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Dominionism is the theocratic idea that regardless of theological camp, means, or timetable, God has called conservative Christians to exercise dominion over society by taking control of political and cultural institutions. politicalresearch.org...
originally posted by: frogs453
Well the weekend has had very large protests in cities and DC. Haven't heard of any violence or antifa infiltration yet.
They estimated 17,000 expected in DC and 350 other protests nationwide. From other photos I saw it was a huge crowd.
NBC-DC
originally posted by: continuousThunder
i truly utterly genuinely ADORE the fact that the OP of this thread is putting forward a theory that this whole abortion debate business could be a bit of a false flag designed by democrats to forment violence and make the right wing look bad, and there is NOT ONE SINGLE POST addressing that point, the very second post is a staunch right winger yelling about the constitution and killing babies and from there the same argument as usual degenerated itself out.
The thread that disproved itself, fantastic work everyone.
p.s. you can never ban abortions, you can only ban safe abortions.
like we don't know this is more than about abortion.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Annee
like we don't know this is more than about abortion.
That much is certainly correct.
This issue is about who can create law, whether we will honor illegally-created laws, adherence to the founding document from which the Federal government derives all of its authority, the right of people to govern themselves, how we will treat the most vulnerable among us, and whether we will uphold the time-honored principle of one person, one vote.
One side accepts a law created not by any legislature of elected representatives, but by lifetime-appointed jurors. One side honors a law created by those not authorized to create law. One side refuses to acknowledge and respect the authorities and separation of powers given to the Federal government. One side believes in governance by force of power never granted by the people. One side believes a life is less than worthless, a blight on those already alive and who may be inconvenienced by said life. One side believes that, should all else fail, it is perfectly acceptable to remove the right to speak on an issue and have one's voice heard if the outcome of a debate seems precarious.
Another side rejects a law unless it is created in accordance with law. That side rejects laws created by those not direct representatives of the people. That side acknowledges and respects the founding documents that have allowed a country to survive and thrive for well over 200 years. That side believes in governance by consent of the governed via law. That side believes all life is precious and those most vulnerable deserve to be protected. That side believes that, when it comes to law, all must be heard equally.
I know what side I am on. I know from your statements what side you are on. And i know that i will do anything, pay any cost to stop you from dismissing my status as a citizen and rightful participant in my country. Because I know the end of that... it is tyranny and oppression and death, whether or not you see it, and whether or not you accept it.
TheRedneck
originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: TheRedneck
Yet men don't have to go through the actual pregnancy. They have no risks, pain, or life changes (unless court ordered).
So why should men get any say on wether abortion is legal?
They literally do nothing besides not pulling out.
Yet men don't have to go through the actual pregnancy. They have no risks, pain, or life changes (unless court ordered).
So why should men get any say on wether abortion is legal?
They literally do nothing besides not pulling out.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
I know what side I am on. I know from your statements what side you are on. And i know that i will do anything, pay any cost to stop you from dismissing my status as a citizen and rightful participant in my country. Because I know the end of that... it is tyranny and oppression and death, whether or not you see it, and whether or not you accept it.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Annee
Because you cannot force a man to take a DNA Paternity test
A court certainly can force a paternity test if needed to establish a reasonable claim of paternity. It happens all the time.
TheRedneck
One of the most common reasons that someone would be asked to take a DNA test is when they are trying to find out who the father of their child is. It’s important to note that someone cannot be forced to take a DNA test when it comes to DNA paternity testing. If DNA is obtained without the alleged father’s consent, then it is known as a non-legal paternity test and cannot be used in court. People who don’t want a paternity test for court reasons can conduct a DNA test without the knowledge of the father. While the supposed father has the right to refuse a paternity DNA test, there can be legal ramifications. If DNA testing is court-ordered, it is considered a civil lawsuit, so the father refusing the test can be held in contempt of court for refusing the DNA test. For people who have been ordered by the court to a paternity test should know that they don’t have to take the test, but that it can result in charges and fines against the person. www.choicedna.com...#:~:text=It%E2%80%99s%20important%20to%20note%20that%20someone%20cannot%20be,paternity% 20test%20and%20cannot%20be%20used%20in%20court.
originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: TheRedneck
So why should men get any say on wether abortion is legal?
They literally do nothing besides not pulling out.
Discussing whether or not men get any say on whether abortion is legal or not is simply mental masterbation. Men will always get a say on whether abortion is legal ... thats how our government works.
originally posted by: ExiledSpirit777
a reply to: tanstaafl
Ah, but see, you and I cannot make rapes magically stop.
So what about abortions in those situations?
Kind of stuck with it huh? A baby who has no father, a mother unable to care or afford for them most likely? That sounds like torture. Torture for the mother who was raped, torture for the baby who likely will not have a good life. Very cool.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: ExiledSpirit777
a reply to: tanstaafl
Ah, but see, you and I cannot make rapes magically stop.
Ah, but that is totally irrelevant to the point, which your next question makes clear you totally missed...
So what about abortions in those situations?
The rape is not the fault of the baby. Period.
Kind of stuck with it huh? A baby who has no father, a mother unable to care or afford for them most likely? That sounds like torture. Torture for the mother who was raped, torture for the baby who likely will not have a good life. Very cool.
Cool? A whole bunch of nonsensical 'what if's'?
There are plenty of willing couples ready to adopt, and the mother can drop off the newborn baby at many different places with ZERO consequences...
Very cool.
originally posted by: continuousThunder
p.s. you can never ban abortions, you can only ban safe abortions.
In an interview with Politico, the following words came out of Cassidy’s mouth: “About a third of our population is African American; African Americans have a higher incidence of maternal mortality. So, if you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear. Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality.”In Louisiana, Black mothers are four times as likely to die than white mothers.