Was monkeypox used as a bio weapon?

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

The symptoms seem to be no worse than the likes of Chicken Pox for most people and there is a vaccine called "Jynneos", "Imvamune" or "Imvanex" that can prevent the disease, although it's not approved in the UK yet, it is in the USA.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies


We're probably seeing a super spreader event, maybe one individual with a more contagious strain.

Poxviruses are DNA-based so they do not have varients like RNA viruses. Smallpox has just two in the last 30,000 years, so if some "new" variant comes along it is most likely not naturally occurring.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AaarghZombies


We're probably seeing a super spreader event, maybe one individual with a more contagious strain.

Poxviruses are DNA-based so they do not have varients like RNA viruses. Smallpox has just two in the last 30,000 years, so if some "new" variant comes along it is most likely not naturally occurring.

Monkeypox actually has multiple documented strains, the most common of which being Congo and WA. They're genetically distinct and have distinct mortality and morbidity rates.

Technically these are monophyletic group, rather than variants, but that's really just splitting hairs right now as my argument is simply that we're likely seeing a super spreader rather than some kid of conspiracy.

It doesn't have the traits of a bio weapon attack.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

The scientific community has a pretty good idea, but wants to be more certain before it says anything as we all know what happens when you make an early declaration and turn out to be even slightly off the mark.

a reply to: nugget1

the immune system is seeing less need to manufacture antibodies for other viruses- leaving us open to diseases that once would have amounted to a mild illness becoming far more serious.

There is literally no mechanism biology that can do this. It's impossible. The body will react to whatever is put in it, if you put more stimulus in it splits its resources. It doesn't just concentrate on one.

It's not discussed in the mainstream because it's not a thing. Any discussion starts with "that's not possible" and ends.

Besides, the vax only remains in the body for a couple of weeks, a month in rare instances. So after that time the body doesn't produce any additional immunity to it as there isn't anything stimulating it to produce it.

Funny how they just released a vaccine for it. Also it must be a coincidence that this outbreak fell right in line with a "simulation" about this same disease run by the WHO. Oh and it's just a coincidence that Bill Gates talked about this and has his claws in the development of the vaccine. Nothing to see here. Sleep, consume, obey.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Did you read the reactions of African scientists who have been working with this virus for decades? They ALL say that this outbreak is nothing like the outbreaks they know in Africa. There is nothing 'as usual' about this one and even in Europe virologists are saying they don't know at this time because nothing like this outbreak has ever happened before.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Did you read the reactions of African scientists who have been working with this virus for decades? They ALL say that this outbreak is nothing like the outbreaks they know in Africa. There is nothing 'as usual' about this one and even in Europe virologists are saying they don't know at this time because nothing like this outbreak has ever happened before.

I also read the English media reports, it looks like the only thing that's unusual about this is that it's being transmitted between gay men. Which doesn't usually happen in Africa for obvious reasons.

originally posted by: PorteurDeMort
Funny how they just released a vaccine for it. Also it must be a coincidence that this outbreak fell right in line with a "simulation" about this same disease run by the WHO. Oh and it's just a coincidence that Bill Gates talked about this and has his claws in the development of the vaccine. Nothing to see here. Sleep, consume, obey.

It's not a coincidence, or a conspiracy. Monkeypox is one of the diseases that scientists have been keeping an eye on for a while as the next disruptor. Epidemiologists have been expecting something like this for a couple of years, so they're simply putting precautions in place.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Did you read the reactions of African scientists who have been working with this virus for decades? They ALL say that this outbreak is nothing like the outbreaks they know in Africa. There is nothing 'as usual' about this one and even in Europe virologists are saying they don't know at this time because nothing like this outbreak has ever happened before.

I also read the English media reports, it looks like the only thing that's unusual about this is that it's being transmitted between gay men. Which doesn't usually happen in Africa for obvious reasons.

“I’m stunned by this. Every day I wake up and there are more countries infected,” said Oyewale Tomori, a virologist who formerly headed the Nigerian Academy of Science and who sits on several WHO advisory boards. “This is not the kind of spread we’ve seen in West Africa, so there may be something new happening in the West,” he said.

whashington post

What’s concerning experts is the unusual spread of the disease. Monkeypox usually circulates in Africa, with occasional individual cases linked to travel detected overseas. But according to the EU’s disease control agency, recent cases in Europe appear to have spread from person to person, for the first time, without any direct link to Africa.

www.politico.eu...

Yes it was. It will be used for political power. There will be a new “variant” that the current treatments can’t “fix” and the sheep will believe it.

a reply to: wdkirk

It's transmitted through sex or close physical contact wdkirk.

As a bioweapon, it would piss poor, just down to the nature of transmission.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

It doesn't have the traits of a bio weapon attack.

In my view, a bio-weapon attack isn't along the lines of some lab-created monster, but people purposely infected with whatever is highly contagious and just go out into the world and spread it. Kind of like 9/11 where it was a small group of people that wreaked havoc, so this doesn't need to be some global killer, just look what COVID did, and that is what they really want and not so much of a billions dead event.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
At the time of posting there are 87 confirmed and 57 suspected cases of monkey pox in 12 countries.
The first known case was confirmed in the UK on May 4th. The second was on may 18th in Portugal, followed by Spain and the US on the same day. Other countries followed in the next two days: Australia, Canada, France, Belgium, Germany, Italy and Sweden. Latest is the Netherlands.

all data on Wikipedia page and multiple online news sources: wikipedia monkeypox 2022


There was a time period of 14 days between the first and second case. The first case is said to be a man who traveled to Nigeria and contracted the virus over there. At the time it was nothing unusual because small outbreaks of Monkey pox happened before and usually go away after 2 or 3 cases.

On May 8th news comes out that the US placed an order for smallpox vaccines with Bavarian Nordic.
Is this time frame coincidental?
What is the chance that this order goes out, right around the time of the first case? A case no one seemed to care about? Unless someone knew more? ( This is speculation, obviously )

US smallpox vaccine order


Meanwhile in Europe, Virologists in every country are claiming the spotlights again and doing their thing on TV. Most agreeing that the spread of the current outbreak is nothing they've seen before,...

And speaking of speculation,
I can't help but notice how a lot of them point out that around 2014 all labs around the world promised to destroy their pox samples, but that some probably didn't: Russia and the US. How they keep making the link between pox viruses and the military, they weave it into their background info on the virus because they don't want to say it out loud.

and then there is the CDC who has approved several drugs since 2018 to treat smallpox, because:

there have been longstanding concerns that the virus that causes smallpox, the Variola virus, could be used as a bioweapon

FDA on smallpox drug approval

Someone's got to ask the question, especially with the current events: Eastern Europe, Russia, Nato,... and the threats flying around lately.

Was the Monkey pox virus released as a bio-weapon?


edit: missed this one

Russia ‘planned to use monkeypox as a bioweapon’, report warned

and this one from 2002
Monkeypox could be used as bioweapon

Update 5.22.2022

On his international trip, President Biden tells reporters MonkeyPox could be a Game Changer!

Source: www.usatoday.com...

I wonder if he plans on using it as the primary reason for another shutdown before the November elections? It's safer than starting a war with Russia, to achieve the mass-mail-in-voting goal.

a reply to: carewemust

thanks for the link.
I guess we'll have to wait and see how this one turn out. The media is not giving it much attention...
Yesterday there were 188 cases (confirmed and suspected combined)

since the incubation period is between 5 and 21 days, this outbreak could progress very slowly in the beginning. Let's just hope they get it contained.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

The way the disease is transmitted means that containment can at least be achieved a hell of a lot easier than with the likes of COVID 19.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Double, my bad once again.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

President Joe Biden said Sunday the new monkeypox outbreak should concern "everybody," as it continues to baffle medical officials around the world.

"Everybody should be concerned about [it]," Biden said in South Korea, while speaking with a group of reporters before he boarded Air Force One for Japan, Reuters reported.

The president’s remarks come as numerous outbreaks of monkeypox were reported in Africa, followed by other reported cases in Europe and the U.S.

www.foxnews.com...

it looks like this might be the next phase of operation "scare the world into doing stupid things". Good looking out.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

What’s concerning experts is the unusual spread of the disease. Monkeypox usually circulates in Africa, with occasional individual cases linked to travel detected overseas. But according to the EU’s disease control agency, recent cases in Europe appear to have spread from person to person, for the first time, without any direct link to Africa.

It's only "unusual" if you look at it in the context of Africa, if you look at it in the context of Europe it's perfectly predictable.

What we're seeing here isn't a change in Monkeypox, it's the entry of Monkeypox into a community with different behavioral norms to those found in Africa.

The hotspot for this is the UK. Specifically, the LGTBQ+ community.

It's being transmitted sexually.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

The way the disease is transmitted means that containment can at least be achieved a hell of a lot easier than with the likes of COVID 19.

Like I said , I hope so!

I was listening to some virologists the other day (don't have English links since it were interviews in Dutch) and they said that no one was ever really able to investigate if the virus could transmit though small liquid drops (coughing, sneezing) since all previous outbreaks were to small or in less populated areas in Africa. All they know for certain is that it transmits through large drops as in body fluids, contact with skin, infected bed linen, kissing, etc

so the bottom line is they don't know for sure and most probably looking into that in multiple labs around the world as we speak.