another.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:16 PM
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The guy is a "former" Gate's Stooge, and he's promoting his own mysterious vax product that's supposed to kick covid to the kerb in short order.

Sorry, but if one of Gate's henchmen tells me that Super Covid is coming, and that only his Super Vax will save us, I'm not going to rush over to his wagon and buy what he's selling without something a little more concrete to go on.

OP, this this is exactly the kind of guy you usually post again.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Xtrozero

If you Google his name and debunked there is a huge number of people that spoke out against him,


Most of them are just big pharma mouth offs, aside from maybe the Zdog video guy.



Its like I said the world will end in 4 months then I kind of disappear when it doesn't, then a year later I say the world will end in 4 months... What would you think of me?



Well, to be honest, he isn't wrong. The so called "vaccines" are not working,
they do not provide much protection from COVID, if any, and there are more
and more reports of sudden deaths, blood clots, and other people who are
speaking out about this and the cause pointing to the vaccines are just
silenced one way or another.



Big pharma isn't always wrong.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70

On this site I remember a time where people posted of micro biologists and scientists dying of mysterious circumstances in very massive amounts and people wondering what the end game was.

Do you?


I been on this sit since 2007 and when is that end game coming? Seems every year as it doesn't come like we stuck in end game groundhog's day...lol

I will believe it when I see it, in either case nothing you or I can do about it anyways. We either live to a ripe old age or we die some horrible death from the NWO people. I'll just keep going as I always have, maybe head to South America if it gets rough.



posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

The guy is a "former" Gate's Stooge, and he's promoting his own mysterious vax product that's supposed to kick covid to the kerb in short order.


LOL, my point exactly. He has extensive credentials, and he is putting it all on
the line to sell something? With his bio, he could work anywhere and make $$$$$.




OP, this this is exactly the kind of guy you usually post again.


Thats funny, I've been here for over 15 years, pretty consistent in my postings.
They have not all been about COVID, so now you have zero argument, and decide
to try and attack me? I'll take that as a compliment!

Your posting history is very obviously sketchy, you disappeared for like 5 or 7 years
and only came back to attack any one questioning the COVID narrative.

Obvious is obvious!


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posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

Big pharma isn't always wrong.


Oh, so your here to defend Big Pharma now eh?
What a SURPRISE!




posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

Were your co workers vaccinated?


I guess I left that part out by mistake, they are unvac. My kids caught it in collage well over a year ago and they had 3 days of feeling bad and no smell for 5 days, so ya younger/healthier people really didn't need a vaccine. They still had to get the vaccine a year later otherwise they could not attend school, I wasn't happy about that. I'm really on the fence about who should get the vaccine and who should not. I don't think people under 30 and healthy need it and should just let it run it course, older than 30 people should think about it, and older than 50 most likely, and older than 65, you better get it.







the only intervention that could ofer a perspective to end this pandemic (other than to let it run its disastrous course) is ...VACCINATION. Of course, the type of vaccines to be used would be completely different from conventional vaccines in that they’re not inducing the usual suspects, i.e., B and T cells, but NK cells. There is, indeed, compelling scientific evidence that these cells play a key role in facilitating complete elimination of Covid-19 at an early stage of infection in symptomatically infected subjects. NK cells are part of the cellular arm of our innate immune system and, alike natural Abs, they are capable of recognizing and attacking a broad and diversified spectrum of pathogenic agents. There is a sound scientific rationale to assume that it is possible to ‘prime’ NK cells in ways for them to recognize and kill Coronaviruses at large (include all their variants) at an early stage of infection. NK cells have increasingly been described to be endowed with the capacity to acquire immunological memory. By educating these cells in ways that enable them to durably recognize and target Coronavirus-infected cells, our immune system could be perfectly armed for a targeted attack to the universe of Coronaviruses prior to exposure. As NK cell-based immune defense provides sterilizing immunity and allows for broad- spectrum and fast protection, it is reasonable to assume that harnessing our innate immune cells is going to be the only type of human intervention left to halt the dangerous spread of highly infectious Covid-19 variants.
www.oregonlegislature.gov...

Can you argue with that and explain how he is wrong?


I see nothing wrong with that statement and Natural Killer cells treatments are in the works as far as I can see.


Preliminary studies in COVID-19 patients with severe disease suggests a reduction in NK cell number and function, resulting in decreased clearance of infected and activated cells, and unchecked elevation of tissue-damaging inflammation markers. SARS-CoV-2 infection skews the immune response towards an overwhelmingly inflammatory phenotype. Restoration of NK cell effector functions has the potential to correct the delicate immune balance required to effectively overcome SARS-CoV-2 infection.


NCBI
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posted on Jun, 17 2022 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

Well, to be honest, he isn't wrong. The so called "vaccines" are not working,
they do not provide much protection from COVID, if any, and there are more
and more reports of sudden deaths, blood clots, and other people who are
speaking out about this and the cause pointing to the vaccines are just
silenced one way or another.



Well you do not know. What is the difference between sick for a few days compared to a few weeks to maybe hospital stay or death? In Oregon and Washington state all last year 90% of the people in hospitals were unvacced, and I follow it very closely reporting on it maybe 6 or 7 times throughout the year.

Now we are seeing information on lingering COVID issues with people that had it longer periods of time that allowed those nasty spike proteins to get everywhere for extended periods.

So did the vaccine save lives, reduce some exposer, reduce length of infection? I would say yes.



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