How is it that Trump Lost - But Has More Political Influence than President Biden.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Joe Biden was my only choice. You see, I can't vote for Trump.

So this is where we are.

If you run Trump again, me and many others WILL NOT vote for him, ever.

Biden isn't going to run again. Harris is a disaster. My guess, Republicans will run Trump if Trump chooses, and Dems will have a clean ticket.

If you run Trump again, he will lose again.

a reply to: carewemust

Are you one of those so called disenfranchised voters?

a reply to: TzarChasm

I get it.

a reply to: TzarChasm

But sarcasm is the antidote, not the disease. It repels stupidity that might otherwise inflame the senses and provoke a hostile reaction, more diplomatic than smacking the sense back into a dullard's cranium.

I go with the latter option .
More effective and longer lasting .
Not with physical violence , with information instead .

a reply to: Gothmog

That seems to be the general idea. Quantity over quality.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

If you run Trump again, he will lose again.

Unless the DNC chooses to run Hillary again.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

the fact you think it was an either or equation shows a remarkable lack of awareness and understanding of how things run.

As long as your candidate "won" huh, try expanding your understanding and maybe you will figure out why that way of thinking has landed us in the mess we have.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Joe Biden was my only choice. You see, I can't vote for Trump.

So this is where we are.

If you run Trump again, me and many others WILL NOT vote for him, ever.

Biden isn't going to run again. Harris is a disaster. My guess, Republicans will run Trump if Trump chooses, and Dems will have a clean ticket.

If you run Trump again, he will lose again.

a reply to: carewemust

The economy was booming under Trump , and is crumbling under biden.
Yet you would choose to vote for the idiot that hates our country? Either you are as thick as rocks or you are so insanely jealous of Trump and his successes/wealth , that you'd rather sink yourself further than admit who's the better candidate and vote for the better candidate.
I guess you're one of the many democrat lemmings who jump of the cliff after the first one , self-destructive and blind.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

Bernie Sanders said last week that he'll run in 2024, if on the slim chance Biden doesn't seek a second term.

nypost.com...

Bernie is the kind of Democrat I could vote for. He has integrity and really cares about the people of this nation, like Trump, but more on a grass-roots level. (Bernie knows what working people and retirees need.)

a reply to: carewemust

(Bernie knows what working people and retirees need.)

Free stuff?

Or are you just talking about health care?

Because Joe Biden should not be President, they cheated him in there. They could have cheated just about anyone
else in there, but for some reason they owed him a favor, or he's got SO MANY skeletons in his closet that he'll do whatever they say, or he owes the favor is probably it. But he's essentially there to AVOID PROSECUTION. You would think with everything they are probably holding over his head he would at least put some effort into it.

So that's why nobody want's the kiss of death endorsement from Joe Biden. ANYONE'S (except kamala of course) endorsement would be better than Joe Biden.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: MiddleInsite

Bernie Sanders said last week that he'll run in 2024, if on the slim chance Biden doesn't seek a second term.

nypost.com...

Bernie is the kind of Democrat I could vote for. He has integrity and really cares about the people of this nation, like Trump, but more on a grass-roots level. (Bernie knows what working people and retirees need.)

Third time's the charm, as they say.

originally posted by: bounder
Because Joe Biden should not be President, they cheated him in there. They could have cheated just about anyone
else in there, but for some reason they owed him a favor, or he's got SO MANY skeletons in his closet that he'll do whatever they say, or he owes the favor is probably it. But he's essentially there to AVOID PROSECUTION. You would think with everything they are probably holding over his head he would at least put some effort into it.

So that's why nobody want's the kiss of death endorsement from Joe Biden. ANYONE'S (except kamala of course) endorsement would be better than Joe Biden.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
As depressing as it is.

The only reason they didn't run Clinton again is because the people would have smelled the rat if they cheater her in the way they did Biden.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Ah, shucks.
I thought you wanted a rational discussion. With facts and stuff.

My bad.

Sometimes I want to chit-chat. But its rare. I start these threads to get info "out there" for the majority of people...people who don't post to ATS, and then move on to GETTR.com, and soon to TruthSocial.com.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Without precedent. Definitive.

A student of political history are you? Can you provide the second closest occurrence for reference?

Adams vs Jackson, 1828.

Thankyou for scratching Phage's itch.

a reply to: carewemust

Info.

As in "without precedent?"

That sort of "info?"

Info. With a prefix, perhaps?

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Joe Biden was my only choice. You see, I can't vote for Trump.

So this is where we are.

If you run Trump again, me and many others WILL NOT vote for him, ever.

Biden isn't going to run again. Harris is a disaster. My guess, Republicans will run Trump if Trump chooses, and Dems will have a clean ticket.

If you run Trump again, he will lose again.

a reply to: carewemust

That's the exact attitude that got Trump elected "anybody but Hillary"

But keep voting based solely on that I'm shure you will get exactly the leader you deserve every time

biden has no influence because he is meaningless in every sense of the word.

I am truly saddened by the number of people who will vote for whomever is running against Trump, regardless of who it is or how incredibly poor a candidate they truly are.

The state of this nation as we speak is the direct result of those people who decided it is better to vote for whomever is running against Trump, just because its not Trump. If the people left behind in Afghanistan, the gas prices, the food shortages, and everything else on the list we all deal with every day, is what you want for this country then continue to use the same criteria for deciding who to vote for. You are the people responsible for this laundry list of disasters we are dealing with. You may as well double down and do it all again. There are still a few states that may pull through it you don't...

a reply to: Vroomfondel

The state of this nation as we speak is the direct result of those people who decided it is better to vote for whomever is running against Trump, just because its not Trump.

So, that means that Trump was elected because it was better to not vote for Clinton.

Makes sense.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: MiddleInsite

the fact you think it was an either or equation shows a remarkable lack of awareness and understanding of how things run.

As long as your candidate "won" huh, try expanding your understanding and maybe you will figure out why that way of thinking has landed us in the mess we have.

Like his Anti-Trump colleagues, MiddleInSite is ignoring the obvious. Joe Biden doesn't command much respect, and is not sought after for endorsements, because, as he himself admitted in October 2020, the "largest ever" FRAUD ORGANIZATION would deliver him into the Oval Office.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

(Bernie knows what working people and retirees need.)

Free stuff?

Or are you just talking about health care?

Bernie wants all healthcare coverage to include full DENTAL coverage. With America aging, that's very important.