Champions League Final Predictions

Great match....only caught the last 30 +5.

I hope to get across the pond to see a real match one day.

a reply to: theatreboy

No sirens as of now.

I was right about Liverpool losing though.

I should've placed a bet.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Thank you Real and well done.

You shut up the most arrogant supporters in English football. They boo their own National Anthem, and tonight again they had ticketless fans getting into the ground.

A disgrace to English football.

Besides the hard tackling but on the other side constant diving from RMA, they deserved the victory.

Don't know why people were expecting anything but a Madrid win. In the last 21 years Spanish teams have been in 17 European finals, and the La Liga teams won them all.

a reply to: TDDAgain

Courtois was outstanding, the save from Salah late on was outrageous. Really good game of football i thought, could have went either way but you just knew Madrid would pull it out of the hat, like they always do. Modric, Casimero and Kroos just ooze class. Special mention to Carvajal and Valverde, tortured Robertson down the right wing.

a reply to: unifaun

Because Klopp!

a reply to: Grenade

I only joined minute 30 visually and had a bit a hard time following on radio, but I got the impression that Madrid was constantly trying to play on Liverpools stamina.

The ago old game of lingering with ball possession in the own field and let them run up all the time, killing their stamina and defense line ups.

I know, easier said than done from the armchair... played myself for two and a half years as a teen in the local girls league. But then had an accident and had to quit in the middle of the season, could never play again actively, was just too dangerous and risky.

I should watch more soccer, I degraded to a EM and WM watcher but then I am on fire lol. And wearing my white soccer dress with the German flag under my right eye, similar to my avatar

a reply to: TDDAgain

They just sat deep and then tried to play the quick counter, Liverpool are a little toothless when you deny them space to run in the final third. They really need a traditional number 9 who can facilitate a plan B for games like this, then they can exploit the wings and throw in crosses to a target man / penalty box striker.

I played football myself in the youth team of a Scottish professional club until i was 17, had a motorcycle injury and during the rehab i discovered girls and alcohol, so was never offered a professional contract. My first love was always boxing, however i wasn't particularly talented and didn't fancy being a journeyman punchbag as a career, so gave up with sports.

I don't really watch much football myself anymore, bar the major finals. When i'm in Scotland i normally go to Ibrox with my lad for the matchday atmosphere more than anything.

Last week the Germans broke my heart in the Europa final, particularly Kevin Trapp, what is it with Germans and amazing goalkeepers? Oliver Khan is IMO the greatest keeper to ever grace the game.

a reply to: Grenade

Well Kahn could defend the goal by simply screaming in anger towards the approaching opponent, that alone took out the pace of some. No joke.

My personal hero is Neuer. He's the goal keeper of my generation, Kahn trained him. A giant and, don't get me wrong, a picture book man of a German descent. Rawrr, I like. Criticized a bit but he's my hero, we won the world cup with him.

It's not like I owe him my loins because of that but just look at this guy:

a reply to: TDDAgain

Haha, so Khan makes men go weak at the knees, while Neuer does it to the ladies.

a reply to: Grenade
Lol I didn't meant to imply it but indeed

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Thank you Real and well done.

You shut up the most arrogant supporters in English football. They boo their own National Anthem, and tonight again they had ticketless fans getting into the ground.

A disgrace to English football.

How Condescending and insulting of you.

NOT all Liverpool fan's booed the anthem by any mean's, some may have but it was by way of a protest in the stands against the INJUSTICE meted out to Liverpool family's over the Hillsborough disaster and how the crooks responsible got away with there crimes (Liverpool shall NEVER forgive NOR shall it forget that injustice).

And then there was the Heysel Stadium incident where a power hungry Thatcher was KEEN to pin the blame on Liverpool fan's (Liverpool has always been a heartland for Labour or she would have picked some other city to bully - though to be fair Militant were the worst crook's to ever infest the labour movement and just as bad as Thatcher's lot but on the other side of the spectrum - Derek Hatton was absolutely hated for a while in Liverpool and he is nothing but a bloody thief and petty gangster), Her reason was that being able to blame UK football fan's gave her an excuse to bring in yet MORE crowd control powers as if Her war upon the unions had not already allowed her to do so, to reduce the right to strike, limit public gatherings etc and turn out nation ever more into a police state, under her government inner city's in Labour areas were left to rot as she and her lot funnelled all the funds into the Tory heartlands of the south after stealing the national assets and selling them off to fund there vile policy's which included turning an entire generation of our youth into cheap labour under the so called Youth Training Scheme which saw many of them used as nothing but lackey's sweeping factory floors as an interim to keep what was left of our industry going while she withdrew the tried and tested AND Working model of government subsidies to employers.

(And let's not forget her family were tax evaders and involved in international criminality of the highest order with old Dennis hiding his wealth in African states run by Junta's and her best friend was a guy by the name of Pinochet whom had appalling human rights).

That said like any football supporters the majority of Liverpool fan's are decent people, family men and woman not only from Liverpool but from around the nation and in fact around the world.

Millwall had a far more violent fan base as did several other football team's.

At Heysel Juventus fans stood up in the stand and discharged a starter pistol at FAMILY's sitting on the Liverpool side of the barrier, I don't know where you are from but if someone pointed a gun at your family and shot it and you did not know if it was real would you just run away or would you try to protect your children in the stand.

Lastly GOD shall be the judge, there are some arseholes among the Liverpool fan base and the Everton fan base and the Manchester united fan base and the Southampton fan base and every London club's fan base.

As for Arrogant what gives you the right to claim that, because they protested the injustice they have suffered?.

Also did you not know that CHRIST is KING, not Elizabeth or Charles or any other earthly figure whom are mostly on usurped thrones anyway with the Rightful king of England being a guy living down in Australia, check it out it's a fact he is a direct descendant of the Plantagenet line and is the rightful KING of England under feudal laws though like I say Christ is the REAL King.

But NOOOO someone does not stand for a National Anthem because of the injustice there family's have suffered under a rigged old boy network controlled corrupt government and judicial system, they do not give there allegiance to a German family sitting in the biggest TAX PAYER FUNDED PALACE (COUNCIL HOUSE) in the country (And not just one) and this family on benefits has the power to dissolve the government on a whim should it suit them, the military and police do not swear to the people or the government but to this family, the police power is a Warrant card and the power of the courts comes from the Royal family NOT the government.

Face it, it was not the Liverpool fan's whom were arrogant and by the way many of them DID Stand, some grandfathers would be turning in there graves Liverpool lads died in every war our nation has been in (Though back in the early 1700's Liverpool was just a fishing village).

During the Napoleonic wars so many came home crippled from fighting that a rich Liverpool entrepreneur spent his money having these unemployed veterans dig tunnels.

In the event of Hitler getting into the UK the government were going to relocate to Liverpool and from there to Canada.

The battle of the Atlantic was fought from Liverpool with the commend and control centre being a tourist attraction today.


What I am saying is Liverpool has done a hell of a lot for you over it's existence but what have you ever done for Liverpool or it's many and varied people's (just like any city in the UK really, we are a small island, it's actually people with your attitude that ended the OLD Supporter class that was sadly before our time, back when the winning side's fan's used to shake the losing sides fan's hand's and buy them a pint but those days died sometime in the 60's - probably well before that in Scotland with the hatred and rivalry between Celtic and Rangers fan's which was mainly sectarian).

a reply to: LABTECH767

How Condescending and insulting of you.

Really ?

It'a called " having an opinion " Have a nice day.

a reply to: alldaylong

NO! it's called being hateful and biased, I Am probably far more British than you shall ever be, trace my NOBLE ENGLISH blooded heritage to the Tattersall and Hallworth family's, have Scot's and welsh too.

Mothers Cousin Flt LT William Beverly was shot down and killed defending Manchester from the Luftwaffe not long after taking off but probably accounted for several of there's during the battle of Britain.

Uncles both fought in Burma.

Grandfathers, Paternal one sailed the Atlantic and NORTH Atlantic convoy's saw his ship mates die after being torpedoes three times, his best mate who survived with him stuck his head in the gas stove a week after being demobbed, Maternal was Military Intelligence and served against the IRA from the 1920's and later unspecified duty's during the war.

Relatives bombed and killed in both Liverpool and Manchester.

Not even counting earlier military family history such as the men who died in the first world war.

HOW DARE the likes of YOU insult people you do not even know, that is just MY opinion good day.

a reply to: LABTECH767

NO! it's called being hateful and biased,

Well there are thousands like me.

9 reasons why everyone hates… Liverpool

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And take off those Rose Tinted Glasses. The official enquiry found Liverpool Fans solely responsible for Hysel. Go and do some research.

The blame for the incident was laid on the fans of Liverpool. On 30 May, official UEFA observer Gunter Schneider said, "Only the English fans were responsible. Of that there is no doubt."

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Victimpool Refers to the victim mentality of Liverpool, and more so, its football team - Liverpool FC. The inhabitants of Liverpool (scousers) are renowned for having a chip on their shoulder, blaming everyone else for their misdeeds, and acting like the world is against them and owes them a living. This is clearly apparent in their football team Liverpool FC and fans.

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a reply to: alldaylong

Yes sadly there ARE thousands like you.

But there are millions more that do not agree with scum bag statements like that.

I was never a fan of football and there are some rough areas in every city but have you even ever been to Liverpool or is it just a load of CRAP out of your imaginary idea of what Liverpool people are really like.

At one time Liverpool was the unofficial second city so much of the nations wealth passed through it, it's Dock's served not only the mill's of greater Manchester but beyond that and it was known as the gateway to the America's for good reason.

It has a longer history than it's City status and is the real re-incarnation of Chester whose port silted up century's ago.

Lost it's castle a long time ago and sadly has a bit of dark history in the form of Slave Pen's that were unearthed there a testament to some of the darker side of our nations history though in truth it was OUR Nation that led the world in the fight against Slavery making it illegal even about a decade before the Scot's eventually and reluctantly followed suit.


As Liverpool was such a main port many people in London and of course the OTHER port city's such as Southampton had link's to Liverpool even if they have no idea about them today.

It was also something of a melting pot but no way near as much as London was though while London retained the title of the largest port Liverpool was undoubtedly the real main port, during the war so much food, munitions and troops came through it and like today back then without imports of food our nation could have starved in as little as a couple of week's.

Like many of our great metropolis it was once much more of a beautiful city than it is today, a wrought iron overhead railway once threaded through the city but that has long since been lost, rich people once dwelt in style in the fashionable town houses of Kensington (Liverpool) but when the city's fortunes failed with the collapse of empire and the focus on rebuilding the south leaving much of Liverpool derelict for decades following the war (the scars of the bombing are still to be seen today) many of the formerly wealthy ship owners and company owners houses in the formerly upmarket areas such as Kensington became SQUATS filled by migrants from Jamaica and Africa eventually causing it to go the same downward spiral of crime and drugs as afflicted much of our inner city's during the post war period and resulting in the riots of the 1980's.

Margaret Thatcher's policy's did further irreparable harm to the nation, Assets that were equally owned by the entire nation under nationalization were sold off and the money STOLEN to fund lavish investments in Tory controlled borough's mostly to the south of the nation, the British industrial heartland which had once made us the greatest industrial power in the world was almost over night completely destroyed by her policy's and short term yuppie boom's replaced it.

Liverpool faced grinding poverty throughout much of this period as did much of Manchester, our cousins in the North East such as Tyneside and of course the Scot's and the Welsh, none of our regions received there fair and just share of the funds raised by the debatably illegal sell off of so much of our public silverware.

Sadly in Liverpool genuine scum in the form of Militant rose to power stealing the Labour vote when in fact they were anything but Labour, a painting of Liverpool on fire during the bombing painted by a famous artist from Anglesey looking at the red sky over the city was once hung in the public gallery of our museum until Derek Hatton took charge of Liverpool city council and like the Tory's had been doing under his rule works like this vanished though this one was seen hanging in the office of one of his cronies and later vanished when he went out of power.

This link to Militant (who were NEVER true Labour but a disgrace to everything labour stood for) has left a lasting legacy of disgrace upon our city but well informed Liverpudlians do not like Hatton and his ilk of back street gangsters one tiny bit.


The fact is I have no hatred for any other city in my nation, oh there are some I do not fancy visiting such as a few in wales that have crime rates that make a bad day on canning park look like a holiday and there are some far more gentile areas of our nation I would dearly love to live but over all Liverpudlians are Brits and this is our nation.


So a few did not stand up to cheer the national anthem, it was not always like that I assure you and there will be plenty of street party's in Liverpool for the queen's jubilee and plenty of those streets will be decked with there banners.

And what those FEW of the fan's forgot is that by not standing up they have insulted not so much themselves as there forefathers whom fought and died for this nation.

So like I say we do not all agree with them and certainly they are NOT representative of the Liverpool fan base though there IS a distinct feeling of betrayal over Hillsborough.

And as for those lies you spout and use reports to spout about Heysel - THATCHER officially accepted the blame onto the Liverpool fan's and wanted it to give police more crowd control powers simple as that, she is the one who did not stand up for our nation and those Italian fans DID fire a starter pistol into the crowd of ENGLISH family's.

Even the bad fan's, the hooligans (Who we ALL hate) were not as bad or anywhere near as bad as those that attended the likes of Millwall matches.

In fact Liverpool are not even in the top ten for BAD FAN's.
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But I suspect your team probably is eh!.

a reply to: LABTECH767

But there are millions more that do not agree with scum bag statements like that

Go and be a " victim" It suits you.

a reply to: alldaylong

Well pal I am six foot two, nearly 20 stone sadly these days it's mostly around my waist but back in the day I would do four hours on the weights after work every day, have worked in industry and retail security, chased moronic drug dealers with knives (it get's you angry when some plonker pulls a knife on you and you are just doing your job - idiot was trying to sell drugs in a supermarket - Tesco - car park were I was working as retail security and I told him kindly to hop it, oh I have been threatened with syringes the works but every now and then it get's under your skin and you just want to shove there weapon were the sun doesn't shine, adrenaline).

So let's put it this way, it's not me the victim but you the victim of your own lies and bull.

Go and read some history will you it may do your mentality some good.

Come on now kids, calm down....



Ha ha, sorry...I just had to.