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Stormy’s mother says the difference was when her 2-year-old came to her and said, “I am a boy,” not, “I wanna be a boy.” At age 4, Stormy seems to have backed off a bit, telling the interviewer, “I feel like a boy and I wanna be a boy.” We’re not sure from this interview if there was more to it than Stormy saying, “I’m a boy,” but the parents decided to run with it, and now they have two boys.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: igloo
originally posted by: Annee
A child begins to have an innate sense of their gender identity between ages 3 and 5. Around this time, they also start to pick up on the subtle and not-so-subtle gender expectations in their family, their daycare, their church and their community.
For some children and youth, the gender expectations that are connected to the sex they were assigned at birth don’t match or fit. Some children and youth will clearly identify that their gender is actually the opposite of the sex they were assigned at birth, indicating a transgender identity. Other children and youth may feel more in the middle when it comes to gender expectations, indicating a gender expansive identity.
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I agree with you on this. I've known I was attracted to women since I was about four and never could identify with what "woman" was culturally but was ok with being female if I could mentally live in a more male world. I realized I was bisexual when I was older and attracted to the odd man too.
Still, the child's developing sense of gender is theirs alone and it really bothers me to see parents make such a call about their child so young. I've known a couple young people who seemed completely the opposite gender until puberty and then they became extremely aligned with their genetic gender. One girl even had childhood friends that were shocked she was a girl when meeting later in life.
So I don't think gender and sexuality are alien to children but their primitive form of it can be so easily distorted by wishful parents or worse, abused. I had orgasms that woke me out of my sleep as early as three years old. It was rare but thank god no adult decided I was "ready"
WOW! Thank you for an intelligent post.
I think we are born who we are. That our brain wiring (and other) tell us who we are. That no outside force can change it.
Humans are created like a big vat of soup -- you throw all the ingredients in and stir -- each batch is unique -- even though all the ingredients are the same.
I look back on the history of homosexuals. Especially homosexuals and religion. Each was born homosexual -- not a choice. Nurturing (if you wanna call it that) did not conquer nature. Same for gender dysphoria. I also support Fluid. Our bodies go through more changes than just puberty. I support human chemistry can change throughout our lives.
As far as parents -- some are going to push the current "trends" -- but I don't see much difference in this and parents that think they have the next Michael Jordan -- and pressure them in sports.
originally posted by: PorteurDeMort
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: PorteurDeMort
My question is how is this not child abuse? We do not allow children the right to participate in adult activities until 18 but they can transition at 2? These parents are sick and that child needs to be taken from them. I absolutely hate human garbage who ruin their children's lives with their disgusting agendas and ideology.
Do you know the difference between Gender and Sexual?
There's two genders and a host of mental illnesses and despite what you or any other rainbow warrior may think to the contrary, is biological fact. Sexual means pertaining to the act of sexual intercourse. What was your point?
originally posted by: igloo
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: igloo
originally posted by: Annee
A child begins to have an innate sense of their gender identity between ages 3 and 5. Around this time, they also start to pick up on the subtle and not-so-subtle gender expectations in their family, their daycare, their church and their community.
For some children and youth, the gender expectations that are connected to the sex they were assigned at birth don’t match or fit. Some children and youth will clearly identify that their gender is actually the opposite of the sex they were assigned at birth, indicating a transgender identity. Other children and youth may feel more in the middle when it comes to gender expectations, indicating a gender expansive identity.
www.chop.edu...#:~:text=A%20child%20begins%20to%20have%20an%20innate%20sense,famil y%2C%20their%20daycare%2C%20their%20church%20and%20their%20community.
I agree with you on this. I've known I was attracted to women since I was about four and never could identify with what "woman" was culturally but was ok with being female if I could mentally live in a more male world. I realized I was bisexual when I was older and attracted to the odd man too.
Still, the child's developing sense of gender is theirs alone and it really bothers me to see parents make such a call about their child so young. I've known a couple young people who seemed completely the opposite gender until puberty and then they became extremely aligned with their genetic gender. One girl even had childhood friends that were shocked she was a girl when meeting later in life.
So I don't think gender and sexuality are alien to children but their primitive form of it can be so easily distorted by wishful parents or worse, abused. I had orgasms that woke me out of my sleep as early as three years old. It was rare but thank god no adult decided I was "ready"
WOW! Thank you for an intelligent post.
I think we are born who we are. That our brain wiring (and other) tell us who we are. That no outside force can change it.
Humans are created like a big vat of soup -- you throw all the ingredients in and stir -- each batch is unique -- even though all the ingredients are the same.
I look back on the history of homosexuals. Especially homosexuals and religion. Each was born homosexual -- not a choice. Nurturing (if you wanna call it that) did not conquer nature. Same for gender dysphoria. I also support Fluid. Our bodies go through more changes than just puberty. I support human chemistry can change throughout our lives.
As far as parents -- some are going to push the current "trends" -- but I don't see much difference in this and parents that think they have the next Michael Jordan -- and pressure them in sports.
Yes, agree that people are born who they are. At my core, I am who I always was.
There is a big difference between thinking you have the next Michael Jordan and pushing children to change their sex as there are many stories out there of permanent damage done psychologically and physically by hormones/surgery. Supporting a child emotionally and respecting their decision is fine but hopefully not too many extreme parents will push their agenda on the child. This is why I feel the medical system needs to be responsible and take a slower approach, making trans youth wait longer and explore it through psychology long before any surgical/hormonal intervention. The botched surgeries are simply horrific and are in part why there is such a high rate of suicide amount young trans people.
originally posted by: Annee
Hormone blockers is a different story. They are needed at the unset of puberty.
Counseling for sure.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
Hormone blockers is a different story. They are needed at the unset of puberty.
Counseling for sure.
no. When the child is 18, or perhaps 21, depending on how we will classify "adults" in the future, then they can decide what steps to take to change themselves into something they aren't. But to allow a child who is likely influenced by others to make life altering decisions before totally realizing the ramifications of those actions is wrong.
It should be child abuse and punished if done. Kids are fickle and they don't fully develop mentally until they are in their 20's.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
Hormone blockers is a different story. They are needed at the unset of puberty.
Counseling for sure.
no. When the child is 18, or perhaps 21, depending on how we will classify "adults" in the future, then they can decide what steps to take to change themselves into something they aren't. But to allow a child who is likely influenced by others to make life altering decisions before totally realizing the ramifications of those actions is wrong.
It should be child abuse and punished if done. Kids are fickle and they don't fully develop mentally until they are in their 20's.
NO - you're wrong.
The hormone blockers are to stop the effects of puberty. The physical changes associated with gender.
Female's do not want or need an Adams Apple.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
Hormone blockers is a different story. They are needed at the unset of puberty.
Counseling for sure.
no. When the child is 18, or perhaps 21, depending on how we will classify "adults" in the future, then they can decide what steps to take to change themselves into something they aren't. But to allow a child who is likely influenced by others to make life altering decisions before totally realizing the ramifications of those actions is wrong.
It should be child abuse and punished if done. Kids are fickle and they don't fully develop mentally until they are in their 20's.
NO - you're wrong.
The hormone blockers are to stop the effects of puberty. The physical changes associated with gender.
Female's do not want or need an Adams Apple.
females won't get an adams apple. A dude in a dress may.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
Hormone blockers is a different story. They are needed at the unset of puberty.
Counseling for sure.
no. When the child is 18, or perhaps 21, depending on how we will classify "adults" in the future, then they can decide what steps to take to change themselves into something they aren't. But to allow a child who is likely influenced by others to make life altering decisions before totally realizing the ramifications of those actions is wrong.
It should be child abuse and punished if done. Kids are fickle and they don't fully develop mentally until they are in their 20's.
NO - you're wrong.
The hormone blockers are to stop the effects of puberty. The physical changes associated with gender.
Female's do not want or need an Adams Apple.
females won't get an adams apple. A dude in a dress may.
Chosen ignorance.
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
Hormone blockers is a different story. They are needed at the unset of puberty.
Counseling for sure.
no. When the child is 18, or perhaps 21, depending on how we will classify "adults" in the future, then they can decide what steps to take to change themselves into something they aren't. But to allow a child who is likely influenced by others to make life altering decisions before totally realizing the ramifications of those actions is wrong.
It should be child abuse and punished if done. Kids are fickle and they don't fully develop mentally until they are in their 20's.
NO - you're wrong.
The hormone blockers are to stop the effects of puberty. The physical changes associated with gender.
Female's do not want or need an Adams Apple.
females won't get an adams apple. A dude in a dress may.
Chosen ignorance.
Naw, it's reality
originally posted by: Moon68
a reply to: vonclod
Haven't you heard? War is peace, slavery is freedom, support the right delusion or you're an intolerant bigot.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: vonclod
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Annee
Hormone blockers is a different story. They are needed at the unset of puberty.
Counseling for sure.
no. When the child is 18, or perhaps 21, depending on how we will classify "adults" in the future, then they can decide what steps to take to change themselves into something they aren't. But to allow a child who is likely influenced by others to make life altering decisions before totally realizing the ramifications of those actions is wrong.
It should be child abuse and punished if done. Kids are fickle and they don't fully develop mentally until they are in their 20's.
NO - you're wrong.
The hormone blockers are to stop the effects of puberty. The physical changes associated with gender.
Female's do not want or need an Adams Apple.
females won't get an adams apple. A dude in a dress may.
Chosen ignorance.
Naw, it's reality
Reality?
That would be to educate yourself -- rather than choose ignorance.