Zelensky Critic Arrested in Spain on Orders of Ukrainian Government

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You:

The 'West' isn't interested in joining russia's war of agression.

My source:

Together, we will provide military assistance to Ukraine and impose devastating punitive measures should Putin forgo diplomacy for a path to war.

Next?

Does 'military assistance' = joining a war in your reality?

It doesn't anywhere else.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Are you making the claim that the US is joining the war?

Because I was responding to this quote by you.

The 'West' isn't interested in joining russia's war of agression.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Are you making the claim that the US is joining the war?

Because I was responding to this quote by you.

The 'West' isn't interested in joining russia's war of agression.

My statement is correct.

You equating 'military assistance' to 'joining a war' is not.

Most most of the civilized world has offered Ukraine 'military assistance', and they aren't interested in joining russia's war either.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u


“Does 'military assistance' = joining a war in your reality?

It doesn't anywhere else. “

It depends on which end of the gun you’re looking at and who’s gun it is.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You equating 'military assistance' to 'joining a war' is not.

Im not equating. Im quoting from a senate resolution:

 Together, we will provide military assistance to Ukraine and impose devastating punitive measures should Putin forgo diplomacy for a path to war. 

Which was a reply to your statement:

The 'West' isn't interested in joining russia's war of agression.

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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: vNex92
A popular YouTuber and critic of President Zelensky was arrested in Spain at request Ukrainian government on charges of treason and is facing extradition, despite that he had publicly condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Isn't it 15 years in prison for protesting in Russia?

Just a decade in the UK.
10 years for protesting

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

Just a decade in the UK.

UK would be like baby jail compared to Russia, but I think we both made a good point in we could go across the world and see the same pattern in other countries, but you know those evil Nazis in Ukraine...

originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: vNex92

Constitutionally, citizens of the United States owe allegiance to at least two political entities. One is the United States of America, and the other is their state of legal residence. Only one person has ever been executed for treason against the federal government: William Bruce Mumford, who was convicted of treason and hanged in 1862 for tearing down a United States flag during the American Civil War. However, this was under martial law, not Article Three of the United States Constitution.[5]

Now I know there is a lot to digest with this quote from Wikipedia, and this is only for the US. However I imagine in times of martial law, if you criticized the government in any way as a citizen, there is a president for arrest and punishment. Not saying that I agree with it, however, he is a Ukrainian citizen and bound to their laws, which I will admit I am ignorant of. However if a country like the United States can do such a thing during martial law, I don't see why other countries wouldn't go this route as well.

What about that famous case where the mom and dad in the 1960s were executed for treason regarding the atomic bomb?

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: vNex92
A popular YouTuber and critic of President Zelensky was arrested in Spain at request Ukrainian government on charges of treason and is facing extradition, despite that he had publicly condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Isn't it 15 years in prison for protesting in Russia?

Just a decade in the UK.
10 years for protesting

Not quite. It's not a blanket 10 years.

Here, from your own source:


The bill also includes harsher punishments for damaging statues or memorials — making defacing a memorial punishable up to 10 years in prison, up from three years. This proposal appears to have been included after BLM protesters toppled into the river a statue of Edward Colston, a notorious slave trader, in Bristol last June.

“The statue was estimated to have a value of £3,750. As it stands, the courts cannot impose a prison term of more than three months where the value of damage caused is under £5,000,” a report in the legal magazine, the Justice Gap, explains.

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat

originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: vNex92

Constitutionally, citizens of the United States owe allegiance to at least two political entities. One is the United States of America, and the other is their state of legal residence. Only one person has ever been executed for treason against the federal government: William Bruce Mumford, who was convicted of treason and hanged in 1862 for tearing down a United States flag during the American Civil War. However, this was under martial law, not Article Three of the United States Constitution.[5]

Now I know there is a lot to digest with this quote from Wikipedia, and this is only for the US. However I imagine in times of martial law, if you criticized the government in any way as a citizen, there is a president for arrest and punishment. Not saying that I agree with it, however, he is a Ukrainian citizen and bound to their laws, which I will admit I am ignorant of. However if a country like the United States can do such a thing during martial law, I don't see why other countries wouldn't go this route as well.

What about that famous case where the mom and dad in the 1960s were executed for treason regarding the atomic bomb?

The russian spies?

Were they illegally executed on foreign soil?

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

The 1960s?

Relevance to today?

Zelensky and Ukraine are corrupt. Russia are power hungry and insane. None of the conflict has any implications on the average citizen of the world. It sickens me that the corrupt Biden administration is meddling in that war. Probably just to keep all the corruption from coming to light. America is headed for a tipping point. Personally I'd welcome a second civil war. We need a reset and not the one the WEF has in store either.

a reply to: PorteurDeMort

Apart from Oli and gas price hikes, World food shortages and a massive refugee crisis, Yeah it's all good....

originally posted by: PorteurDeMort
Zelensky and Ukraine are corrupt. Russia are power hungry and insane. None of the conflict has any implications on the average citizen of the world. It sickens me that the corrupt Biden administration is meddling in that war. Probably just to keep all the corruption from coming to light. America is headed for a tipping point. Personally I'd welcome a second civil war. We need a reset and not the one the WEF has in store either.

So you think the planet should just step aside and let russia destroy a non threatening country to steal more of it's territory?

That's exactly how hitler managed to start ww2.

originally posted by: vNex92
A popular YouTuber and critic of President Zelensky was arrested in Spain at request Ukrainian government on charges of treason and is facing extradition, despite that he had publicly condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Is this an example of how democracy should work? where you cant criticize your own country's president? whatever its on the war in Ukraine or on other issues?

The government quickly labels you with Treason charges.

The same Ukraine and Zelensky that is supposed to be fighting in the name of Freedom and Democracy.
If you are supposedly fighting for freedom they will label you with any claims that you are Pro Russian or Treason acts.


Zelensky Critic Arrested in Spain on Orders of Ukrainian Government

They claim that Shariy has been acting on behalf of “foreign” forces by infringing Ukraine’s national security via his media commentary on the war and engaging in “incitement of hatred.”

The Ukrainian is accusing anyone criticizing their actions acting on behalf of “foreign” forces.

This is despite that the blogger wasn't pro Russian to begin with.

Pro-Russian blogger accused of treason by Ukraine arrested in Spain

Wait for NWO, then all of us will be subjected to treason if we YouTube or tweet.