Looks like Azov has begin to surrender.

First Batch of Azov Battalion Fighters Surrender at the Azovstal Plant in Mariupol

A number of websites are reporting that a group of 60 Azov, mostly wounded, have surrendered to the Russians at the Mariupol steel plant.
Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Aljazeera reporting too.

Link

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

From your link:

According Alexander Khodakovsky, the founder of the Vostok Battalion (DPR), 9 Ukrainian soldiers have surrendered at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.

“Now a lively stage of negotiations is underway. It was just the first group leaving. As it turned out, the group left, representing the interests of a larger group that continues to be at Azovstal,” Khodakovsky said on the air of the 60 Minutes program on the Rossiya 1 TV channel.

Earlier this morning, Russian authorities agreed to evacuate wounded Ukrainian troops from Mariupol steelworks, and ordered that soldiers were to be taken to hospital in separatist-controlled town, making them prisoners of war.

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If true, it's not surprising MSM is silent; this doesn't fit the narrative being portrayed.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Aljazeera reporting too.

Link

According to a quick Google search, the cities they're being taken to are in Donetsk, which means they're prisoners.

a reply to: nugget1

If true, it's not surprising MSM is silent; this doesn't fit the narrative being portrayed.

Its propaganda whenever you British officials on the news media claiming that the Russians are losing and they have bad military equipment is only on parades.

Its rather funny coming from the same UK that recently lost the war after 20 years of occupation in Afghanistan. Whenever the US/UK officials claim such things publicly its usually that means their side isn't doing well.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

Because it would hurt the russophobia narrative and it would prove that Russians were right about the Neo Nazis been part of the Ukrainian army.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
First Batch of Azov Battalion Fighters Surrender at the Azovstal Plant in Mariupol

A number of websites are reporting that a group of 60 Azov, mostly wounded, have surrendered to the Russians at the Mariupol steel plant.
Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

Perhaps because it's just russia finally relenting to months long global pressure to allow evacuation of their wounded soldiers?

And that it was agreed to yesterday?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You seem to ignore the fact that they arent their wounded soldiers they are neo nazis.

The Russians are breaking your narrative.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

Because it would hurt the russophobia narrative and it would prove that Russians were right about the Neo Nazis been part of the Ukrainian army.

Nothing could ever prove what was always fake russian propaganda, it isn't even close to reality.

Nothing ever will.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

it's just russia finally relenting to months long global pressure to allow evacuation of their wounded soldiers

Did you get the memo? the Neo Nazis in that steel plant refused to surrender.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its not fake propaganda.
The Neo Nazis in Ukraine and in Mariupol had a headquarters, there were videos of Russian forces coming to the area during the start of the campaign in the city.

The building had far right flags near the building.

You can look for the videos on twitter or other social media platforms.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
First Batch of Azov Battalion Fighters Surrender at the Azovstal Plant in Mariupol

A number of websites are reporting that a group of 60 Azov, mostly wounded, have surrendered to the Russians at the Mariupol steel plant.
Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

Perhaps because it's just russia finally relenting to months long global pressure to allow evacuation of their wounded soldiers?

And that it was agreed to yesterday?

Usually when a military group starts sending its wounded out to the other side , it is a very bad situation for that group .
There are various reasons for that , and none of them good.
Nothing at all to do with "global pressure" .
Basically , using history as a precedence , that side is losing.
There have been other indications of this.
1) A leader of a nation asking for guns for hire from around the world.
2) A leader going live on a US show begging for help .

And that is using the MSM's own stories .
Although the ignorance shows , as they declared that a sign of bravado.
It was a sign of desperation.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
First Batch of Azov Battalion Fighters Surrender at the Azovstal Plant in Mariupol

A number of websites are reporting that a group of 60 Azov, mostly wounded, have surrendered to the Russians at the Mariupol steel plant.
Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

Perhaps because it's just russia finally relenting to months long global pressure to allow evacuation of their wounded soldiers?

And that it was agreed to yesterday?

Usually when a military group starts sending its wounded out to the other side , it is a very bad situation for that group .
There are various reasons for that , and none of them good.
Nothing at all to do with "global pressure" .
Basically , using history as a precedence , that side is losing.

Agreed.

Nobody ever said the Ukrainian troops there were in anything but a horrible situation, but that doesn't change the facts about how this occured, and those facts don't match the ridiculous russian propaganda in this thread.

a reply to: Gothmog

50 billion reasons its (D)ifferent this time!

At this point, it flies if the face of logic that Russia is looking to save face on the international stage.


Even if true, no western media would accurately report it.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

Because it would hurt the russophobia narrative and it would prove that Russians were right about the Neo Nazis been part of the Ukrainian army.

Nothing could ever prove what was always fake russian propaganda, it isn't even close to reality.

Nothing ever will.

It's not hard to find photos of Azov soldiers literally wearing swastikas on their uniforms. It's also not hard to find reports from various MSM journalists about how these guys are neo-Nazis. It's just that about 6 months ago all of that got flushed down the memory hole because "RUSSIA = BAD."

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

PoWs and bargaining chips.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its not fake propaganda.
The Neo Nazis in Ukraine and in Mariupol had a headquarters, there were videos of Russian forces coming to the area during the start of the campaign in the city.

The building had far right flags near the building.

You can look for the videos on twitter or other social media platforms.

Did they 'surrender', as you claimed?

Or did they transfer seriously wounded soldiers, as the facts clearly demonstrate?




So why did you make stuff up about Ukrainians surrendering?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
First Batch of Azov Battalion Fighters Surrender at the Azovstal Plant in Mariupol

A number of websites are reporting that a group of 60 Azov, mostly wounded, have surrendered to the Russians at the Mariupol steel plant.
Naturally the MSM isn't saying a word about it.

So , you agree against all your MSM rhetoric , the Ukrainians are not exactly in a good position ?




Perhaps because it's just russia finally relenting to months long global pressure to allow evacuation of their wounded soldiers?

And that it was agreed to yesterday?

Usually when a military group starts sending its wounded out to the other side , it is a very bad situation for that group .
There are various reasons for that , and none of them good.
Nothing at all to do with "global pressure" .
Basically , using history as a precedence , that side is losing.

Agreed.

Nobody ever said the Ukrainian troops there were in anything but a horrible situation, but that doesn't change the facts about how this occured, and those facts don't match the ridiculous russian propaganda in this thread.

So you agree , despite all your MSM rhetoric ,the Ukrainians are not in the best position ?

Your turn .

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its not fake propaganda.
The Neo Nazis in Ukraine and in Mariupol had a headquarters, there were videos of Russian forces coming to the area during the start of the campaign in the city.

The building had far right flags near the building.

You can look for the videos on twitter or other social media platforms.

Did they 'surrender', as you claimed?

Or did they transfer seriously wounded soldiers, as the facts clearly demonstrate?




So why did you make stuff up about Ukrainians surrendering?

Reports indicate that they're being taken into Donestk. They're in the custody of Russian forces, not Ukrainian.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its not fake propaganda.
The Neo Nazis in Ukraine and in Mariupol had a headquarters, there were videos of Russian forces coming to the area during the start of the campaign in the city.

The building had far right flags near the building.

You can look for the videos on twitter or other social media platforms.

Did they 'surrender', as you claimed?

Or did they transfer seriously wounded soldiers, as the facts clearly demonstrate?




So why did you make stuff up about Ukrainians surrendering?

Reports indicate that they're being taken into Donestk. They're in the custody of Russian forces, not Ukrainian.

The seriously wounded soldiers?

Or the soldiers that OP falsely claimed were 'surrendering'?