Cops detained dad outside Texas school while they waited outside

The very first reports were of shots being fired outside the school by someone calling 911 from the school. I'll never be able to understand why the school didn't immediately go on lockdown. Have they scrubbed that account now?

The grandma informed 911 she'd been shot, he'd taken her truck- and was headed in the direction of the school. Timeline shows it took him 15 minutes to get there; could the police department not call the school in that 15 minute time period and tell them to go on lockdown?

All I know is there are a lot of nutters in our society that want their 15 minutes of fame, and even if there are safety officers on campus, they absolutely cannot be counted on to do their job.

The criminal element is probably as well armed as law abiding gun owners, so outlawing guns or heavily restricting them is going to do more harm than good. Just across the border are all the guns anybody not wanting to acquire them the legal way could ever hope for.

Military veterans have volunteered to be school safety patrols; I bet there are a lot of parents willing to do the same. Why can't they be allowed to have something like that? They couldn't do any worse than the law enforcement that shows up to these events.

a reply to: SirHardHarry

I find it disheartening to see so many people completely ignore possible answers and instead go with what their emotions tell them to believe. It's a huge problem with most issues today, people not thinking logically, only emotionally.

Society has become so emotional and reactionary ever since social media became a thing, even moreso than we already were. Not sure what we're trying so hard to salvage to be honest, most everything is based on money and deceit nowadays. You can't even buy a box of cereal without the advertising on the box somehow lying to you.

Oh well, life goes on.

originally posted by: just4fun
every one of those cops especially the 6 holding that father down should be charged with aiding and abetting murder.

unreal they stand there in the F##### kevlar vests with huge guns and let children get murdered and hold the parents back

for 40 minutes.

who knows how many lives that dad might have saved if those evil POS cops hadnt stopped him

They better be charged and do alot of time

If I was the father held down..hell would be coming for those 6, if it took the rest of my life.

originally posted by: nugget1
The very first reports were of shots being fired outside the school by someone calling 911 from the school. I'll never be able to understand why the school didn't immediately go on lockdown. Have they scrubbed that account now?

The grandma informed 911 she'd been shot, he'd taken her truck- and was headed in the direction of the school. Timeline shows it took him 15 minutes to get there; could the police department not call the school in that 15 minute time period and tell them to go on lockdown?

All I know is there are a lot of nutters in our society that want their 15 minutes of fame, and even if there are safety officers on campus, they absolutely cannot be counted on to do their job.

The criminal element is probably as well armed as law abiding gun owners, so outlawing guns or heavily restricting them is going to do more harm than good. Just across the border are all the guns anybody not wanting to acquire them the legal way could ever hope for.

Military veterans have volunteered to be school safety patrols; I bet there are a lot of parents willing to do the same. Why can't they be allowed to have something like that? They couldn't do any worse than the law enforcement that shows up to these events.

I read he was outside the school, shooting for 12 minutes, before he entered. No way to verify, but thats what I read.

I don’t want to think what I would do if I was a parent there. But when I do it doesn’t end well. If I was a cop there the death toll would be a lot lower or one higher. Be damn the orders. Hope everyone of them suffers beyond belief. The ones pulling tasers on parents should be dealt with.


F n cowards. Every last one

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Cutepants
Supposedly some of the cops got their own kids out before doing this? And I read that one of them had seen the shooter walking in with a gun and protective vest.

I saw a story that he had the vest on but there were no armor plates in it, so it was basically useless to protect him.

Even if in body armour, why not shoot him in the thigh, or knee. Decent chance a thigh shot hits an artery

originally posted by: ancientlight
Absolutely infuriating !! I'm soo beyond words mad watching this. Very upsetting , those poor kids, those poor parents

He was in the school for 40 minutes !! While the police waited outside detaining parents. The parents wanted to go in the school but the police stopped them

Just explain this as something else but planned/funded/supported by the insane government/those in charge

All to disarm the good citizens , 100% planned for that reason.

didn't someone inform the cops this wasn't a school board meeting?

Cowardice is a trait wherein excessive fear prevents an individual from taking a risk or facing danger.It is the opposite of courage. As a label, "cowardice" indicates a failure of character in the face of a challenge. One who succumbs to cowardice is known as a coward.


Acts of cowardice have long been punishable by military law, which defines a wide range of cowardly offenses, including desertion in face of the enemy and surrendering to the enemy against orders. The punishment for such acts is typically severe, ranging from corporal punishment to the death sentence.

The United States military codes of justice proscribe cowardice in combat as a crime punishable by death.

There needs to be a new modern militia movement, to keep these cops in check. It's already government overreach when they allow cops to abuse their powers.

a reply to: imitator

Never heard of the Oathkeepers or Proud Boys I presume?

originally posted by: imitator
There needs to be a new modern militia movement, to keep these cops in check. It's already government overreach when they allow cops to abuse their powers.

And what do you suggest this modern militia *do* to "keep cops in check"?

a reply to: ancientlight
Police, in this day and age are TRAINED for exactly this situation! I do not believe this inaction was how they were trained to respond. 40 minutes is a very long time for the Police not to engage! Border patrol took him out? Seriously? Border control doesn't have the same training for this as the Police (I don't know that for a fact, but I would assume that).

It is said they were waiting for a negotiator! Really? WTAF! So when Border control gets there they take him out? That should have happened 40 minutes earlier! I do not believe this is a "false flag". I think the Police were incompetent, in this situation! Absolutely crazy!

originally posted by: RegularJo76
a reply to: SirHardHarry

I find it disheartening to see so many people completely ignore possible answers and instead go with what their emotions tell them to believe. It's a huge problem with most issues today, people not thinking logically, only emotionally.

Society has become so emotional and reactionary ever since social media became a thing, even moreso than we already were. Not sure what we're trying so hard to salvage to be honest, most everything is based on money and deceit nowadays. You can't even buy a box of cereal without the advertising on the box somehow lying to you.

Oh well, life goes on.

Right. The police stood around outside for 40 minutes not doing anything to stop more kids getting shot or getting lifesaving help they needed. How is this acceptable in your eyes , explain that to me.

If you don't have answers either just be quiet. You are just talking hot air.
Nothing matters, I don't care about the reason. The cops should have acted and they choose to do nothing

Boy, am I gonna piss people TF off in this thread.


Now, I'm going to assume their local PD, like anywhere else, has a spiffy, government & lawyer-approved handbook of sorts for how to commence handling # as enforcers of laws.

You following me yet?

I think odds are sky-high that the rules & regulations the public demanded be added over the years to avoid teh eeebil po-po outcomes... Did this. Not the shooting, obviously, but just MAYBE folks who demanded changes might want to see if they short-sightedly demanded one that inadvertently prevents YOU from playing hero yourself because liability.


There are consequences to suing departments into oblivion. Those handbook changes might bite back in unforseen ways. I'm just putting it out there because it's not outside the realm of possibility that our litigious chickens have come home to roost.

Now. I'm on a cell for the time being, broken laptop. If someone feels like digging into this theory for me, more power to you

a reply to: SirHardHarry

If any of the modern militias we already have are anything to go by it would be to swindle people with a membership fee and never do anything of any actual value.

Also doesn't hurt if you're a child abuser like Stewart Rhodes (Oathkeepers) who most likely sexually abused his own daughter for years while hiding behind his "patriot" moniker.

You gotta be a huge piece of # to be the head of a militia as far as I can tell.

originally posted by: Nyiah
Boy, am I gonna piss people TF off in this thread.


Now, I'm going to assume their local PD, like anywhere else, has a spiffy, government & lawyer-approved handbook of sorts for how to commence handling # as enforcers of laws.

You following me yet?

I think odds are sky-high that the rules & regulations the public demanded be added over the years to avoid teh eeebil po-po outcomes... Did this. Not the shooting, obviously, but just MAYBE folks who demanded changes might want to see if they short-sightedly demanded one that inadvertently prevents YOU from playing hero yourself because liability.


There are consequences to suing departments into oblivion. Those handbook changes might bite back in unforseen ways. I'm just putting it out there because it's not outside the realm of possibility that our litigious chickens have come home to roost.

Now. I'm on a cell for the time being, broken laptop. If someone feels like digging into this theory for me, more power to you

Not an acceptable answer. The cops had ample time to stop the situation escalating.
Someone called 911 15 minutes before the shooter arrived at the school.
Then the shooter stood outside the school for 12 minutes shooting.
Then the cops hang around 40 minutes stopping parents from entering. Please. They should have taken the shooter out before and not hang around so long doing nothing. Even a traffic stop gets more cops to act, so why didn't they act to stop the shooter and let the kids leave the school building?

No excuses. Now the police department and local officials, or whoever is behind the dismal handling of the situation, especially the 6 cops holding the dad down will be sued!

a reply to: ancientlight

Who said it was acceptable? Quote me saying that. The only thing I've said is that I disagree it's a false flag.

Stop putting words in my mouth please, it's a bad look.

a reply to: ancientlight

Too much letting-emotions-lead.

I'm on a borrowed data connection thats loading about as fast as 56k for me, double-checking to see if anything exists on the books that may have hamstrung them into that is not a page load I am capable of.

With all due respect, PLEASE calm your teets, and prove me wrong if possible. It's just a theory, wide open for proving or disproving here. If you're going to snap at me again, the only thing I can ultimately take that as, is admission that I could potentially be right in some aspect somehow.

originally posted by: RegularJo76
a reply to: SirHardHarry

I find it disheartening to see so many people completely ignore possible answers and instead go with what their emotions tell them to believe. It's a huge problem with most issues today, people not thinking logically, only emotionally.

Society has become so emotional and reactionary ever since social media became a thing, even moreso than we already were. Not sure what we're trying so hard to salvage to be honest, most everything is based on money and deceit nowadays. You can't even buy a box of cereal without the advertising on the box somehow lying to you.

Oh well, life goes on.

they weren't on vulcan. WWSD?

i'd rather face ww2 era japanese troops than a kid with a gun to try and save my and other kids while the cops are standing around.

don't forget the shooter was still killing kids and parents could hear the shots.

originally posted by: RegularJo76
a reply to: ancientlight

Who said it was acceptable? Quote me saying that. The only thing I've said is that I disagree it's a false flag.

Stop putting words in my mouth please, it's a bad look.

Alright my apologies. But this is obviously very upsetting to see as a parent.
The cops did nothing , that's the reason the parents had to act as they were desperate.
Imo it is planned/funded/pushed by the likes of Soros/WEF to further their agenda, hence the reason the cops did nothing.
Any good decent cop would not be standing about doing nothing while little kids get shot.
They (tptb) know which cops would be corrupt enough to do nothing when they want them to do nothing